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Atheism is Witchcraft

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  Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
    Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 14:02 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-11 16:16 -0600
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Normal Human <NH@....> - 2016-09-12 08:01 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 15:24 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-11 16:28 -0600
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 16:49 -0700
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-12 00:06 +0000
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:26 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-16 18:57 -0500
              Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-16 22:06 -0600
                "Wisely Non-Theist" "Billy_Ray_Ferrell_USA-VP_2016" <billyrferrell@minpin.mshome.net> - 2016-09-17 00:32 -0500
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:27 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:34 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:07 -0700
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:21 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:42 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 10:21 -0700
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 14:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 12:06 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 09:10 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-13 17:21 -0600
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:59 -0400
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 03:15 +0200
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 20:33 -0500
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:09 -0400
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:55 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 20:47 +1000
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-14 01:16 +0000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:01 -0400
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 21:12 -0500
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 09:32 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 17:38 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:32 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 23:15 -0600
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:36 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:52 +0200
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 18:01 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:50 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 22:48 +0200
                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-15 15:02 -0600
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:23 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-16 02:58 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:16 +0200
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-16 01:15 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 23:41 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-18 13:26 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-18 21:01 -0600
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:49 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 17:31 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:16 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 21:38 -0700
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-19 23:37 -0600
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 23:58 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:36 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 09:59 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:11 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 22:28 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:34 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 18:38 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:14 -0400
                                            Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-20 13:46 -0600
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 20:46 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 22:52 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 17:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 17:15 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 21:57 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 04:23 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:06 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:11 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 21:00 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 01:56 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:30 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:10 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:14 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 16:25 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 16:44 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 19:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:50 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:24 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:14 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 15:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-30 06:33 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-29 23:27 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:59 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 10:10 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 10:42 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:54 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 02:06 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 14:07 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 23:11 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-01 08:52 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-01 05:00 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 07:39 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 02:24 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 11:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 09:01 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 18:02 +0200
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 11:02 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:27 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 17:26 +0000
                                    Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 11:48 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 12:54 -0500
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 12:47 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 20:50 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:31 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:41 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:36 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:00 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:25 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:32 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 22:27 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-18 06:35 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-18 07:49 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-18 06:35 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:46 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:53 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:15 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:43 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 01:02 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:21 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 20:04 +0000
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 13:09 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:50 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 20:44 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 17:49 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 02:49 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:47 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 05:57 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:12 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:22 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 19:00 +0200
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 03:58 -0400

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#597081

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-15 22:48 +0200
Message-ID<e40fpdFqrs6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#597029
Am 15.09.2016 11:50, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:

>> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not
>> necessarily contain material objects.
>>
>> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
>>
>> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact
>> commercial, while a church is not.
>>
>> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

Most people overestimate the importance of money.

A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial 
interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover 
philosophical questions, ethics and moral.

People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above 
the usual life.

Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.

And most churches are actually poor.

But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic 
Church.

But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn 
money.


TH

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#597088 — Re: Theism is Witchcraft

FromVirgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com>
Date2016-09-15 15:02 -0600
SubjectRe: Theism is Witchcraft
Message-ID<VIRGIL-E653F1.15022915092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#597081
Atheism does not rely on magic!
-- 
Virgil
"Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)

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#597111

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-15 19:23 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-4373C4.19230215092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#597081
In article <e40fpdFqrs6U1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 15.09.2016 11:50, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> 
> >> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not
> >> necessarily contain material objects.
> >>
> >> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
> >>
> >> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact
> >> commercial, while a church is not.
> >>
> >> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
> >
> > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> 
> Most people overestimate the importance of money.
> 
> A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial 
> interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover 
> philosophical questions, ethics and moral.
> 
> People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above 
> the usual life.
> 
> Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.
> 
> And most churches are actually poor.
> 
> But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic 
> Church.
> 
> But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn 
> money.

Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.

Explain Pat Robertson telling elderly people who can barely pay the bill 
to keep the lights on, who might have to choose between food and their 
medications, that they should continue sending money to him.

Religion is ALL about the money.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#597117

FromMelzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-09-16 02:58 +0000
Message-ID<nrfn5a$iil$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#597111
On 2016-09-16, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> Religion is ALL about the money.
>
Selling smoke for money ;p

-- 
press any key to continue or any other to quit

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#597128

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-16 08:16 +0200
Message-ID<e41h1uF3bqbU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#597111
Am 16.09.2016 04:23, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:

>>>> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
>>>
>>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>
>> Most people overestimate the importance of money.
>>
>> A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial
>> interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover
>> philosophical questions, ethics and moral.
>>
>> People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above
>> the usual life.
>>
>> Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.
>>
>> And most churches are actually poor.
>>
>> But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic
>> Church.
>>
>> But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn
>> money.
>
> Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.

I am German and 'Priester' (priests) of 'EKD' (Evangelische Kirche 
Deutschlands ~ evangelical church of Germany) do not own large mansions.

Also the churches are not that large, even if some buildings are huge.

EKD is a certain form of protestantism, which is typical for Germany.

It is very remote to the Church of England for instance, even if they 
are also Protestants.



> Explain Pat Robertson telling elderly people who can barely pay the bill
> to keep the lights on, who might have to choose between food and their
> medications, that they should continue sending money to him.

The American forms of protestantism are almost unknown in Germany, 
similar the semi-commercial churches.

> Religion is ALL about the money.
>

Business is about money, but churches are not a business.


TH

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#597135

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-16 01:15 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-666C24.01153916092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#597128
In article <e41h1uF3bqbU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 16.09.2016 04:23, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> 
> >>>> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
> >>>
> >>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>>
> >>
> >> Most people overestimate the importance of money.
> >>
> >> A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial
> >> interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover
> >> philosophical questions, ethics and moral.
> >>
> >> People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above
> >> the usual life.
> >>
> >> Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.
> >>
> >> And most churches are actually poor.
> >>
> >> But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic
> >> Church.
> >>
> >> But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn
> >> money.
> >
> > Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.
> 
> I am German and 'Priester' (priests) of 'EKD' (Evangelische Kirche 
> Deutschlands ~ evangelical church of Germany) do not own large mansions.
> 
> Also the churches are not that large, even if some buildings are huge.
> 
> EKD is a certain form of protestantism, which is typical for Germany.
> 
> It is very remote to the Church of England for instance, even if they 
> are also Protestants.
> 
> 
> 
> > Explain Pat Robertson telling elderly people who can barely pay the bill
> > to keep the lights on, who might have to choose between food and their
> > medications, that they should continue sending money to him.
> 
> The American forms of protestantism are almost unknown in Germany, 
> similar the semi-commercial churches.

Lucky you.


> > Religion is ALL about the money.
> >
> 
> Business is about money, but churches are not a business.

They are in the US.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#597131

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-15 23:41 -0700
Message-ID<57DB9437.2271@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#597111
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> 
> In article <e40fpdFqrs6U1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> 
> > Am 15.09.2016 11:50, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> >
> > >> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not
> > >> necessarily contain material objects.
> > >>
> > >> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
> > >>
> > >> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact
> > >> commercial, while a church is not.
> > >>
> > >> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
> > >
> > > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> >
> > Most people overestimate the importance of money.
> >
> > A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial
> > interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover
> > philosophical questions, ethics and moral.
> >
> > People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above
> > the usual life.
> >
> > Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.
> >
> > And most churches are actually poor.
> >
> > But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic
> > Church.
> >
> > But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn
> > money.
> 
> Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.


A church is a Hospitol for sinnners...as a hospitol is a place for
injured bodies, the church is
for injured souls.


You cannot go to your doctor and tell him you murdered somebody...your
soul hurts. The Doctor would
probably give wrong advise like turn yourself to the police.

You go to the doctors of the soul...

shouldn't both doctors get paid for their services???

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#597430

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-18 13:26 -0700
Message-ID<57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#597131
Yous have to ask yourself a question..

How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?


I
burn
witches.

Burn Witch, Burn.

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#597494

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-09-18 21:01 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-08D76A.21014618092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#597430
In article <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Yous have to ask yourself a question..
> 
> How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
> 
> 
> I
> burn
> witches.

In the USA and most OTHER civilized nations, 
it is a crime to burn witches to death, 
and in some places even a capital crime!

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#597507

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-19 00:49 -0400
Message-ID<4hrutbhrpohk3dq06di19nkl6lalnq7e1a@4ax.com>
In reply to#597430
On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Yous have to ask yourself a question..
>
>How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
>
>
>I
>burn
>witches.
>
>Burn Witch, Burn.

Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#597636

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-19 17:31 -0700
Message-ID<57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#597507
Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
> >
> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
> >
> >
> >I
> >burn
> >witches.
> >
> >Burn Witch, Burn.
> 
> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?



Well, I think people should be aware that
the newsgroup alt.atheism is filled with...witches.



Burn Witch Burn.



Are you a witch?

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#597650

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-19 23:16 -0400
Message-ID<1fa1ub1i9n6e5ivc0afeamf22leaokj7u1@4ax.com>
In reply to#597636
On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:31:04 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
>> >
>> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
>> >
>> >
>> >I
>> >burn
>> >witches.
>> >
>> >Burn Witch, Burn.
>> 
>> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?
>
>
>
>Well, I think people should be aware that
>the newsgroup alt.atheism is filled with...witches.

Not an answer.

>
>
>
>Burn Witch Burn.

Why?

>
>
>
>Are you a witch?

Not yet.  Who knows about tomorrow?

Why should you care?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#597654

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-19 21:38 -0700
Message-ID<57E0BD4D.7356@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#597650
Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:31:04 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Attila < wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
> >> >
> >> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I
> >> >burn
> >> >witches.
> >> >
> >> >Burn Witch, Burn.
> >>
> >> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?
> >
> >
> >
> >Well, I think people should be aware that
> >the newsgroup alt.atheism is filled with...witches.
> 
> Not an answer.
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >Burn Witch Burn.
> 
> Why?
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >Are you a witch?
> 
> Not yet.  Who knows about tomorrow?
> 
> Why should you care?


i burn witches.

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#597656 — Re: Theism is Witchcraft

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-09-19 23:37 -0600
SubjectRe: Theism is Witchcraft
Message-ID<aaa-F9118C.23374819092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#597654
Atheism is a-witchery too!

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#597662

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-19 23:58 -0700
Message-ID<57E0DE2D.264A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#597654
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Attila < wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:31:04 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > <57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Attila < wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
> > >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > >> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
> > >> >
> > >> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >I
> > >> >burn
> > >> >witches.
> > >> >
> > >> >Burn Witch, Burn.
> > >>
> > >> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Well, I think people should be aware that
> > >the newsgroup alt.atheism is filled with...witches.
> >
> > Not an answer.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Burn Witch Burn.
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Are you a witch?
> >
> > Not yet.  Who knows about tomorrow?
> >
> > Why should you care?
> 
> i burn witches.


i'm on a witchhunt...
now how many of yous have a black cat at home????

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#597690

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-20 10:36 -0400
Message-ID<58i2ub9432ku0li2vvav0elacn3um6piuc@4ax.com>
In reply to#597662
On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 23:58:53 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<57E0DE2D.264A@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> Attila < wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:31:04 -0700, The Starmaker
>> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> > <57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Attila < wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
>> > >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> > >> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
>> > >> >
>> > >> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >I
>> > >> >burn
>> > >> >witches.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Burn Witch, Burn.
>> > >>
>> > >> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Well, I think people should be aware that
>> > >the newsgroup alt.atheism is filled with...witches.
>> >
>> > Not an answer.
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Burn Witch Burn.
>> >
>> > Why?
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Are you a witch?
>> >
>> > Not yet.  Who knows about tomorrow?
>> >
>> > Why should you care?
>> 
>> i burn witches.
>
>
>i'm on a witchhunt...
>now how many of yous have a black cat at home????

You are responding to your own post, but I am curious.

Do all black cats belong to witches?  Do all witches have black cats?
Must the cat be all black?   Who inspects the cat to see if it
qualifies?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#597705

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-20 09:59 -0700
Message-ID<57E16AFA.1077@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#597690
Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 23:58:53 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <57E0DE2D.264A@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> Attila < wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:31:04 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> > <57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Attila < wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> > >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> > >> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >I
> >> > >> >burn
> >> > >> >witches.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >Burn Witch, Burn.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Well, I think people should be aware that
> >> > >the newsgroup alt.atheism is filled with...witches.
> >> >
> >> > Not an answer.
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Burn Witch Burn.
> >> >
> >> > Why?
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Are you a witch?
> >> >
> >> > Not yet.  Who knows about tomorrow?
> >> >
> >> > Why should you care?
> >>
> >> i burn witches.
> >
> >
> >i'm on a witchhunt...
> >now how many of yous have a black cat at home????
> 
> You are responding to your own post, but I am curious.
> 
> Do all black cats belong to witches?  Do all witches have black cats?
> Must the cat be all black?   Who inspects the cat to see if it
> qualifies?
> 

The more black cat ownership in the newsgroup alt.atheism, the more
witches you'll find there.

That, answers all your questions.

Follow the black cats..



Burn Witch Burn

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#597717

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-20 15:11 -0400
Message-ID<8c23ub1kplqfs7fav73cvbkiovd0r3grq9@4ax.com>
In reply to#597705
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:59:38 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<57E16AFA.1077@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 23:58:53 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <57E0DE2D.264A@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Attila < wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:31:04 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> >> > <57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >Attila < wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> > >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> >> > >> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >I
>> >> > >> >burn
>> >> > >> >witches.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >Burn Witch, Burn.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Well, I think people should be aware that
>> >> > >the newsgroup alt.atheism is filled with...witches.
>> >> >
>> >> > Not an answer.
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Burn Witch Burn.
>> >> >
>> >> > Why?
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Are you a witch?
>> >> >
>> >> > Not yet.  Who knows about tomorrow?
>> >> >
>> >> > Why should you care?
>> >>
>> >> i burn witches.
>> >
>> >
>> >i'm on a witchhunt...
>> >now how many of yous have a black cat at home????
>> 
>> You are responding to your own post, but I am curious.
>> 
>> Do all black cats belong to witches?  Do all witches have black cats?
>> Must the cat be all black?   Who inspects the cat to see if it
>> qualifies?
>> 
>
>The more black cat ownership in the newsgroup alt.atheism, the more
>witches you'll find there.
>
>That, answers all your questions.

Actually it answers none of them.

>
>Follow the black cats..

No, I am not that interested.

>
>
>
>Burn Witch Burn

Where?  When?  Why?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#597804

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-20 22:28 -0700
Message-ID<57E21A89.885@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#597705
hhyapster@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 12:58:57 AM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Attila < wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 23:58:53 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > > <57E0DE2D.264A@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Attila < wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:31:04 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > >> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > > >> > <57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >Attila < wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > >> > >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > > >> > >> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> >I
> > > >> > >> >burn
> > > >> > >> >witches.
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> >Burn Witch, Burn.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >Well, I think people should be aware that
> > > >> > >the newsgroup alt.atheism is filled with...witches.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Not an answer.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >Burn Witch Burn.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Why?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >Are you a witch?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Not yet.  Who knows about tomorrow?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Why should you care?
> > > >>
> > > >> i burn witches.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >i'm on a witchhunt...
> > > >now how many of yous have a black cat at home????
> > >
> > > You are responding to your own post, but I am curious.
> > >
> > > Do all black cats belong to witches?  Do all witches have black cats?
> > > Must the cat be all black?   Who inspects the cat to see if it
> > > qualifies?
> > >
> >
> > The more black cat ownership in the newsgroup alt.atheism, the more
> > witches you'll find there.
> 
> What happens if me being a witch who owns a white cat?


It's probably a Black cat with too much White hair...

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#597689

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-20 10:34 -0400
Message-ID<96i2ub1frq7rle15vt8j75b1nhfe3h4f2o@4ax.com>
In reply to#597654
On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 21:38:37 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<57E0BD4D.7356@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:31:04 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Attila < wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> >> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
>> >> >
>> >> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I
>> >> >burn
>> >> >witches.
>> >> >
>> >> >Burn Witch, Burn.
>> >>
>> >> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Well, I think people should be aware that
>> >the newsgroup alt.atheism is filled with...witches.
>> 
>> Not an answer.
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Burn Witch Burn.
>> 
>> Why?
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Are you a witch?
>> 
>> Not yet.  Who knows about tomorrow?
>> 
>> Why should you care?
>
>
>i burn witches.

Burned any lately?  How do you identify them?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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