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Atheism is Witchcraft

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First post2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
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  Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
    Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 14:02 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-11 16:16 -0600
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Normal Human <NH@....> - 2016-09-12 08:01 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 15:24 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-11 16:28 -0600
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 16:49 -0700
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-12 00:06 +0000
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:26 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-16 18:57 -0500
              Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-16 22:06 -0600
                "Wisely Non-Theist" "Billy_Ray_Ferrell_USA-VP_2016" <billyrferrell@minpin.mshome.net> - 2016-09-17 00:32 -0500
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:27 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:34 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:07 -0700
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:21 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:42 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 10:21 -0700
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 14:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 12:06 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 09:10 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-13 17:21 -0600
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:59 -0400
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 03:15 +0200
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 20:33 -0500
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:09 -0400
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:55 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 20:47 +1000
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-14 01:16 +0000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:01 -0400
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 21:12 -0500
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 09:32 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 17:38 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:32 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 23:15 -0600
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:36 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:52 +0200
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 18:01 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:50 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 22:48 +0200
                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-15 15:02 -0600
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:23 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-16 02:58 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:16 +0200
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-16 01:15 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 23:41 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-18 13:26 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-18 21:01 -0600
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:49 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 17:31 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:16 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 21:38 -0700
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-19 23:37 -0600
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 23:58 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:36 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 09:59 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:11 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 22:28 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:34 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 18:38 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:14 -0400
                                            Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-20 13:46 -0600
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 20:46 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 22:52 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 17:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 17:15 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 21:57 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 04:23 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:06 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:11 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 21:00 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 01:56 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:30 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:10 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:14 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 16:25 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 16:44 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 19:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:50 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:24 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:14 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 15:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-30 06:33 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-29 23:27 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:59 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 10:10 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 10:42 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:54 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 02:06 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 14:07 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 23:11 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-01 08:52 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-01 05:00 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 07:39 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 02:24 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 11:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 09:01 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 18:02 +0200
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 11:02 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:27 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 17:26 +0000
                                    Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 11:48 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 12:54 -0500
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 12:47 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 20:50 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:31 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:41 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:36 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:00 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:25 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:32 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 22:27 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-18 06:35 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-18 07:49 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-18 06:35 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:46 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:53 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:15 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:43 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 01:02 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:21 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 20:04 +0000
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 13:09 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:50 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 20:44 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 17:49 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 02:49 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:47 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 05:57 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:12 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:22 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 19:00 +0200
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 03:58 -0400

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#597712

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-09-20 18:38 +0000
Message-ID<nrrvmt$5as$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#597689
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:34:11 -0400, Attila < wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 21:38:37 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <57E0BD4D.7356@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
>>Attila < wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:31:04 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >Attila < wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> >> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
>>> >> >
>>> >> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >I burn witches.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Burn Witch, Burn.
>>> >>
>>> >> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?
>>> >
>>> >Well, I think people should be aware that the newsgroup alt.atheism
>>> >is filled with...witches.
>>> 
>>> Not an answer.
>>> 
>>> >Burn Witch Burn.
>>> 
>>> Why?
>>> 
>>> >Are you a witch?
>>> 
>>> Not yet.  Who knows about tomorrow?
>>> 
>>> Why should you care?
>>
>>i burn witches.
> 
> Burned any lately?  How do you identify them?

They weigh less than a duck.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#597720

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-20 15:14 -0400
Message-ID<3g23ubtg8mc3vpudlfd3fp69j6mgc2rata@4ax.com>
In reply to#597712
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:38:21 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> in
alt.atheism with message-id <nrrvmt$5as$1@gioia.aioe.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:34:11 -0400, Attila < wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 21:38:37 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <57E0BD4D.7356@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>Attila < wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:31:04 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>> <57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> >Attila < wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>> >> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >I burn witches.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Burn Witch, Burn.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?
>>>> >
>>>> >Well, I think people should be aware that the newsgroup alt.atheism
>>>> >is filled with...witches.
>>>> 
>>>> Not an answer.
>>>> 
>>>> >Burn Witch Burn.
>>>> 
>>>> Why?
>>>> 
>>>> >Are you a witch?
>>>> 
>>>> Not yet.  Who knows about tomorrow?
>>>> 
>>>> Why should you care?
>>>
>>>i burn witches.
>> 
>> Burned any lately?  How do you identify them?
>
>They weigh less than a duck.

A large duck or a small duck?  They come in different breeds and sizes
you know.  Perhaps you are mis-identifying a sparrow.  Or a bat.  Or a
hamster.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#597732 — Re: Theism is Witchcraft

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-09-20 13:46 -0600
SubjectRe: Theism is Witchcraft
Message-ID<aaa-0955CC.13461420092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#597720
Atheists don't need magic.

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#597761

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-09-20 20:46 +0000
Message-ID<nrs76u$gfc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#597720
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 15:14:52 -0400, Attila < wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:38:21 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <nrrvmt$5as$1@gioia.aioe.org> wrote:
> 
>>On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:34:11 -0400, Attila < wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 21:38:37 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <57E0BD4D.7356@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>Attila < wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:31:04 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> <57E08348.D88@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> >Attila < wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:26:30 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> >> <57DEF876.1339@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >Yous have to ask yourself a question..
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >How many witches are there in the newsgroup, alt.atheism?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >I burn witches.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >Burn Witch, Burn.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Why are you hung up on witches?  Did they ever bother you?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Well, I think people should be aware that the newsgroup alt.atheism
>>>>> >is filled with...witches.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not an answer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> >Burn Witch Burn.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why?
>>>>> 
>>>>> >Are you a witch?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not yet.  Who knows about tomorrow?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why should you care?
>>>>
>>>>i burn witches.
>>> 
>>> Burned any lately?  How do you identify them?
>>
>>They weigh less than a duck.
> 
> A large duck or a small duck?  They come in different breeds and sizes
> you know.  Perhaps you are mis-identifying a sparrow.  Or a bat.  Or a
> hamster.

Ask 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail'.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#597125

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-15 22:52 -0700
Message-ID<57DB88A6.575D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#597081
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 15.09.2016 11:50, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> 
> >> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not
> >> necessarily contain material objects.
> >>
> >> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
> >>
> >> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact
> >> commercial, while a church is not.
> >>
> >> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
> >
> > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> 
> Most people overestimate the importance of money.
> 
> A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial
> interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover
> philosophical questions, ethics and moral.
> 
> People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above
> the usual life.
> 
> Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.
> 
> And most churches are actually poor.
> 
> But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic
> Church.
> 
> But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn
> money.
> 
> TH


a church is a hospitol for sinners...if you murder someone, and it
bothers you...you don't want to be stupid enought to confess to
the police...you confess to the church. It's a hospitol for...sinners.

Then you're free to murder someone else.

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#597091

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-15 17:45 -0400
Message-ID<57db1698$0$1220$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#596897
On 9/13/2016 10:12 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 22:01:06 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>
>> On 9/13/2016 9:16 PM, Smiler wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:59:14 -0400, benj wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/13/2016 7:10 PM, HGW wrote:
>>>>> On 12/09/16 05:43, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.
>>>>>
>>>>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either
>>>>> by misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence
>>>>> that it will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will
>>>>> one day be given a second chance at life.
>>>>
>>>> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst
>>>
>>> As rare as hirsute bald men.
>>>
>>> <snip even more lies>
>>>
>> Obviously we are in the presence of an atheist of great faith!
>
> Obviously we are in the presence of a deliberately and arrogantly
> nasty, lying theist.
>
Actually, since this is the INTERNET, you haven't a clue what you are in 
the presence of, but that doesn't stop your fantasy life.

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#597095

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-09-15 17:15 -0500
Message-ID<3a7mtbtjm0h3s332i0d8qbj22m55h1sk5i@4ax.com>
In reply to#597091
On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 17:45:47 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:

>On 9/13/2016 10:12 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 22:01:06 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/13/2016 9:16 PM, Smiler wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:59:14 -0400, benj wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/13/2016 7:10 PM, HGW wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/09/16 05:43, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either
>>>>>> by misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence
>>>>>> that it will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will
>>>>>> one day be given a second chance at life.
>>>>>
>>>>> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst
>>>>
>>>> As rare as hirsute bald men.
>>>>
>>>> <snip even more lies>
>>>>
>>> Obviously we are in the presence of an atheist of great faith!
>>
>> Obviously we are in the presence of a deliberately and arrogantly
>> nasty, lying theist.
>>
>Actually, since this is the INTERNET, you haven't a clue what you are in 
>the presence of, but that doesn't stop your fantasy life.

I'm "in the presence" of somebody who lies about atheists and atheism,
to atheists in the atheist newsgroup.

Stop pretending.

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#597113

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-15 21:57 -0400
Message-ID<57db51af$0$31315$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#597095
On 9/15/2016 6:15 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 17:45:47 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>
>> On 9/13/2016 10:12 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 22:01:06 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/13/2016 9:16 PM, Smiler wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:59:14 -0400, benj wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/13/2016 7:10 PM, HGW wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/09/16 05:43, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> Bottom line is...Atheism is Witchcraft.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either
>>>>>>> by misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence
>>>>>>> that it will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it will
>>>>>>> one day be given a second chance at life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst
>>>>>
>>>>> As rare as hirsute bald men.
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip even more lies>
>>>>>
>>>> Obviously we are in the presence of an atheist of great faith!
>>>
>>> Obviously we are in the presence of a deliberately and arrogantly
>>> nasty, lying theist.
>>>
>> Actually, since this is the INTERNET, you haven't a clue what you are in
>> the presence of, but that doesn't stop your fantasy life.
>
> I'm "in the presence" of somebody who lies about atheists and atheism,
> to atheists in the atheist newsgroup.
>
> Stop pretending.
>
Atheists believe in lies. It's an essential part of evolootion and 
"natural selection". Animals use fake behavior all the time to fool 
predators. And thus, lies are equally valid for man as you well know and 
practice all the time.

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#597123

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-09-16 04:23 +0000
Message-ID<4n8sad-t5q.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#597113
In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:

<snip>

> Atheists believe in lies. It's an essential part of evolootion and 
> "natural selection". Animals use fake behavior all the time to fool 
> predators. And thus, lies are equally valid for man as you well know and 
> practice all the time.

Kook babble; case in point "evolootion".

Atheism has nothing to do with "evolootion" (sic), natural selection,
animals, predators or lies.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#597220

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-16 17:06 -0400
Message-ID<57dc5eee$0$31213$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#597123
On 9/16/2016 12:23 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Atheists believe in lies. It's an essential part of evolootion and
>> "natural selection". Animals use fake behavior all the time to fool
>> predators. And thus, lies are equally valid for man as you well know and
>> practice all the time.
>
> Kook babble; case in point "evolootion".
>
> Atheism has nothing to do with "evolootion" (sic), natural selection,
> animals, predators or lies.
>

You heard it here first, folks. PreacherMan Chimp says that athesism has 
nothing to do with evolootion! (He's probably a practicing atheist too) 
Gosh, what does he believe? Does he believe Un-God created the universe? 
This is how confused and senile he is. He needs to take Imperial 
Thinking lessons from Herb.

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#597221

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-09-16 16:11 -0500
Message-ID<ntnotbtrsienu6daraa5njfsqomp8dmbb8@4ax.com>
In reply to#597220
On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:06:40 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:

>On 9/16/2016 12:23 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Atheists believe in lies. It's an essential part of evolootion and
>>> "natural selection". Animals use fake behavior all the time to fool
>>> predators. And thus, lies are equally valid for man as you well know and
>>> practice all the time.
>>
>> Kook babble; case in point "evolootion".
>>
>> Atheism has nothing to do with "evolootion" (sic), natural selection,
>> animals, predators or lies.
>>
>
>You heard it here first, folks. PreacherMan Chimp says that athesism has 
>nothing to do with evolootion! (He's probably a practicing atheist too) 
>Gosh, what does he believe? Does he believe Un-God created the universe? 
>This is how confused and senile he is. He needs to take Imperial 
>Thinking lessons from Herb.

Get an education and grow  up.

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#597245

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
Message-ID<r46uad-5b3.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#597221
In sci.physics Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:06:40 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> 
>>On 9/16/2016 12:23 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Atheists believe in lies. It's an essential part of evolootion and
>>>> "natural selection". Animals use fake behavior all the time to fool
>>>> predators. And thus, lies are equally valid for man as you well know and
>>>> practice all the time.
>>>
>>> Kook babble; case in point "evolootion".
>>>
>>> Atheism has nothing to do with "evolootion" (sic), natural selection,
>>> animals, predators or lies.
>>>
>>
>>You heard it here first, folks. PreacherMan Chimp says that athesism has 
>>nothing to do with evolootion! (He's probably a practicing atheist too) 
>>Gosh, what does he believe? Does he believe Un-God created the universe? 
>>This is how confused and senile he is. He needs to take Imperial 
>>Thinking lessons from Herb.
> 
> Get an education and grow  up.

It seems it is more like he is regressing into childhood.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#597265

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2016-09-16 21:00 -0400
Message-ID<57dc95d2$0$43888$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#597245
On 9/16/2016 5:51 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:06:40 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/16/2016 12:23 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> Atheists believe in lies. It's an essential part of evolootion and
>>>>> "natural selection". Animals use fake behavior all the time to fool
>>>>> predators. And thus, lies are equally valid for man as you well know and
>>>>> practice all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Kook babble; case in point "evolootion".
>>>>
>>>> Atheism has nothing to do with "evolootion" (sic), natural selection,
>>>> animals, predators or lies.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You heard it here first, folks. PreacherMan Chimp says that athesism has
>>> nothing to do with evolootion! (He's probably a practicing atheist too)
>>> Gosh, what does he believe? Does he believe Un-God created the universe?
>>> This is how confused and senile he is. He needs to take Imperial
>>> Thinking lessons from Herb.
>>
>> Get an education and grow  up.
>
> It seems it is more like he is regressing into childhood.
>
Look folks, it's Chimp in attack mode just after he accused me of going 
that way. Why is it that kooks always accuse everyone else of doing what 
they always do?

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#597270

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-09-17 01:56 +0000
Message-ID<tekuad-kq4.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#597265
In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 9/16/2016 5:51 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:06:40 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/16/2016 12:23 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheists believe in lies. It's an essential part of evolootion and
>>>>>> "natural selection". Animals use fake behavior all the time to fool
>>>>>> predators. And thus, lies are equally valid for man as you well know and
>>>>>> practice all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kook babble; case in point "evolootion".
>>>>>
>>>>> Atheism has nothing to do with "evolootion" (sic), natural selection,
>>>>> animals, predators or lies.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You heard it here first, folks. PreacherMan Chimp says that athesism has
>>>> nothing to do with evolootion! (He's probably a practicing atheist too)
>>>> Gosh, what does he believe? Does he believe Un-God created the universe?
>>>> This is how confused and senile he is. He needs to take Imperial
>>>> Thinking lessons from Herb.
>>>
>>> Get an education and grow  up.
>>
>> It seems it is more like he is regressing into childhood.
>>
> Look folks, it's Chimp in attack mode just after he accused me of going 
> that way. Why is it that kooks always accuse everyone else of doing what 
> they always do?

I am not the one confusing athesism with four or five entirely different
things.

Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
supernatural beings.

That's it and all there is to it; no supernatural beings.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#597282

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-17 08:30 +0200
Message-ID<e44684FmjdcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#597270
Am 17.09.2016 03:56, schrieb jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com:

>> Look folks, it's Chimp in attack mode just after he accused me of going
>> that way. Why is it that kooks always accuse everyone else of doing what
>> they always do?
>
> I am not the one confusing athesism with four or five entirely different
> things.
>
> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
> supernatural beings.

Darwin was an evil British idiot.

He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him 
personally to various 'bad guys'.

But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For 
instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.

Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a 
variety of species.

He also miscalculated the age of the Earth by a factor of 10,000 and 
that is extremely large.

But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals, 
since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.

There it gets criminal, since the Eugenics movement was responsible for 
real crimes, which they pretended to be justified by  the 'purification 
of the races'.


TH


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#597291

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-17 07:10 -0400
Message-ID<mu8qtbhpnc2cnghqafb008k9ek1hvueq7s@4ax.com>
In reply to#597282
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 08:30:25 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
alt.atheism with message-id <e44684FmjdcU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:

>Am 17.09.2016 03:56, schrieb jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com:
>
>>> Look folks, it's Chimp in attack mode just after he accused me of going
>>> that way. Why is it that kooks always accuse everyone else of doing what
>>> they always do?
>>
>> I am not the one confusing athesism with four or five entirely different
>> things.
>>
>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
>> supernatural beings.
>
>Darwin was an evil British idiot.

At least you got the British part right.

>
>He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him 
>personally to various 'bad guys'.

Nonsense.

>
>But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For 
>instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.
>
>Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a 
>variety of species.

So what?  very new effort is usually modified over time as the process
is better understood and more data is gathered. 

>
>He also miscalculated the age of the Earth by a factor of 10,000 and 
>that is extremely large.

Not nearly as large as many others who attempted the same thing.

>
>But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals, 
>since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.

His work was scientific, not political.

>
>There it gets criminal, since the Eugenics movement was responsible for 
>real crimes, which they pretended to be justified by  the 'purification 
>of the races'.
>

He made no such pronouncements.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#597292

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-17 04:14 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-9DC404.04143017092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#597282
In article <e44684FmjdcU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 17.09.2016 03:56, schrieb jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com:
> 
> >> Look folks, it's Chimp in attack mode just after he accused me of going
> >> that way. Why is it that kooks always accuse everyone else of doing what
> >> they always do?
> >
> > I am not the one confusing athesism with four or five entirely different
> > things.
> >
> > Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
> > predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
> > responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
> > supernatural beings.
> 
> Darwin was an evil British idiot.

How was he "evil"?


> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him 
> personally to various 'bad guys'.

What is this line? 

You do know that a person is not responsible for evil people 
misinterpreting and corrupting his work?

> But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For 
> instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.

So what? We've moved 150 years past what Darwin could learn with the 
technology of his day. His major value nowadays is as the urDaddy of the 
science of evolution.


> Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a 
> variety of species.

Yeah, so what?

> He also miscalculated the age of the Earth by a factor of 10,000 and 
> that is extremely large.

So fucking what?


> But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals, 
> since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.

What were Darwin's "political goals"? And what does Darwin have to do 
with a vile practice that was invented years after he died?


> There it gets criminal, since the Eugenics movement was responsible for 
> real crimes, which they pretended to be justified by  the 'purification 
> of the races'.

Which had absolutely nothing to do with Darwin.


You DO realize, don't you, that by this same logic, gun manufacturers 
are responsible for every crime committed by anyone with one of their 
guns.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#597296

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-17 16:25 +0200
Message-ID<e45225Ft4sjU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#597292
Am 17.09.2016 13:14, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:

>>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
>>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
>>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
>>> supernatural beings.
>>
>> Darwin was an evil British idiot.
>
> How was he "evil"?
>
>
>> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him
>> personally to various 'bad guys'.
>
> What is this line?

There was a 'Thomas Huxley', who was called 'Darwin's bulldog'.

He was member of the so called 'X-Club', which had friendly relations to 
Count Arthur de Gobineau.

 From this guy stems the idea of the 'Aryan race'. He was quite 
influential on other Nazi-theoreticians, like e.g. Houston Steward 
Chamberlain.

Chamberlain was the son in law of Richard Wagner. He wrote a lot of 
racist Nazi-pamphlet, to which a Lord Redescale wrote the forwards.

This guy was the owner of a gold-mine in the Canadian town 'Swastika', 
which had as a logo the real Nazi-swastika (in 1912).

He was a friend of Richard Wagner. His granddaughter was Unity Midfort 
and that was Hitler's girlfriend. Another granddaughter was Lady Diana 
Guiness, who married the leader of the BuF (Sir Oswald Mosley).

Lord Redescale was assumed to be the illegitimate father of Clementine 
Hozier, which was the wife of Winston Churchill.

Thomas Huxley had a grandson, who was the leader of 'Eugenics' (Julian 
Huxley).

Julian Huxley was also a spy and founder of UNESCO.

His brother Aldous was member of the so called apostles of Cambridge, 
(which was the British version of 'Skull and Bones'). There he met 
Ludwig Wittgenstein and Bertrand Russel.

Russel was the head of the 'Fabians' and promoter of (national-) Socialism.

The other brother of Julian Huxley was Noel Trevenen Huxley. And for 
some reason I assume, this was the British spy commonly known as 'Hitler'.



> You do know that a person is not responsible for evil people
> misinterpreting and corrupting his work?

This depends a little on the circumstances.

If you take part in a plot, than you are also responsible.

Darwin's books seem to me like being propaganda in the sense of Eugenics 
and the Fabians. And both are apparently part of something sinister 
called 'New World Order'.



>> But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For
>> instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.
>
> So what? We've moved 150 years past what Darwin could learn with the
> technology of his day. His major value nowadays is as the urDaddy of the
> science of evolution.


Even if the main principle might be correct, his intention was not true 
science, but some kind of attack on religions.

To make his version of evolution at least somehow plausible, he had to 
make the evolution of species MUCH faster than it really is.

He had an 'error factor' of more than 10,000 , by which the evolution 
took longer than he thought.

This was needed, to justify such evil agenda (as Eugenics) and what I 
assume to be intentional.

>
>> Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a
>> variety of species.
>
> Yeah, so what?


Well, 'competition between the individuals/races/species' was the 
principle what he assumed top be the driving mechanism in all life.

 From this idea stems actually the term 'Darwinism' or 'survival of the 
fittest'.

Only: this is not true and the fittest do not always survive.

Another powerful concept is called 'cooperation', which we find all over 
the place.

E.g. dogs just love to do something with and/or for their human 
counterpart.

>
>> But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals,
>> since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.
>
> What were Darwin's "political goals"? And what does Darwin have to do
> with a vile practice that was invented years after he died?


His political goals are rather unimportant. But someone paid him and his 
voyage, who eventually had political goals.


TH

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#597360

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-17 16:44 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-583327.16443717092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#597296
In article <e45225Ft4sjU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 17.09.2016 13:14, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> 
> >>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
> >>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
> >>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
> >>> supernatural beings.
> >>
> >> Darwin was an evil British idiot.
> >
> > How was he "evil"?
> >
> >
> >> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him
> >> personally to various 'bad guys'.
> >
> > What is this line?
> 
> There was a 'Thomas Huxley', who was called 'Darwin's bulldog'.
> 
> He was member of the so called 'X-Club', which had friendly relations to 
> Count Arthur de Gobineau.
> 
>  From this guy stems the idea of the 'Aryan race'. He was quite 
> influential on other Nazi-theoreticians, like e.g. Houston Steward 
> Chamberlain.
> 
> Chamberlain was the son in law of Richard Wagner. He wrote a lot of 
> racist Nazi-pamphlet, to which a Lord Redescale wrote the forwards.
> 
> This guy was the owner of a gold-mine in the Canadian town 'Swastika', 
> which had as a logo the real Nazi-swastika (in 1912).
> 
> He was a friend of Richard Wagner. His granddaughter was Unity Midfort 
> and that was Hitler's girlfriend. Another granddaughter was Lady Diana 
> Guiness, who married the leader of the BuF (Sir Oswald Mosley).
> 
> Lord Redescale was assumed to be the illegitimate father of Clementine 
> Hozier, which was the wife of Winston Churchill.
> 
> Thomas Huxley had a grandson, who was the leader of 'Eugenics' (Julian 
> Huxley).
> 
> Julian Huxley was also a spy and founder of UNESCO.
> 
> His brother Aldous was member of the so called apostles of Cambridge, 
> (which was the British version of 'Skull and Bones'). There he met 
> Ludwig Wittgenstein and Bertrand Russel.
> 
> Russel was the head of the 'Fabians' and promoter of (national-) Socialism.
> 
> The other brother of Julian Huxley was Noel Trevenen Huxley. And for 
> some reason I assume, this was the British spy commonly known as 'Hitler'.

And how does ANY of this indict Darwin? 


> > You do know that a person is not responsible for evil people
> > misinterpreting and corrupting his work?
> 
> This depends a little on the circumstances.
> 
> If you take part in a plot, than you are also responsible.
> 
> Darwin's books seem to me like being propaganda in the sense of Eugenics 
> and the Fabians. And both are apparently part of something sinister 
> called 'New World Order'.

And now you've proven yourself an irredeemable idiot.


> >> But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For
> >> instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.
> >
> > So what? We've moved 150 years past what Darwin could learn with the
> > technology of his day. His major value nowadays is as the urDaddy of the
> > science of evolution.
> 
> 
> Even if the main principle might be correct, his intention was not true 
> science, but some kind of attack on religions.

How was it that? He was a loyal member of the COE until his daughter 
died.


> To make his version of evolution at least somehow plausible, he had to 
> make the evolution of species MUCH faster than it really is.

So what? Why are you having so much problem understanding how much our 
knowledge has increased in the last 150 years?


> He had an 'error factor' of more than 10,000 , by which the evolution 
> took longer than he thought.
> 
> This was needed, to justify such evil agenda (as Eugenics) and what I 
> assume to be intentional.

And ever loonier. Provide evidence that Darwin ever espoused eugenics.


> >> Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a
> >> variety of species.
> >
> > Yeah, so what?
> 
> 
> Well, 'competition between the individuals/races/species' was the 
> principle what he assumed top be the driving mechanism in all life.

So what?


>  From this idea stems actually the term 'Darwinism' or 'survival of the 
> fittest'.

Which, of course, is a distortion of what Darwin said.


> Only: this is not true and the fittest do not always survive.

Of course not. It's about the survival of species, not of individuals. 
Why don't you know this? I thought the Germans had a proper educational 
system.


> Another powerful concept is called 'cooperation', which we find all over 
> the place.
> 
> E.g. dogs just love to do something with and/or for their human 
> counterpart.

Yeah, so?


> >> But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals,
> >> since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.
> >
> > What were Darwin's "political goals"? And what does Darwin have to do
> > with a vile practice that was invented years after he died?
> 
> 
> His political goals are rather unimportant. But someone paid him and his 
> voyage, who eventually had political goals.

Provide evidence for these "political goals".


Your educational system should sue you for implying that it's 
incompetent.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#597367

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-09-17 19:42 -0500
Message-ID<4qlrtbtefm6jecslqd5c0maig2505eij9f@4ax.com>
In reply to#597360
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 16:44:38 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>In article <e45225Ft4sjU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 17.09.2016 13:14, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>> 
>> >>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
>> >>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
>> >>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
>> >>> supernatural beings.
>> >>
>> >> Darwin was an evil British idiot.
>> >
>> > How was he "evil"?
>> >
>> >
>> >> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him
>> >> personally to various 'bad guys'.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>> > What is this line?
>> 
>> There was a 'Thomas Huxley', who was called 'Darwin's bulldog'.

So?

He defended Darwin's ideas.

What they actually wore, not what liars like this one pretend.

>> He was member of the so called 'X-Club', which had friendly relations to 
>> Count Arthur de Gobineau.

It was a science club.

And what was their connection with de Gobineau?

>>  From this guy stems the idea of the 'Aryan race'. He was quite 
>> influential on other Nazi-theoreticians, like e.g. Houston Steward 
>> Chamberlain.

So?

>> Chamberlain was the son in law of Richard Wagner. He wrote a lot of 
>> racist Nazi-pamphlet, to which a Lord Redescale wrote the forwards.

So?
 
>> This guy was the owner of a gold-mine in the Canadian town 'Swastika', 
>> which had as a logo the real Nazi-swastika (in 1912).

So? Was it actually a Nazi swastika or one of the many sun-symbols
like the traditional Hindu one? 

Before the Nazis adopted it, it was a good luck symbol in Western
Europe, originating as the Hindu svastika which was originally a sun
symbol but was also (and still is) a good luck symbol that you see at
Indian weddings.

The town was named for the Swastika mine.

>> He was a friend of Richard Wagner. His granddaughter was Unity Midfort 
>> and that was Hitler's girlfriend. Another granddaughter was Lady Diana 
>> Guiness, who married the leader of the BuF (Sir Oswald Mosley).

So what?
 
>> Lord Redescale was assumed to be the illegitimate father of Clementine 
>> Hozier, which was the wife of Winston Churchill.

And?
 
>> Thomas Huxley had a grandson, who was the leader of 'Eugenics' (Julian 
>> Huxley).

Gross distortion to the point of lying.

>> Julian Huxley was also a spy 

Lie.

>                                                   and founder of UNESCO.
>> 
>> His brother Aldous was member of the so called apostles of Cambridge, 
>> (which was the British version of 'Skull and Bones'). There he met 
>> Ludwig Wittgenstein and Bertrand Russel.

So?

>> Russel was the head of the 'Fabians' and promoter of (national-) Socialism.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

The Fabians are a middle class, intellectual socialist society. They
were never Marxist, and they were certainly not Nazis.

>> The other brother of Julian Huxley was Noel Trevenen Huxley. And for 
>> some reason I assume, this was the British spy commonly known as 'Hitler'.

What a fucking moron/

>And how does ANY of this indict Darwin? 

None of it does.

He's just another asshole being a rectal orifice for the sake of being
an anal sphinctre.

>> > You do know that a person is not responsible for evil people
>> > misinterpreting and corrupting his work?
>> 
>> This depends a little on the circumstances.

Darwin was responsible for none of the things that bigoted, lying
religious loonies accuse him of.

>> If you take part in a plot, than you are also responsible.

What  "plot" was the pathological liar pretending Darwin was part of?
 
>> Darwin's books seem to me like being propaganda in the sense of Eugenics 
>> and the Fabians. And both are apparently part of something sinister 
>> called 'New World Order'.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>And now you've proven yourself an irredeemable idiot.

And a deliberately nasty, button-pushing liar.

>> >> But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For
>> >> instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.

He CONCLUDED it - tat's what the struggle for survival known as
natural selection, is.

>> > So what? We've moved 150 years past what Darwin could learn with the
>> > technology of his day. His major value nowadays is as the urDaddy of the
>> > science of evolution.
>> 
>> 
>> Even if the main principle might be correct, his intention was not true 
>> science, but some kind of attack on religions.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

He was sufficiently religious to study for the ministry at Cambridge,
even if he dropped out to go on the voyage of the Beagle.

He lost his faith when he could not reconcile the benevolent, loving
god of his youth, with the life or death, eat or be eaten struggle for
survival that was nature in the raw.

And he held off publishing Origin until 1859 to avoid upsetting the
religious.

>How was it that? He was a loyal member of the COE until his daughter 
>died.

No. He was already an agnostic when he proposed to his wife - that was
the last straw,

>> To make his version of evolution at least somehow plausible, he had to 
>> make the evolution of species MUCH faster than it really is.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>So what? Why are you having so much problem understanding how 
>much our knowledge has increased in the last 150 years?

He's just a piggy-ignorant, lying troll.

>> He had an 'error factor' of more than 10,000 , by which the evolution 
>> took longer than he thought.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.
 
>> This was needed, to justify such evil agenda (as Eugenics) and what I 
>> assume to be intentional.

What a fucking moron. A deliberately button-pushing liar as well as an
idiot.

>And ever loonier. Provide evidence that Darwin ever espoused eugenics.

He didn't.

>> >> Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a
>> >> variety of species.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>> > Yeah, so what?
>> 
>> Well, 'competition between the individuals/races/species' was the 
>> principle what he assumed top be the driving mechanism in all life.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>So what?
>
>>  From this idea stems actually the term 'Darwinism' or 'survival of the 
>> fittest'.

There is no such thing as "Darwinism" - that is a deliberate canard by
creationists to pretend that well understood science is merely an
ideology.

>Which, of course, is a distortion of what Darwin said.

All "survival of the fittest" means is that those who survive to pass
on whatever caused them to survive, to subsequent generations, pass it
on - and those which don't, don't.

>> Only: this is not true and the fittest do not always survive.

So what?

>Of course not. It's about the survival of species, not of individuals. 
>Why don't you know this? I thought the Germans had a proper educational 
>system.

Because he's a fucking moron.

>> Another powerful concept is called 'cooperation', which we find all over 
>> the place.

And?

That led to domestication and selection by Man.
 
>> E.g. dogs just love to do something with and/or for their human 
>> counterpart.

Because Man selected them for it.

>Yeah, so?

It;s just being deliberately stupid.

>> >> But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals,
>> >> since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>> > What were Darwin's "political goals"? And what does Darwin have to do
>> > with a vile practice that was invented years after he died?
>> 
>> 
>> His political goals are rather unimportant. But someone paid him and his 
>> voyage, who eventually had political goals.

Liar,

His family was wealthy enough for to pay for his part in the voyage,
even though they weren't rich. He was one of the Wedgwoods - his
grandfather was the founder of the famous quality pottery
manufacturing company.

>Provide evidence for these "political goals".

It can't.

>Your educational system should sue you for implying that it's 
>incompetent.

Germany has an excellent public education system so he must have gone
to some fundamentalist religious school instead.

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