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censorship in this group

Started bytrudi.schwander@gmail.com
First post2016-06-28 18:49 -0700
Last post2016-07-05 11:12 -0700
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  censorship in this group trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2016-06-28 18:49 -0700
    Re: censorship in this group James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 21:22 -0700
      Re: censorship in this group James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 16:12 -0700
    Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-29 05:27 +0000
      Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 00:38 -0700
        Re: censorship in this group trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2016-06-29 03:46 -0700
          Re: censorship in this group Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-29 08:07 -0500
            Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 12:51 -0500
              Re: censorship in this group Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-29 13:02 -0500
                Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 13:21 -0500
              Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-29 18:08 +0000
                Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 13:23 -0500
                  Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 00:54 +0000
                    Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 22:48 -0500
                      Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 22:44 -0700
                        Re: censorship in this group trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2016-06-30 01:18 -0700
                          Re: censorship in this group Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-30 08:53 -0500
                          Re: censorship in this group "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-30 08:39 -0700
                      Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 05:37 +0000
                        Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 11:16 -0500
                          Re: censorship in this group Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-05 14:19 -0500
                            Re: censorship in this group Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 12:55 -0700
                              Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-06 11:42 -0500
                                Re: censorship in this group Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 19:21 -0700
                                  Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-07 01:15 -0500
                                    Re: censorship in this group Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 16:25 -0700
                              Re: censorship in this group "Dan Smythe" <invalid@example.com> - 2016-07-06 18:18 -0700
                                Re: censorship in this group Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 19:11 -0700
                            Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-06 11:26 -0500
                          Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-05 19:43 +0000
            Re: censorship in this group Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 19:51 -0700
          Re: censorship in this group moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-29 13:36 +0000
        Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-29 14:51 +0000
          Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 12:55 -0500
            Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-29 18:10 +0000
              Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 13:45 -0500
                Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 00:56 +0000
                  Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 23:00 -0500
        Re: censorship in this group Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-06-30 13:11 -0700
      Re: censorship in this group benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-06-29 17:46 -0400
        Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 01:00 +0000
          Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 19:30 -0700
            Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 02:57 +0000
              Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 21:19 -0700
                Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 05:39 +0000
              Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 21:35 -0700
                Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 00:13 -0500
                  Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 22:35 -0700
                  Re: censorship in this group "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-29 22:42 -0700
                  Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 05:44 +0000
                    Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 10:58 -0500
                      Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 18:50 +0000
                  Re: censorship in this group moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-30 14:05 +0000
                    Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 17:41 -0500
                    Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-30 23:01 -0700
                Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 05:42 +0000
          Re: censorship in this group benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-01 17:41 -0400
            Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:14 +0000
    Re: censorship in this group Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 09:22 -0500
      Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-30 23:17 -0700
        Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-30 23:32 -0700
          Re: censorship in this group john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 06:40 -0700
          Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 11:19 -0500
        Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 11:06 -0500
          Re: censorship in this group moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-02 23:17 +0000
            Re: censorship in this group "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 11:12 -0700

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#587440

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-30 23:32 -0700
Message-ID<57760E61.5828@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#587438
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >
> > On 6/28/2016 8:49 PM, trudi.schwander@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I keep seeing forms of attempted censorship in this group. I thought that this
> > > group was supposed to be without a moderator. Who is playing "censor" in this group?
> > > I would like to decide for myself what I want to read, and what I do not want to read.
> > > That is why I chose to read "non-moderated" news groups. Whoever is trying to censor
> > > stuff for this group should start their own group and become moderator and then censor
> > > whatever they want to. Or better still move to a country where censorship is openly
> > > practiced and apply for a job as a "censor" and happily live and stay in that country.
> > > andrew vecsey
> > >
> >
> > The group is not being censored. The messages are there. It's just that
> > you're using Google Groups as a newsreader, which does hide some
> > messages that are in fact there.
> 
> Hide and censored are the same thing, ...stupid.
> 
> conceal from the view or notice of others.
> https://www.google.com/#q=define+hide
> 
> suppressing unacceptable parts.
> https://www.google.com/#q=define+censorship
> 
> synonyms:       censor, keep secret, conceal, hide,
> https://www.google.com/#q=define+suppressing
> 
> I was talking about UDP, not UPD.
> 
> either way, it's U.
> 
> U
> PD
> are
> a
> human
> DP
> 
> and thats
> a
> P
> in
> my
> book.



just in case
anybody is wondering...
PD is a walking UDP.

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#587455

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-01 06:40 -0700
Message-ID<0642f4a2-0f2a-42b8-8f47-d983dd4b0d4d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587440
Can he still walk?

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#587475

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 11:19 -0500
Message-ID<1drlg3esoozhr.ecjlj4svgdr5$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587440
On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 23:32:01 -0700, The Starmaker
wrote:

> just in case
> anybody is wondering...
> PD is a walking UDP.

And is not there to prevent people from breaking law.
Police's main job is the red tape following a broken
law. This is good to have. The rest of what they do
has to do with very rare cases of catching psychos,
which again is good to have. 

In usenet policing is counterproductive. People should
be able to either keep it or fuck it up depending on
who those people are. Any participant in usenet can
himself killfile people he dislikes and concentrate on
what he likes to spend his little time dealing with.
And if some of you go around deleting other people's
messages then usenet cannot hold, as simple as that.
You've got to let a culprit get what he deserves by
his own actions. You can't force him to become a nice
netizen. 

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#587472

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 11:06 -0500
Message-ID<tbyynpo5cf6.1g4dmf6h9q4l4$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587438
On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 23:17:05 -0700, The Starmaker
wrote:

> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> 
>> On 6/28/2016 8:49 PM, trudi.schwander@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I keep seeing forms of attempted censorship in this group. I thought that this
>>> group was supposed to be without a moderator. Who is playing "censor" in this group?
>>> I would like to decide for myself what I want to read, and what I do not want to read.
>>> That is why I chose to read "non-moderated" news groups. Whoever is trying to censor
>>> stuff for this group should start their own group and become moderator and then censor
>>> whatever they want to. Or better still move to a country where censorship is openly
>>> practiced and apply for a job as a "censor" and happily live and stay in that country.
>>> andrew vecsey
>>>
>> 
>> The group is not being censored. The messages are there. It's just that
>> you're using Google Groups as a newsreader, which does hide some
>> messages that are in fact there.
> 
> 
> Hide and censored are the same thing, ...stupid.
> 

Some on Google specifically says "This message was
deleted." That's my concern. Whoever that did it must
allow everybody to do it so the truth can have a
chance to come up. 

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#587728

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-07-02 23:17 +0000
Message-ID<nl9i1s$p8g$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#587472
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> writes:

>Some on Google specifically says "This message was
>deleted." That's my concern. Whoever that did it must
>allow everybody to do it so the truth can have a
>chance to come up. 

Google may remove stuff from their own archives of Usenet.

1) Having done so, I doubt they send out cancels for those articles,
so they remain available until they expire there.

2) Even if they did send out cancels, cancels don't work any longer 
anyway.

Unfortunately, no matter how much Google has screwed up Usenet, they are 
still the biggest source for old Usenet articles.

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#588049

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-05 11:12 -0700
Message-ID<af8e8d59-5555-4450-be38-d5564ae07e3a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587728
On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 4:18:05 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> writes:
> 
> >Some on Google specifically says "This message was
> >deleted." That's my concern. Whoever that did it must
> >allow everybody to do it so the truth can have a
> >chance to come up. 
> 
> Google may remove stuff from their own archives of Usenet.
> 
> 1) Having done so, I doubt they send out cancels for those articles,
> so they remain available until they expire there.
> 
> 2) Even if they did send out cancels, cancels don't work any longer ,
> anyway.
> 
> Unfortunately, no matter how much Google has screwed up Usenet, they are 
> still the biggest source for old Usenet articles.

23 years and 15 theories posted here in the hope they freeze my ideas. That way it can be proven they are mine.I like that TreBert

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