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  censorship in this group trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2016-06-28 18:49 -0700
    Re: censorship in this group James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 21:22 -0700
      Re: censorship in this group James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 16:12 -0700
    Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-29 05:27 +0000
      Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 00:38 -0700
        Re: censorship in this group trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2016-06-29 03:46 -0700
          Re: censorship in this group Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-29 08:07 -0500
            Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 12:51 -0500
              Re: censorship in this group Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-29 13:02 -0500
                Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 13:21 -0500
              Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-29 18:08 +0000
                Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 13:23 -0500
                  Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 00:54 +0000
                    Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 22:48 -0500
                      Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 22:44 -0700
                        Re: censorship in this group trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2016-06-30 01:18 -0700
                          Re: censorship in this group Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-30 08:53 -0500
                          Re: censorship in this group "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-30 08:39 -0700
                      Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 05:37 +0000
                        Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 11:16 -0500
                          Re: censorship in this group Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-05 14:19 -0500
                            Re: censorship in this group Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 12:55 -0700
                              Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-06 11:42 -0500
                                Re: censorship in this group Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 19:21 -0700
                                  Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-07 01:15 -0500
                                    Re: censorship in this group Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 16:25 -0700
                              Re: censorship in this group "Dan Smythe" <invalid@example.com> - 2016-07-06 18:18 -0700
                                Re: censorship in this group Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 19:11 -0700
                            Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-06 11:26 -0500
                          Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-05 19:43 +0000
            Re: censorship in this group Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 19:51 -0700
          Re: censorship in this group moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-29 13:36 +0000
        Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-29 14:51 +0000
          Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 12:55 -0500
            Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-29 18:10 +0000
              Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 13:45 -0500
                Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 00:56 +0000
                  Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 23:00 -0500
        Re: censorship in this group Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-06-30 13:11 -0700
      Re: censorship in this group benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-06-29 17:46 -0400
        Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 01:00 +0000
          Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 19:30 -0700
            Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 02:57 +0000
              Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 21:19 -0700
                Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 05:39 +0000
              Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 21:35 -0700
                Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 00:13 -0500
                  Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-29 22:35 -0700
                  Re: censorship in this group "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-29 22:42 -0700
                  Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 05:44 +0000
                    Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 10:58 -0500
                      Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 18:50 +0000
                  Re: censorship in this group moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-30 14:05 +0000
                    Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 17:41 -0500
                    Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-30 23:01 -0700
                Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-30 05:42 +0000
          Re: censorship in this group benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-01 17:41 -0400
            Re: censorship in this group jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:14 +0000
    Re: censorship in this group Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 09:22 -0500
      Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-30 23:17 -0700
        Re: censorship in this group The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-30 23:32 -0700
          Re: censorship in this group john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 06:40 -0700
          Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 11:19 -0500
        Re: censorship in this group ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 11:06 -0500
          Re: censorship in this group moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-02 23:17 +0000
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#588057

>>> But archives are kept on google machines, no?
>>
>> Archives are kept in many places.
>>
>> Anyone that wants to can keep archives.
>
> Point to one comprehensive archive that still has
> 1990s posts from any newsgroup. Other than Google's
> that is.
>
> Or better (this is of course the part you'll snip),
> point to an archive other than Google that has a post
> titled "American embassy in Tehran" written and posted
> in 1996 by some obscure man "Mehram Maleki" :) Nobody
> has it but Google. Nobody in USA has the chance to
> know such important facts in any other way than
> Google.
>

big problem is that google can just delete it whenever it wants too. 
They could sell it off to Smckelsky's News, and if Smchelskys goes out 
of business you are SOL.

some google manager will come along and say why are we storing this 
stuff, it costs money, and no one reads it....

I think with the books Google has scanned in is different, contractually 
google *may be* required to make it available on line for 50? years, 
(you may still have to pay)  But if Google goes belly up, (or sells it 
as a business) bankrupsy court throws it all out, and it is gone.

I have found websites have a finite lifetime, so when I find valabule 
information out there, I copy it then, and store it local.

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#588062

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 3:19:39 PM UTC-4, Sergio wrote:
> >>> But archives are kept on google machines, no?
> >>
> >> Archives are kept in many places.
> >>
> >> Anyone that wants to can keep archives.
> >
> > Point to one comprehensive archive that still has
> > 1990s posts from any newsgroup. Other than Google's
> > that is.
> >
> > Or better (this is of course the part you'll snip),
> > point to an archive other than Google that has a post
> > titled "American embassy in Tehran" written and posted
> > in 1996 by some obscure man "Mehram Maleki" :) Nobody
> > has it but Google. Nobody in USA has the chance to
> > know such important facts in any other way than
> > Google.
> 
> big problem is that google can just delete it whenever it wants too. 
> They could sell it off to Smckelsky's News, and if Smchelskys goes out 
> of business you are SOL.
> 
> some google manager will come along and say why are we storing this 
> stuff, it costs money, and no one reads it....
> 
> I think with the books Google has scanned in is different, contractually 
> google *may be* required to make it available on line for 50? years, 
> (you may still have to pay)  But if Google goes belly up, (or sells it 
> as a business) bankrupsy court throws it all out, and it is gone.
> 
> I have found websites have a finite lifetime, so when I find valabule 
> information out there, I copy it then, and store it local.

It's good to know your storage devices bypass the finite lifetime limits.

Some readers suggest that only the latest posts are of any interest.
Whatever happened in the Past should remain only in the Past. Weird.

Because of all your interesting and good points above, there can be
only one solution. Repeat post your contents fairly frequently to
refresh the ageTime on all Usenet Servers -- Google or otherwise.

Highlander Queen: Who wants to live forever... cute storyline that.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Highlander+Queen:+Who+wants+to+live+forever 

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”
                          /\  "If the line between science fiction and 
                            /   science fact doesn't drive you crazy, 
 /\                         \   then you're just not tr(y)ing!" 
 \           /\/\  /  \   \/                    Mahipal Virdy 
 /   ==    \  /  \/\/                         The |meforce> Paradox 
 \/                            http://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/ 

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#588143

On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 12:55:30 -0700 (PDT), Mahipal
wrote:

> there can be
> only one solution. Repeat post your contents fairly frequently to
> refresh the ageTime on all Usenet Servers -- Google or otherwise.

Human has done it so far in steps of about 70 years
each by instilling them into their children's minds.
It is approximate but it can last a little more than a
couple of thousands of years. But not more than that.
The oldest truth we know that got to us without
writing them, even against present lies and attempts
to destroy it, has been via parent to child transfer
and is not older than 2500 years. 

Nothing remains of human attempts for preservation
after about 2500 years unless you are a king of kings
with near limitless resources to spend for it. But
even that will go away one day. It's a losing battle. 

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#588228

On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 12:42:22 PM UTC-4, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 12:55:30 -0700 (PDT), Mahipal
> wrote:
> 
> > there can be
> > only one solution. Repeat post your contents fairly frequently to
> > refresh the ageTime on all Usenet Servers -- Google or otherwise.
> 
> Human has done it so far in steps of about 70 years
> each by instilling them into their children's minds.
> It is approximate but it can last a little more than a
> couple of thousands of years. But not more than that.
> The oldest truth we know that got to us without
> writing them, even against present lies and attempts
> to destroy it, has been via parent to child transfer
> and is not older than 2500 years. 

Wasn't human life expectancy 2500 years ago like only 40?
 
> Nothing remains of human attempts for preservation
> after about 2500 years unless you are a king of kings
> with near limitless resources to spend for it. But
> even that will go away one day. It's a losing battle. 

What's a king got to record? The land is mine. That property is
mine. Those jewels, mine. All the women and slaves, mine. Yawn.

It does seem like a losing battle, one large asteroid and poof! 

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#588238

On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 19:21:34 -0700 (PDT), Mahipal
wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 12:42:22 PM UTC-4, ClutterFreak wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 12:55:30 -0700 (PDT), Mahipal
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> there can be
>>> only one solution. Repeat post your contents fairly frequently to
>>> refresh the ageTime on all Usenet Servers -- Google or otherwise.
>> 
>> Human has done it so far in steps of about 70 years
>> each by instilling them into their children's minds.
>> It is approximate but it can last a little more than a
>> couple of thousands of years. But not more than that.
>> The oldest truth we know that got to us without
>> writing them, even against present lies and attempts
>> to destroy it, has been via parent to child transfer
>> and is not older than 2500 years. 
> 
> Wasn't human life expectancy 2500 years ago like only 40?
>  

I'm not sure. In old Iranian stories men lived much
longer than that. With low populations epidemics are
rare. Cholera was in one spot in India for a million
years and didn't spread until population was high
enough. 


>> Nothing remains of human attempts for preservation
>> after about 2500 years unless you are a king of kings
>> with near limitless resources to spend for it. But
>> even that will go away one day. It's a losing battle. 
> 
> What's a king got to record? The land is mine. That property is
> mine. Those jewels, mine. All the women and slaves, mine. Yawn.
> 

Heheheh :-) No there are more important things than
that to record also. The first notion of "human
rights" in human history is inscribed on a piece of
stone and listed. The first charter. Cyrus had it
written 2700 years ago! Look up Cyrus Cylinder

> It does seem like a losing battle, one large asteroid and poof! 
> 

Or human itself. The number one reason things
disappear is humans. ISIS would smash the Cyrus Cyl in
no time. The three magi who created Christianity had
their graves built in the most careful manner and
people did everything to preserve them. Christianity
was a child of Mithraism. It was tied to it strongly.
Then Marco Polo sighted the graves and described them
when he passed through Saveh, Iran. That was it.
Somehow European priests had them destroyed after
that. The "three wise men" had to stay in their
stories exactly the way they wanted. 

Humans destroy information better than anything else.
And it is easy to see how. Imagine, say, hvac finds
out he was born from a rectum of a Moslem man. Imagine
he actually finds that this somehow happened. And
video and other documents of it are all in a bag that
he has access to. Do you give such important
information (human getting conceived inside a man's
rectum) a chance to survive the hands of hvac? 

Look what they did to their "Christianity". Newton has
a passage in his writings on history of Church almost
making fun of how Monks appeared out of no where. He
narrowed it to one man. The culprit. Or how the
Trinity suddenly popped up. And etc and etc. Human
alone will destroy information. You don't need an
asteroid. 

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#588297

This discussion is Top Secret Classified Red, in retrospect, after the
fact and all that, ... keep your eyes and email servers off Off OFF!
Especially if your security clearance level colour is inadequate. Bye.

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 19:21:34 -0700 (PDT), Mahipal
> wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 12:42:22 PM UTC-4, ClutterFreak wrote:
> >> On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 12:55:30 -0700 (PDT), Mahipal
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> there can be
> >>> only one solution. Repeat post your contents fairly frequently to
> >>> refresh the ageTime on all Usenet Servers -- Google or otherwise.
> >> 
> >> Human has done it so far in steps of about 70 years
> >> each by instilling them into their children's minds.
> >> It is approximate but it can last a little more than a
> >> couple of thousands of years. But not more than that.
> >> The oldest truth we know that got to us without
> >> writing them, even against present lies and attempts
> >> to destroy it, has been via parent to child transfer
> >> and is not older than 2500 years. 
> > 
> > Wasn't human life expectancy 2500 years ago like only 40?
> >  
> I'm not sure. In old Iranian stories men lived much
> longer than that. With low populations epidemics are
> rare. Cholera was in one spot in India for a million
> years and didn't spread until population was high
> enough. 

I grew up in India, born in Delhi, played in Punjab.

> >> Nothing remains of human attempts for preservation
> >> after about 2500 years unless you are a king of kings
> >> with near limitless resources to spend for it. But
> >> even that will go away one day. It's a losing battle. 
> > 
> > What's a king got to record? The land is mine. That property is
> > mine. Those jewels, mine. All the women and slaves, mine. Yawn.
> 
> Heheheh :-) No there are more important things than
> that to record also. The first notion of "human
> rights" in human history is inscribed on a piece of
> stone and listed. The first charter. Cyrus had it
> written 2700 years ago! Look up Cyrus Cylinder

http://www.livius.org/ct-cz/cyrus_I/cyrus_cylinder2.html is concise.

I've heard/read about the Cyrus Cylinder. I admit freely, as is my
human right, to watching Ancient Aliens, and the like, TV show -- the
one where they repeat every two minutes the phrase: Ancient Astronaut
Theorists believe... https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ancient+aliens

Now that I've admitted it, can we still be friends? Where you going?!
Some topics I should forbid meself from discussing. I ought STFU? Nay.

One neat thing about watching Ancient Aliens is that we get to see
filmed details of ancient human archeology sites that we as individuals
would never personally get to visit. Ever. Doing the math, we get a whole
two everlasting weeks off per year from Income Slavery Providers (ISP)
with no money, either left or available, to travel... DisneyWorld it is!

Kids: Dad, why do we always vacation only at Disney? Why why WHY?

See https://mahipal7638.wordpress.com ME Tetrahedrons Cuneiformic 

The handdrawn 3D MEimage there is derived, based upon, having seen many
Akkadian cuneiformic tablet writings. Never knowing a word. Meontology,
as a word, an idea, a philosophy, was a neat random coincidental finding.

> > It does seem like a losing battle, one large asteroid and poof! 
> 
> Or human itself. The number one reason things
> disappear is humans. ISIS would smash the Cyrus Cyl in
> no time. The three magi who created Christianity had
> their graves built in the most careful manner and
> people did everything to preserve them. Christianity
> was a child of Mithraism. It was tied to it strongly.
> Then Marco Polo sighted the graves and described them
> when he passed through Saveh, Iran. That was it.
> Somehow European priests had them destroyed after
> that. The "three wise men" had to stay in their
> stories exactly the way they wanted. 

The main threat to Humanity are humans themselves. Ironic that.
Live streaming on a #smartestphone in your nearest hands... Yea...

Give me a minute, watching white USA Cops shoot dead two more black
men on live streaming media/TV. Two more dead. At this deathrate...

> Humans destroy information better than anything else.
> And it is easy to see how. Imagine, say, hvac finds
> out he was born from a rectum of a Moslem man. Imagine
> he actually finds that this somehow happened. And
> video and other documents of it are all in a bag that
> he has access to. Do you give such important
> information (human getting conceived inside a man's
> rectum) a chance to survive the hands of hvac? 

Empty HVAC might just be a mole/probe/drone/SW/... sent out to seek out
advanced civil people, and then his hyenas move in to killEat them all.

> Look what they did to their "Christianity". Newton has
> a passage in his writings on history of Church almost
> making fun of how Monks appeared out of no where. He
> narrowed it to one man. The culprit. Or how the
> Trinity suddenly popped up. And etc and etc. Human
> alone will destroy information. You don't need an
> asteroid. 

Trinity, Three Wise Men, Threesomes' SEX, ... Three three THREE. Magic 3!

With the asteroid collision expectation... I was cutting to the chase.
I could've gone with: In three billion years our Sun goes ...youKnow.

I rather respect all people to hold their own personal views on just
about anything -- Science, Religion, Language, etc. -- as long as they
don't come around demanding: Come to our side Mahipal, think only like us.

Speaking of Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Darwin, et. al. ... Isn't it
curious convenient that Noah's Ark needed no measurable cubicle space to be
allocated for fish, alligators, octopuss(y)es, ..., Chinamen, Mayans, ...?!

Shhh... me m(y) ISP Masters are coming around the bend... in a new intern.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#588221

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#588227

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#588142

On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 14:19:28 -0500, Sergio wrote:

> I have found websites have a finite lifetime, so when I find valabule 
> information out there, I copy it then, and store it local.

Locally storing it also is prone to loss. Give any
information time and it goes away. Even if you cut it
into stones the language of it goes away. It is out of
your control. Processes around you will take it away
from you and disperse it exactly like it was,
"nothing." 

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#588061

ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 05:37:33 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 00:54:36 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:08:51 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 08:07:46 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I dont think Google would let people hide other peoples posts.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've started to see that some posts are flat deleted.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, you haven't.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you a little demented? When I go to google groups
>>>>> some posts instead of showing say "deleted".
>>>> 
>>>> Google groups is not USENET.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But archives are kept on google machines, no?
>> 
>> Archives are kept in many places.
>> 
>> Anyone that wants to can keep archives.
> 
> Point to one comprehensive archive that still has
> 1990s posts from any newsgroup. Other than Google's
> that is. 
> 
> Or better (this is of course the part you'll snip),
> point to an archive other than Google that has a post
> titled "American embassy in Tehran" written and posted
> in 1996 by some obscure man "Mehram Maleki" :) Nobody
> has it but Google. Nobody in USA has the chance to
> know such important facts in any other way than
> Google. 

So set up your own news server, set the expiration to never, initially
suck in all old posts, and you have your own archive if it is so
important to you.

All this is trivial to do with Linux machine and some large drives.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#587310

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 9:08:00 AM UTC-4, Sergio wrote:
> On 6/29/2016 5:46 AM, trudi.schwander@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 9:38:25 AM UTC+2, The Starmaker
> > wrote:
> >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >>>
> > ......
> >>
> >> you never heard of udp?
> >
> > udp seems to me too technical for my understanding. All my posts seem
> > to have been posted, but I do see posts that are marked as "hidden"
> > that I must open to read. I do not like that someone makes a
> > judgement for me by marking posts as offensive or abusive.
> 
> ...have an open mind....

Sure Sir SergioJi... but how open?

MIND  
IDEA  
NEAR  
DARE  
 
Or is it, that words are not enough?!

MIND 
IDEA 
NEAT 
DATE

> > Once I
> > open those posts, I am confronted with a question if I have found
> > those posts offensive or not. So far, I have found none of them
> > abusive or offensive.
> 
> ...that is your judgement...

What else does one half, Grasshopper... Have have HAVE... whatever...
 
> > Seems to me like extra bureaucracy that is a
> > step to censorship that I would rather not have.
> 
> ...that is your opinion...

Grasshoppers, like we, all have one One ONE, but why Why WHY?!...

> > I am just wondering
> > in a moderator free group such as this one, who is marking and hiding
> > these posts. The fact that they are marked and hidden I find
> > offensive and abusive. andrew vecsey

Yes, good point. But it seems Social Media Nonsense trusts those who
want to block/censor/silence/... others, than others who write/talk/speak/...

> check your own newsreader on your computer.
> 
>   The location of these posts and forum are on over a hundered servers 
> worldwide that probagate posts to each other.

So much is true True TRUE Master... What makes a difference?
 
> So it is impossable to mark and hide a post to all those servers, and 
> most do not do that function anyway, it is almost impossable to cancel a 
> post from origionater, as you have to get to it fast before it probagates.

Not To Mention the No Such Agency wants your Precognitive Thougts Correct (PTC@#)

In GeekSpeak... NTM the NSA wants to know your PTC@#... He he... Squared!
 
> Im not sure what Google does, but I dont use their servers for newsgroups. 

Google searches serve to find the Usenet Servers you wish by which I/We surf...

> I dont think Google would let people hide other peoples posts.

Google does. All Social Media private corporate services brag about
their capabilities on how not to talk or listen to anyone in particular. 
Usually Me me ME... Is not SW+I+IT=SW/IT HW/SW just mind empt(y)ing?!

All said and done... Google Groups is a means to a Usenet, AsItIs@#...

Imagine... what if posts were written all without spaces, or worse, vowels?!

Trust me, I've been unfollowed on Twitter, faceblocked on Facebook, kill
filed on Usenet... you get used to it. Nobody is censoring me Me ME. Still.
I've been outcasted/shunned... it's all due to me m(y) bamboo flutes. Skill.
I should've taken social interaction lessons when avialable. Please pill! 

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#587219

trudi.schwander@gmail.com writes:

>All my posts seem to have been posted, but I do see posts that are marked 
>as "hidden" that I must open to read. I do not like that someone makes a 
>judgement for me by marking posts as offensive or abusive. Once I open 
>those posts, I am confronted with a question if I have found those posts 
>offensive or not.

Why are you using Google Groups?

Anyway, there is some other Google Grouper who apparently dislikes you
or your posts. It doesn't affect anyone else.  It only affects Google 
Groups users. So move on.

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#587228

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>> trudi.schwander@gmail.com wrote:
>> > I keep seeing forms of attempted censorship in this group.
>> 
>> As censorship in an unmoderated newsgroup is essentially impossible,
>> you must be seeing things.
>> 
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
> 
> 
> you never heard of udp?

Yep, and about 20 years since one was invoked.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#587251

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:51:36 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> trudi.schwander@gmail.com wrote:
>>> > I keep seeing forms of attempted censorship in this group.
>>> 
>>> As censorship in an unmoderated newsgroup is essentially impossible,
>>> you must be seeing things.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jim Pennino
>> 
>> 
>> you never heard of udp?
> 
> Yep, and about 20 years since one was invoked.
> 

Nope. I was using it in 1992 and I was a late comer. 

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#587256

ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:51:36 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> trudi.schwander@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> > I keep seeing forms of attempted censorship in this group.
>>>> 
>>>> As censorship in an unmoderated newsgroup is essentially impossible,
>>>> you must be seeing things.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Jim Pennino
>>> 
>>> 
>>> you never heard of udp?
>> 
>> Yep, and about 20 years since one was invoked.
>> 
> 
> Nope. I was using it in 1992 and I was a late comer. 

2016 - 1992 = 24

Can't do simple arithmetic and also doesn't know an individual can't "use"
a udp.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#587261

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:10:50 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:51:36 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> trudi.schwander@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> > I keep seeing forms of attempted censorship in this group.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As censorship in an unmoderated newsgroup is essentially impossible,
>>>>> you must be seeing things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jim Pennino
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> you never heard of udp?
>>> 
>>> Yep, and about 20 years since one was invoked.
>>> 
>> 
>> Nope. I was using it in 1992 and I was a late comer. 
> 
> 2016 - 1992 = 24
> 
> Can't do simple arithmetic and also doesn't know an individual can't "use"
> a udp.
> 

Wasn't it a way one would use double colon "::" at the
beginning of an email to post it to usenet? 

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#587302

ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:10:50 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:51:36 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> trudi.schwander@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> > I keep seeing forms of attempted censorship in this group.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As censorship in an unmoderated newsgroup is essentially impossible,
>>>>>> you must be seeing things.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jim Pennino
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> you never heard of udp?
>>>> 
>>>> Yep, and about 20 years since one was invoked.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nope. I was using it in 1992 and I was a late comer. 
>> 
>> 2016 - 1992 = 24
>> 
>> Can't do simple arithmetic and also doesn't know an individual can't "use"
>> a udp.
>> 
> 
> Wasn't it a way one would use double colon "::" at the
> beginning of an email to post it to usenet? 

Nope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_Death_Penalty

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#587318

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 00:56:27 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:10:50 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:51:36 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> trudi.schwander@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> > I keep seeing forms of attempted censorship in this group.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As censorship in an unmoderated newsgroup is essentially impossible,
>>>>>>> you must be seeing things.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jim Pennino
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> you never heard of udp?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yep, and about 20 years since one was invoked.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Nope. I was using it in 1992 and I was a late comer. 
>>> 
>>> 2016 - 1992 = 24
>>> 
>>> Can't do simple arithmetic and also doesn't know an individual can't "use"
>>> a udp.
>>> 
>> 
>> Wasn't it a way one would use double colon "::" at the
>> beginning of an email to post it to usenet? 
> 
> Nope.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_Death_Penalty
> 

WTH. I had something totally else in mind. Hehe :)

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#587376

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 12:38:25 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > 
> > trudi.schwander@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I keep seeing forms of attempted censorship in this group.
> > 
> > As censorship in an unmoderated newsgroup is essentially impossible,
> > you must be seeing things.
> > 
> > --
> > Jim Pennino
> 
> 
> you never heard of udp?


United Data Processing?  Yeah!  I used to work there.

Double-A

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#587285

On 6/29/2016 1:27 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> trudi.schwander@gmail.com wrote:
>> I keep seeing forms of attempted censorship in this group.
>
> As censorship in an unmoderated newsgroup is essentially impossible,
> you must be seeing things.

Chimp babble.

Chimp has no idea what is "impossible". He might as well just say "I'm 
stupid".

Of course with care an unmoderated newsgroup is hard to censor, but that 
is why USENET has been methodically removed from most ISPs, why Google 
groups has been modified to make it difficult to use and introduce 
censorship (as Trudi notes) and finally why clowns like HVAC are 
employed to disrupt all intelligent conversations so that the forums 
become totally unusable forcing people to use censored media.

And it's working pretty well as far as I can see.

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