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unloock a phone

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-02-26 09:18 -0800
Last post2016-03-01 18:58 +0800
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  unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 09:18 -0800
    Re: unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 22:08 -0800
      Re: unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 10:58 -0800
        Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-01 14:25 +1100
          Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 22:32 -0500
            Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-01 22:00 +1100
            Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 03:50 -0800
              Re: unloock a phone benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 13:29 -0500
              Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 14:19 -0800
              Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 14:21 -0800
          Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:27 -0800
            Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:28 -0800
              Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:29 -0800
                Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 14:40 -0800
              Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 15:31 -0800
                Re: unlock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 01:36 -0500
                  Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 23:03 -0800
                    Re: unlock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 02:33 -0500
                      Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 03:59 -0800
                      Re: unlock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 05:22 -0800
                        Re: unlock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 05:31 -0800
                          Re: unlock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 06:19 -0800
                          Re: unlock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 14:18 -0500
    Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-28 12:08 +1100
      Re: unloock a phone Emigdio Sophronius <emigg@augustvisitors.org> - 2016-02-28 14:09 +0000
      Re: unloock a phone "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-28 06:10 -0800
        Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-29 11:24 +1100
          Re: unloock a phone "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-28 16:50 -0800
      Re: unloock a phone Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2016-02-29 19:52 +0000
    unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 06:41 -0800
      Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:35 -0500
        Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 08:30 -0800
          Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 02:43 -0500
            Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 04:16 -0800
              Re: unloock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 08:13 -0800
                Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 08:34 -0800
                  Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:47 -0500
                    Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:26 -0800
                    Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:26 -0800
                    Re: unloock a phone Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 15:37 -0800
              Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:20 -0500
                Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 11:37 -0800
                  Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:04 -0500
                Re: unloock a phone HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 11:42 -0800
                  Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:18 -0500
    [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 23:30 +0800
      Re: [OT] Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 17:53 -0500
        Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:17 +0800
      Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-28 19:59 -0800
        Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:19 +0800
          Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 14:44 -0800
            Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:53 +0800
              Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-01 14:16 -0800
                Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 21:46 +0800
                  Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 18:24 -0800
                  Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 22:22 -0800
    [OT] Go misc.phone.mobile.iphone "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:58 +0800

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#557952

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-29 14:20 -0500
Message-ID<56d49a05$0$9275$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#557822
On 02/29/2016 07:16 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a
> little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
> ----------------
>
> First of all, that was a misquote.

And that of course is a lie. Prove it was a misquote. You can't.
All you ever do is lie. (While saying you never lie, which is of course 
a lie! :-)

> But no matter, where does it state that that you have some sort of
> innate right to plot against American citizens, secure in the
> knowledge that your plot is protected by the Constitution?

Rights are things which government cannot take away (except illegally).
Therefore crimes of any kind can never justify the usurpation of rights. 
That is dictatorship, pure and simple. That is communism (ends justfy 
the means) That is your police state thinking.

> It's a foolish notion and you play the role of useful idiot to the
> terrorists by being a champion of this notion.

Lenin knew what "useful idiots" are good for and so do you. You are no 
American. Your love of a police state is antithetical to what America 
stands for. You are the traitor here. Your desire for a slave state 
(slaves have no rights) is obvious and of course you see yourself as 
supreme generalissimo of this state (though that is about as likely as 
Hanson having a Jewish girlfriend).

> You're nothing but a lackey

You are the commie traitor here. You smooth words do not fool those who 
see through to your idea of a slave state. America is not based upon 
those ideas. Indeed today most of those ideas are dead and buried 
(except in the Middle East and Democrat party, natch).

You are just one more leftist mouth pretending to be reasonable to fool 
as many as possible. You've got lots of company out there on the 
campaign trail.

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#557965

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-29 11:37 -0800
Message-ID<63a0dd71-2db7-4f77-938f-6b3ca255b87a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#557952
BJ quacked
> First of all, that was a misquote. 

And that of course is a lie. Prove it was a misquote. You can't. 
All you ever do is lie. (While saying you never lie, which is of course a lie! :-) 
------------

I never said that

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#558048

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-29 16:04 -0500
Message-ID<56d4b268$0$44298$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#557965
On 02/29/2016 02:37 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
>> First of all, that was a misquote.
>
> And that of course is a lie. Prove it was a misquote. You can't.
> All you ever do is lie. (While saying you never lie, which is of course a lie! :-)
> ------------
>
> I never said that
>
You were misquoted? Ha! Expected that!

:-)

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#557972

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-29 11:42 -0800
Message-ID<c94ddf3b-a6fe-4a85-8150-6a11f3d51f90@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#557952
BJ quacked
Rights are things which government cannot take away (except illegally). 
Therefore crimes of any kind can never justify the usurpation of rights. 
That is dictatorship, pure and simple. That is communism (ends justfy 
the means) That is your police state thinking. 
-------------

Please point to the part of the Constitution which gives terrorists the right to keep their plots on electronic devices secret.

Contrary to the opinion of dope smoking, drug-addled, burn outs like you and John, the Constitution was not created to protect terrorists from harming US citizens

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#558055

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-29 16:18 -0500
Message-ID<56d4b59e$0$9225$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#557972
On 02/29/2016 02:42 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked Rights are things which government cannot take away
> (except illegally). Therefore crimes of any kind can never justify
> the usurpation of rights. That is dictatorship, pure and simple. That
> is communism (ends justfy the means) That is your police state
> thinking. -------------
>
> Please point to the part of the Constitution which gives terrorists
> the right to keep their plots on electronic devices secret.

Amendment IV

You unAmerican commie!

> Contrary to the opinion of dope smoking, drug-addled, burn outs like
> you and John, the Constitution was not created to protect terrorists
> from harming US citizens

It was created to prevent would-be tin horn dictators and their minions 
(you) from ruling with limitless power under the false pretense of 
"protecting" their subjects.

You are SUCH a traitor to America!

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#557571 — [OT]

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-28 23:30 +0800
Subject[OT]
Message-ID<nav3ke$3m2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#556882
On 2/27/2016 1:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> ...

Did you forget that this newsgroup is sci.physics.relativity, not 
computer science and crime fighting.

-- 
   @~@   Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real!
  / v \  Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
/( _ )\ (Fedora release 23)  Linux 4.3.5-300.fc23.x86_64
   ^ ^   23:27:01 up 54 min 0 users load average: 0.02 0.03 0.07
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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#557681 — Re: [OT]

FromWolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-28 17:53 -0500
SubjectRe: [OT]
Message-ID<0001HW.1C83B1FE01C7BC32700000D5E3CF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#557571
On 28 Feb 2016, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote
(in article <nav3ke$3m2$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 2/27/2016 1:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> > ...
> 
> Did you forget that this newsgroup is sci.physics.relativity, not
> computer science and crime fighting.

You’re replying to the startwit. You failed to edit the newsgroup list, so 
you just replied to the same groups he crapped on in the first place, only 
one of which is s.p.r. Hint: I saw your ‘this newsgroup’ in a newsgroup 
which most definitely is not s.p.r, as I don’t follow that group and never 
have. Hint the second: I killfiled the startwit a long time ago. May I 
suggest that instead of replying to him that you do the same? If you had done 
this you would not see any more of his crap, and, more importantly, I would 
not currently be wasting my time replying on a startwit thread.

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#557819 — Re: [OT]

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-29 19:17 +0800
SubjectRe: [OT]
Message-ID<nb1967$pui$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#557681
On 2/29/2016 6:53 AM, Wolffan wrote:
> .... this you would not see any more of his crap, and,
 > more importantly, I would not currently be wasting
 > my time replying on a startwit thread.
>

Well, I have some spare time!

Thank your for reminding us, Your Honor! :)

-- 
   @~@   Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real!
  / v \  Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
/( _ )\ (Fedora release 23)  Linux 4.3.5-300.fc23.x86_64
   ^ ^   15:39:01 up 16:56 0 users load average: 1.11 1.04 1.05
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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#557746 — Re: [OT]

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-02-28 19:59 -0800
SubjectRe: [OT]
Message-ID<56D3C231.78EF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#557571
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> 
> On 2/27/2016 1:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> > ...
> 
> Did you forget that this newsgroup is sci.physics.relativity, not
> computer science and crime fighting.


Where there is a lock...there is a key.


If the universe is in some kind of code....you need to unlock it.

The rules apply everywhere...

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#557820 — Re: [OT]

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-29 19:19 +0800
SubjectRe: [OT]
Message-ID<nb19b0$pui$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#557746
On 2/29/2016 11:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Where there is a lock...there is a key.
> If the universe is in some kind of code....you need to unlock it.
> The rules apply everywhere...
>

You still need the key. And the key is supposed to be visible only to 
the owner of the lock.

Well, you are really into encryption, irreversible encryption and 
decryption, which are more mathematics topics.

-- 
   @~@   Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real!
  / v \  Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
/( _ )\ (Fedora release 23)  Linux 4.3.5-300.fc23.x86_64
   ^ ^   15:39:01 up 16:56 0 users load average: 1.11 1.04 1.05
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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#558076 — Re: [OT]

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-02-29 14:44 -0800
SubjectRe: [OT]
Message-ID<56D4C9D5.22A7@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#557820
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> 
> On 2/29/2016 11:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Where there is a lock...there is a key.
> > If the universe is in some kind of code....you need to unlock it.
> > The rules apply everywhere...
> >
> 
> You still need the key. And the key is supposed to be visible only to
> the owner of the lock.
> 
> Well, you are really into encryption, irreversible encryption and
> decryption, which are more mathematics topics.


 key. 2 a : a means of gaining or preventing entrance.


I don't need a physical key to gain entrance/unlock...i just kick the
fuckin door down..it's now open.


you tv set is mines!

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#558247 — Re: [OT]

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-01 18:53 +0800
SubjectRe: [OT]
Message-ID<nb3st2$i9h$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#558076
On 3/1/2016 6:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
>   key. 2 a : a means of gaining or preventing entrance.
> I don't need a physical key to gain entrance/unlock...i just kick the
> fuckin door down..it's now open.
>

You can't do that with electronics and software locks. :)

-- 
   @~@   Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real!
  / v \  Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
/( _ )\ (Fedora release 23)  Linux 4.4.2-301.fc23.x86_64
   ^ ^   19:00:01 up 19 min 0 users load average: 1.00 1.03 0.82
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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#558434 — Re: [OT]

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-01 14:16 -0800
SubjectRe: [OT]
Message-ID<56D614AF.3226@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#558247
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> 
> On 3/1/2016 6:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> >   key. 2 a : a means of gaining or preventing entrance.
> > I don't need a physical key to gain entrance/unlock...i just kick the
> > fuckin door down..it's now open.
> >
> 
> You can't do that with electronics and software locks. :)


It doesn't make any difference what kind of lock it is...


If there is a lock, there's a key.

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#558553 — Re: [OT]

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-02 21:46 +0800
SubjectRe: [OT]
Message-ID<nb6reb$nmp$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#558434
On 3/2/2016 6:16 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> If there is a lock, there's a key.
>

There is irreversible encryption! :)

-- 
   @~@   Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real!
  / v \  Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
/( _ )\ (Fedora release 23)  Linux 4.4.2-301.fc23.x86_64
   ^ ^   21:48:01 up 23:03 0 users load average: 1.00 1.01 1.05
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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#558784 — Re: [OT]

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-02 18:24 -0800
SubjectRe: [OT]
Message-ID<56D7A069.6A51@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#558553
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> 
> On 3/2/2016 6:16 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > If there is a lock, there's a key.
> >
> 
> There is irreversible encryption! :)


obama is the password.

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#558834 — Re: [OT]

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-02 22:22 -0800
SubjectRe: [OT]
Message-ID<56D7D80A.3E2B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#558553
Peter Trei wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 8:59:31 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > On 3/2/2016 6:16 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > If there is a lock, there's a key.
> 
> Keys can be destroyed.
> The there is a lock, but no key.


Then you call the locksmith...and he'll make you a key.

Let's not forget the definitions of a key...

 a means of gaining or preventing entrance.


You cannot destroy    'means of gaining  entrance'





> 
> > There is irreversible encryption! :)
> 
> If its irreversible, its no longer encryption. There are irreversible
> operations in the cryptographer's tool kit; hashes and digests.
> But they aren't encryption.
> 
> pt

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#558250 — [OT] Go misc.phone.mobile.iphone

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-01 18:58 +0800
Subject[OT] Go misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Message-ID<nb3t67$i9h$10@dont-email.me>
In reply to#556882
On 2/27/2016 1:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>

You might want to raise your questions in a newsgroup called 
"misc.phone.mobile.iphone"!

-- 
   @~@   Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real!
  / v \  Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
/( _ )\ (Fedora release 23)  Linux 4.4.2-301.fc23.x86_64
   ^ ^   19:00:01 up 19 min 0 users load average: 1.00 1.03 0.82
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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