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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2015-12-11 13:56 -0800 |
| Last post | 2015-12-21 13:53 -0800 |
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Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 13:56 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-11 14:02 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 22:39 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 21:38 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-13 12:59 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 15:05 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-13 21:52 +0000
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-13 22:54 +0100
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 02:26 -0500
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-13 18:40 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 08:19 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-14 13:04 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 14:24 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 15:16 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 15:34 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-16 23:15 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-19 09:11 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-19 10:20 -0800
every thing being curved, less or more noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 15:29 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-25 08:48 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-27 23:03 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 18:59 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 16:20 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 18:44 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 17:43 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 18:46 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-11 16:34 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 15:16 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 15:58 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-11 18:40 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-12 17:37 +0100
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 16:40 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 19:06 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 20:49 -0500
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-13 20:41 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 19:06 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 17:43 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 20:26 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-15 14:20 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 14:34 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 13:17 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 13:28 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 18:42 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 19:20 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 09:36 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-20 20:02 +0000
*ha*, what noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 13:53 -0800
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-27 23:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5680DED3.7C7F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #541485 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > And people who come out with using the words 'curve and flat' in the same sentence are dumb: > > > > > > "WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to > > > within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean." > > > > > > Who do you think you're fooling? > > > > > > Let me put it this way... > > > > > > there is no such thing in outer space as '"flat" Euclidean'. > > > > > > God does not play with "flat" Euclidean. > > > > > > A lot of girls got what appears to be a flat butt, but if you look closer...it's curved. > > > > Now I'll explain the center of the universe... > > > > if you blow up a balloon > > you will notice > > the balloon has > > two centers.. > > > > the center is > > in the middle where > > all the air is at.. > > > > and the center of > > the surface where > > you blew the balloon. > > > > Now the earth has > > two centers.. > > > > the middle > > of the earth... > > > > and the center > > on the surface > > of the earth... > > > > it might have > > sealed up by now... > > > > so it might be hard to find.. > > (not that anybody is looking) > > > > The Starmaker > > Or... > > if you draw a circle.. > whether you do it manually > or with a compass... > > it has a beginning > and an end to the > drawing of a circle... > that is the center. > > Might be hard to > detect now in the > universe...with all > that mess up there.. > > hard to see... > hard to spot > hard to detect > hard to idenify > hard to recognize > hard to ..observe > > but it's there. > > The Starmaker it's probably the 'coolest' part of the universe, not the hottest.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 18:59 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <t-2dnRiOhsYVKu3LnZ2dnUU7-acAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #539482 |
On 12/15/15 5:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > a sound, especially one that is loud or unpleasant or that causes > disturbance. Like a big bang! Sounds of the BB > http://faculty.washington.edu/jcramer/BBSound.html > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyJ8Xjllzk > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa2DYSu0E78 -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-16 16:20 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b519bade-c07c-47a6-8c80-82963a846d9f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #539490 |
On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 4:59:56 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 12/15/15 5:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > a sound, especially one that is loud or unpleasant or that causes > > disturbance. Like a big bang! > > > Sounds of the BB > > http://faculty.washington.edu/jcramer/BBSound.html > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyJ8Xjllzk > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa2DYSu0E78 > > > > > > -- > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > community, and physics-related social issues. The two guys got Nobel prizes,and yet at first they thought bird shit got into the wooden horn. They lucked out.Me I have better thinking but no luck.Go figure TreBert
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-16 18:44 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <QMydnRKvwsH_mO_LnZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #539702 |
On 12/16/15 6:20 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > The two guys got Nobel prizes,and yet at first they thought bird shit > got into the wooden horn. They lucked out.Me I have better thinking > but no luck.Go figure TreBert You're drunker than a skunk, reber. Penzias and Wilson DID have to clean pigeon dropping out of their microwave horn antenna. They DID discover the predicted CMB, and analysis of the CMB does show the universe to be flat (Euclidean). -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-16 17:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ea0c4e07-f901-454d-a926-b5f3886ba458@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #539711 |
On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:44:24 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 12/16/15 6:20 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > The two guys got Nobel prizes,and yet at first they thought bird shit > > got into the wooden horn. They lucked out.Me I have better thinking > > but no luck.Go figure TreBert > > > You're drunker than a skunk, reber. Penzias and Wilson DID have to > clean pigeon dropping out of their microwave horn antenna. They DID > discover the predicted CMB, and analysis of the CMB does show the > universe to be flat (Euclidean). > > > > -- > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > community, and physics-related social issues. Sam Skunks do not drink Bud.You are a loony bird to think I drink to get drunk.You are a cross between a loony bird and a parrot.Both have no brains and chirp to the tune of others.Think before you speak,and add thoughts to your life.Bad mouthing you are good at.Thinking is beyond you. Try being nice TreBert
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 18:46 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <t-2dnRmOhsYeKe3LnZ2dnUU7-aednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #539474 |
On 12/15/15 4:24 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > The background is not 'microwave'...it's RADIO waves. Surprise -- Microwaves are in the short end of the radio spectrum > http://planck.caltech.edu/epo/images/COBE_CMB_spectrum.jpg -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-11 16:34 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n4fitn$o6h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #538662 |
On 12/11/2015 3:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > promise?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-11 15:16 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <566B5942.3B06@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #538662 |
The Starmaker wrote:
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> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
i bet you a million doallars Sam Wormley doesn't know..he's probably 'looking it up' right now!
{that's how you get rid of terroists, you gotta keep them on the run...)
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-11 15:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d701e373-f37f-401e-961b-eaf8a82d1bf1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #538662 |
On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 4:56:08 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! Booth! -- Mahipal "IPMM... cross posting only brings bad news, says Sir Mantra Kar|ma>" Original Newsgroups: alt.astronomy,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.arts.sf.written
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| From | gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-11 18:40 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n4fqdr$6kt$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #538662 |
On 12/11/2015 3:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > it is flat, until you get near the edge, then it is curved, I think it curves up last time I looked.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-12-12 17:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2201810.p7QEm3DjEE@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #538693 |
gilber34 wrote: > On 12/11/2015 3:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >> if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > > it is flat, Presumably, yes. So far, measurements show that the observable universe is flat. Unfortunately, we cannot look beyond that, so we have to defer to what geometry, relativity, and quantum mechanics have to say about the rest. > until you get near the edge, There is no edge; a flat universe is implicitly infinite in size. > then it is curved, I think it curves up last time I looked. Sorry to break this to you, but your padded cell is _not_ the universe. F'up2 <news:sci.physics.relativity> PointedEars -- Q: What did the nuclear physicist post on the laboratory door when he went camping? A: 'Gone fission'. (from: WolframAlpha)
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-12 16:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f4836c48-4899-4328-8d17-45dbd7e466e1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #538662 |
On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! How flat is flat? Keep in mind you can;t go in a spaceship from A to B in a straight line.If your spaceship kept going you would come back to the spot you started from.If it sounds like going around the world,it is. So How flat is the world.?Think saddle shape it fits TreBert
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-12 19:06 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <uridndiLTuEyWfHLnZ2dnUU7-b_OydjZ@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #538800 |
On 12/12/15 6:40 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> If your spaceship kept going you would come back to the spot you started from
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The universe is not closed.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-12 20:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <994by.32660$ar.24328@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #538804 |
On 12/12/2015 08:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/12/15 6:40 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
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Hey, Everybody! "professor" Sammy is using his superpowers again to
"prove" the universe is not closed! It's the same superpowers he used to
determine that in spite of global temperatures not going up there is
nevertheless "global warming".
I suggest he should just use the "short form".
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| From | gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-13 20:41 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n4la97$ne2$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #538818 |
On 12/12/2015 7:49 PM, benj wrote:
> On 12/12/2015 08:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 12/12/15 6:40 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
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> Hey, Everybody! "professor" Sammy is using his superpowers again to
> "prove" the universe is not closed! It's the same superpowers he used to
> determine that in spite of global temperatures not going up there is
> nevertheless "global warming".
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> I suggest he should just use the "short form".
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>
the stores *are open* in this part of the universe.
Wiki says universe flat within +- 0.4% error,
so Wormley cannot decide if universe is flat or open, just not closed,
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-13 19:06 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <25075a25-7b4d-4bb5-907a-c8dfb4ca5be7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #538969 |
storing your codec > > Hey, Everybody! "professor" Sammy is using his superpowers again to > > "prove" the universe is not closed! It's the same superpowers he used to > > determine that in spite of global temperatures not going up there is > > nevertheless "global warming". > > > > I suggest he should just use the "short form". > > > > > > > the stores *are open* in this part of the universe. > > Wiki says universe flat within +- 0.4% error, > > so Wormley cannot decide if universe is flat or open, just not closed,
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-14 17:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <761d00e2-e8bc-4ddf-a747-11a3573ac263@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #538800 |
On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 4:40:53 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > > How flat is flat? Keep in mind you can;t go in a spaceship from A to B in a straight line.If your spaceship kept going you would come back to the spot you started from.If it sounds like going around the world,it is. So How flat is the world.?Think saddle shape it fits TreBert The 94% of the universe that is missing has the shape of a SADDLE,and that fits with my CONCAVE & CONVEX Theory. It gives the universe its attraction locally and its acceleration far out. Get the picture TreBert
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-14 20:26 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ivSdne1A88Pd5_LLnZ2dnUU7-QOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #539232 |
On 12/14/15 7:43 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> The 94% of the universe that is missing has the shape of a SADDLE,and
> that fits with my CONCAVE & CONVEX Theory. It gives the universe its
> attraction locally and its acceleration far out. Get the picture
> TreBert
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 14:20 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f7c4d7f8-10fa-4bb0-9619-0f4f405d5898@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #539232 |
On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 5:43:51 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 4:40:53 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > > > > How flat is flat? Keep in mind you can;t go in a spaceship from A to B in a straight line.If your spaceship kept going you would come back to the spot you started from.If it sounds like going around the world,it is. So How flat is the world.?Think saddle shape it fits TreBert > > The 94% of the universe that is missing has the shape of a SADDLE,and that fits with my CONCAVE & CONVEX Theory. It gives the universe its attraction locally and its acceleration far out. Get the picture TreBert I know that the saddle shaped universe used to be a respectable theory, but I think it went out with horses and wagons! Double-A
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 14:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e94a1be2-7cef-4480-a5b7-d35530515471@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #539468 |
On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 2:20:22 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote: > On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 5:43:51 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 4:40:53 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > > > > > > How flat is flat? Keep in mind you can;t go in a spaceship from A to B in a straight line.If your spaceship kept going you would come back to the spot you started from.If it sounds like going around the world,it is. So How flat is the world.?Think saddle shape it fits TreBert > > > > The 94% of the universe that is missing has the shape of a SADDLE,and that fits with my CONCAVE & CONVEX Theory. It gives the universe its attraction locally and its acceleration far out. Get the picture TreBert > > > I know that the saddle shaped universe used to be a respectable theory, but I think it went out with horses and wagons! > > Double-A AA with everything in motion the shapes of universe has to change its shape,and it must get a different shape about every 11 billion years.TreBerrt
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