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Re: Is the universe curved or flat?

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups alt.astronomy, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Is the universe curved or flat?
Followup-To sci.physics.relativity
Date 2015-12-12 17:37 +0100
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
Message-ID <2201810.p7QEm3DjEE@PointedEars.de> (permalink)
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gilber34 wrote:

> On 12/11/2015 3:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
> 
> it is flat,

Presumably, yes.  So far, measurements show that the observable universe is 
flat.  Unfortunately, we cannot look beyond that, so we have to defer to 
what geometry, relativity, and quantum mechanics have to say about the rest.

> until you get near the edge,

There is no edge; a flat universe is implicitly infinite in size.

> then it is curved, I think it curves up last time I looked.

Sorry to break this to you, but your padded cell is _not_ the universe.

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