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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2015-12-11 13:56 -0800 |
| Last post | 2015-12-17 13:28 -0800 |
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Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 13:56 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-11 14:02 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 22:39 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 21:38 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-13 12:59 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 15:05 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-13 21:52 +0000
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-13 22:54 +0100
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 02:26 -0500
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-13 18:40 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-14 13:04 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 14:24 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 15:16 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 15:34 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-16 23:15 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 18:59 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 16:20 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 18:44 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 17:43 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 18:46 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-11 16:34 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 15:16 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 15:58 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-11 18:40 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-12 17:37 +0100
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 16:40 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 19:06 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 20:49 -0500
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-13 20:41 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 19:06 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 17:43 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 20:26 -0600
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-15 14:20 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 14:34 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 13:17 -0800
Re: Is the universe curved or flat? dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 13:28 -0800
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| From | David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-11 16:34 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n4fitn$o6h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #538662 |
On 12/11/2015 3:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > promise?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-11 15:16 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <566B5942.3B06@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #538662 |
The Starmaker wrote:
>
> if you say both, i'll shoot myself!
i bet you a million doallars Sam Wormley doesn't know..he's probably 'looking it up' right now!
{that's how you get rid of terroists, you gotta keep them on the run...)
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-11 15:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d701e373-f37f-401e-961b-eaf8a82d1bf1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #538662 |
On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 4:56:08 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! Booth! -- Mahipal "IPMM... cross posting only brings bad news, says Sir Mantra Kar|ma>" Original Newsgroups: alt.astronomy,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.arts.sf.written
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| From | gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-11 18:40 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n4fqdr$6kt$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #538662 |
On 12/11/2015 3:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > it is flat, until you get near the edge, then it is curved, I think it curves up last time I looked.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-12-12 17:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2201810.p7QEm3DjEE@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #538693 |
gilber34 wrote: > On 12/11/2015 3:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >> if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > > it is flat, Presumably, yes. So far, measurements show that the observable universe is flat. Unfortunately, we cannot look beyond that, so we have to defer to what geometry, relativity, and quantum mechanics have to say about the rest. > until you get near the edge, There is no edge; a flat universe is implicitly infinite in size. > then it is curved, I think it curves up last time I looked. Sorry to break this to you, but your padded cell is _not_ the universe. F'up2 <news:sci.physics.relativity> PointedEars -- Q: What did the nuclear physicist post on the laboratory door when he went camping? A: 'Gone fission'. (from: WolframAlpha)
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-12 16:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f4836c48-4899-4328-8d17-45dbd7e466e1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #538662 |
On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! How flat is flat? Keep in mind you can;t go in a spaceship from A to B in a straight line.If your spaceship kept going you would come back to the spot you started from.If it sounds like going around the world,it is. So How flat is the world.?Think saddle shape it fits TreBert
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-12 19:06 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <uridndiLTuEyWfHLnZ2dnUU7-b_OydjZ@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #538800 |
On 12/12/15 6:40 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> If your spaceship kept going you would come back to the spot you started from
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The universe is not closed.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-12 20:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <994by.32660$ar.24328@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #538804 |
On 12/12/2015 08:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/12/15 6:40 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
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Hey, Everybody! "professor" Sammy is using his superpowers again to
"prove" the universe is not closed! It's the same superpowers he used to
determine that in spite of global temperatures not going up there is
nevertheless "global warming".
I suggest he should just use the "short form".
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| From | gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-13 20:41 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n4la97$ne2$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #538818 |
On 12/12/2015 7:49 PM, benj wrote:
> On 12/12/2015 08:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 12/12/15 6:40 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
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> Hey, Everybody! "professor" Sammy is using his superpowers again to
> "prove" the universe is not closed! It's the same superpowers he used to
> determine that in spite of global temperatures not going up there is
> nevertheless "global warming".
>
> I suggest he should just use the "short form".
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>
the stores *are open* in this part of the universe.
Wiki says universe flat within +- 0.4% error,
so Wormley cannot decide if universe is flat or open, just not closed,
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-13 19:06 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <25075a25-7b4d-4bb5-907a-c8dfb4ca5be7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #538969 |
storing your codec > > Hey, Everybody! "professor" Sammy is using his superpowers again to > > "prove" the universe is not closed! It's the same superpowers he used to > > determine that in spite of global temperatures not going up there is > > nevertheless "global warming". > > > > I suggest he should just use the "short form". > > > > > > > the stores *are open* in this part of the universe. > > Wiki says universe flat within +- 0.4% error, > > so Wormley cannot decide if universe is flat or open, just not closed,
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-14 17:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <761d00e2-e8bc-4ddf-a747-11a3573ac263@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #538800 |
On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 4:40:53 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > > How flat is flat? Keep in mind you can;t go in a spaceship from A to B in a straight line.If your spaceship kept going you would come back to the spot you started from.If it sounds like going around the world,it is. So How flat is the world.?Think saddle shape it fits TreBert The 94% of the universe that is missing has the shape of a SADDLE,and that fits with my CONCAVE & CONVEX Theory. It gives the universe its attraction locally and its acceleration far out. Get the picture TreBert
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-14 20:26 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ivSdne1A88Pd5_LLnZ2dnUU7-QOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #539232 |
On 12/14/15 7:43 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> The 94% of the universe that is missing has the shape of a SADDLE,and
> that fits with my CONCAVE & CONVEX Theory. It gives the universe its
> attraction locally and its acceleration far out. Get the picture
> TreBert
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 14:20 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f7c4d7f8-10fa-4bb0-9619-0f4f405d5898@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #539232 |
On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 5:43:51 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 4:40:53 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > > > > How flat is flat? Keep in mind you can;t go in a spaceship from A to B in a straight line.If your spaceship kept going you would come back to the spot you started from.If it sounds like going around the world,it is. So How flat is the world.?Think saddle shape it fits TreBert > > The 94% of the universe that is missing has the shape of a SADDLE,and that fits with my CONCAVE & CONVEX Theory. It gives the universe its attraction locally and its acceleration far out. Get the picture TreBert I know that the saddle shaped universe used to be a respectable theory, but I think it went out with horses and wagons! Double-A
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 14:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e94a1be2-7cef-4480-a5b7-d35530515471@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #539468 |
On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 2:20:22 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote: > On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 5:43:51 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 4:40:53 PM UTC-8, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > > > > > > How flat is flat? Keep in mind you can;t go in a spaceship from A to B in a straight line.If your spaceship kept going you would come back to the spot you started from.If it sounds like going around the world,it is. So How flat is the world.?Think saddle shape it fits TreBert > > > > The 94% of the universe that is missing has the shape of a SADDLE,and that fits with my CONCAVE & CONVEX Theory. It gives the universe its attraction locally and its acceleration far out. Get the picture TreBert > > > I know that the saddle shaped universe used to be a respectable theory, but I think it went out with horses and wagons! > > Double-A AA with everything in motion the shapes of universe has to change its shape,and it must get a different shape about every 11 billion years.TreBerrt
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-17 13:17 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9e3fb7d0-5892-4920-ab9e-37f6b792a444@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #538662 |
On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > if you say both, i'll shoot myself! Gammor at MIT did the math before BB radiation (2.7) K was discovered.It was on the money.He was like Fermi and me TreBert
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| From | dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-17 13:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ad238fa0-f80a-42c3-aabf-b1bed2938421@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #539914 |
yin verse over uni verse is uni verse over verse out
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