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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2015-12-08 10:23 -0800 |
| Last post | 2015-12-17 22:58 -0800 |
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There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 10:23 -0800
There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 10:51 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 13:04 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:17 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 17:54 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:57 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-08 19:15 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:27 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-09 07:20 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 08:56 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-12-09 15:11 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:38 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:41 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 08:48 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 04:50 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 14:08 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:51 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:54 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 17:00 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 12:35 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 18:52 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 13:01 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-09 22:15 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 15:35 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 21:55 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 15:59 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 22:13 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-09 20:35 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-10 15:33 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 01:20 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-10 08:37 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-09 16:07 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 15:22 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 21:13 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 19:47 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 21:51 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 22:06 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 00:04 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-10 12:32 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 11:29 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 22:02 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-11 07:48 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-11 13:54 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 22:55 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-12 07:54 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 09:16 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-12 19:47 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2015-12-13 09:06 +0100
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 07:01 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 08:53 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:26 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:38 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:40 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:44 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:52 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 17:27 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 12:37 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 18:01 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-09 11:38 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 12:13 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-10 12:30 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 11:26 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 12:56 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-08 17:42 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-12-09 06:42 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-11 22:39 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 19:46 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 22:50 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 09:09 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 12:07 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 15:46 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 00:01 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 08:44 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 05:53 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 09:59 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 22:44 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 08:38 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 16:07 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 18:45 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 15:00 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 15:13 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 18:30 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 17:45 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:47 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:40 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-09 12:26 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 18:03 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 09:52 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-10 16:01 +0000
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2015-12-10 12:03 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-10 13:11 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 15:38 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-11 14:04 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 10:59 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 13:16 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 13:27 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 17:06 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 22:58 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 12:16 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 20:05 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 04:10 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 12:55 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 15:06 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 13:58 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 00:25 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 00:23 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 20:28 -0500
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 09:24 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 09:27 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 11:32 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 10:41 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 12:43 -0600
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 16:11 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 16:28 -0800
Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 22:58 -0800
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| From | David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-10 12:30 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n4cg81$j8g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #538274 |
On 12/9/2015 2:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > David Staup wrote: >> >> On 12/8/2015 1:04 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: >>> On 12/8/15 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> "There Is No Edge To The Universe". >>>> How many times have you heard that? >>> >>> >>> It is not the number of times you hear it that makes it so, >>> but the consistency between observations and theory that >>> make "no edge" logical and compelling. >>> >>> >>> >> So just so we're clear here >> >> where is that consistency in your climate theories? >> >> only idiots will debate other idiots >> >> and more often than not expose their idiocy such as you did here >> >> Hoisted by your own petard.... Karma at its very best > > > "Karma"??? Is that like 'a force' that travels in the air like a boomberang???? Comes alllllll theeee wayyyyyyyy around and hits you on the head, is that right? > > > I once did a test and observation on "Karma", doesn't work, it's wrong..whatever you think it is, it's wrong, doesn't work. There is no Karma. > Did you miss the part where I implied "I don't debate with idiots" chuckle another idiot that is also a dumb-fuck
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-10 11:26 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5669D1DB.727@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #538452 |
David Staup wrote: > > On 12/9/2015 2:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > David Staup wrote: > >> > >> On 12/8/2015 1:04 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > >>> On 12/8/15 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > >>>> How many times have you heard that? > >>> > >>> > >>> It is not the number of times you hear it that makes it so, > >>> but the consistency between observations and theory that > >>> make "no edge" logical and compelling. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> So just so we're clear here > >> > >> where is that consistency in your climate theories? > >> > >> only idiots will debate other idiots > >> > >> and more often than not expose their idiocy such as you did here > >> > >> Hoisted by your own petard.... Karma at its very best > > > > > > "Karma"??? Is that like 'a force' that travels in the air like a boomberang???? Comes alllllll theeee wayyyyyyyy around and hits you on the head, is that right? > > > > > > I once did a test and observation on "Karma", doesn't work, it's wrong..whatever you think it is, it's wrong, doesn't work. There is no Karma. > > > Did you miss the part where I implied "I don't debate with idiots" > > chuckle another idiot that is also a dumb-fuck When you pull the curtain to look out your window...how many idiots do you see out there????
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-10 12:56 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5669E6E3.5CC7@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #538452 |
David Staup wrote: > > On 12/9/2015 2:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > David Staup wrote: > >> > >> On 12/8/2015 1:04 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > >>> On 12/8/15 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > >>>> How many times have you heard that? > >>> > >>> > >>> It is not the number of times you hear it that makes it so, > >>> but the consistency between observations and theory that > >>> make "no edge" logical and compelling. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> So just so we're clear here > >> > >> where is that consistency in your climate theories? > >> > >> only idiots will debate other idiots > >> > >> and more often than not expose their idiocy such as you did here > >> > >> Hoisted by your own petard.... Karma at its very best > > > > > > "Karma"??? Is that like 'a force' that travels in the air like a boomberang???? Comes alllllll theeee wayyyyyyyy around and hits you on the head, is that right? > > > > > > I once did a test and observation on "Karma", doesn't work, it's wrong..whatever you think it is, it's wrong, doesn't work. There is no Karma. > > > Did you miss the part where I implied "I don't debate with idiots" > > chuckle another idiot that is also a dumb-fuck I mean, I'm just tryin to understand this thing you brouhgt up called "Karma". What's the physics behind it? What kind of force is it? How does it go around and ...come around ..back? I just don't understand it. I don't even understand the kind of people who believe in...Karma! Is it religious?? I once threw a ball against the wall and it came back and hit me on the head...is that it? Is that Karma at its very best? Help me out with this... is it an electro-magenetic force, or a electro-gravity force??? what kind of force is it???? maybe i hit the nail on the head...it's some kind of force that what goes up must come down or back around, with a touch of magnetic electic gravity...is that it, am i a fuckin genuis or what?
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| From | Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-08 17:42 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <23a42$566786c7$453ebb0b$15481@EVERESTKC.NET> |
| In reply to | #538029 |
"The Starmaker" wrote in message news:56672006.3AA7@ix.netcom.com... "There Is No Edge To The Universe". How many times have you heard that? << snip imaginary endless space >> *** So, there's a brick wall out there somewhere, with a sign saying something like "do not trespass under penalty of eternal hell damnation" ??? There is nothing out there, Starfaker and it goes on for all eternity.
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| From | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| Date | 2015-12-09 06:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n4942g$49f$1@panix2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #538118 |
In article <23a42$566786c7$453ebb0b$15481@EVERESTKC.NET>, =?iso-8859-1?B?SORnYXI=?= <hsahm@yahoo.com> said: > *** So, there's a brick wall out there somewhere, with a sign saying > something like "do not trespass under penalty of eternal hell > damnation" ??? The standard joke is that there's a wall and if you put your ear to it you can hear a really good party going on on the other side. -- wds
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| From | David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-11 22:39 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <VdidnS2TbLlmOfbLnZ2dnUU7-XmdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #538184 |
On 2015-12-09, William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote: >=?iso-8859-1?B?SORnYXI=?= <hsahm@yahoo.com> said: >> *** So, there's a brick wall out there somewhere, with a sign saying >> something like "do not trespass under penalty of eternal hell damnation" ??? > > The standard joke is that there's a wall and if you put your ear to > it you can hear a really good party going on on the other side. Is this where we entice Quadliboc to watch Behind the Green Door on youtube? Dave, dn pua s!yL -- \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/ -net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-08 19:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5667A40D.4C3F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #538029 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > > How many times have you heard that? > > It seems... > there is a small group of people.. > in the 'scientific community'.. > there is this ..belief or opinion, that > "There is no edge to the universe". > > They, go as far as telling everyone > "There is no edge to the universe". > > They will get together > and come up with > all kinds of explanations, > and numbers, to Why and How > "There is no edge to the universe". > > It's like a mantra. > "There is no edge to the universe" > "There is no edge to the universe" > "There is no edge to the universe" > > And if you disagree with them... > they will have you shot! > > So, why the mantra? > > Who discovered that there > is no edge to the universe? > > Did they send Columbus to look?? > > They will have you believe that > the universe is infinite. That is just > a ploy to have you believe... > "There is no edge to the universe". > > Get it? It's a con! > > con > kän/ > > 1. > persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception. > > noun > noun: con; plural noun: cons > > 1. > an instance of deceiving or tricking someone. > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people > from trying to convince everyone that > there is no edge to the universe? > > Why are they trying to deceive you? > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it. > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. Keep in mind... that the question is not, whether or not there is an edge to the universe.. the question is, Why the insistence by the 'scientific community' that "There is no edge to the universe"? The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-08 22:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5667CF3A.6B9A@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #538139 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > > > > How many times have you heard that? > > > > It seems... > > there is a small group of people.. > > in the 'scientific community'.. > > there is this ..belief or opinion, that > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > They, go as far as telling everyone > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > They will get together > > and come up with > > all kinds of explanations, > > and numbers, to Why and How > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > It's like a mantra. > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > And if you disagree with them... > > they will have you shot! > > > > So, why the mantra? > > > > Who discovered that there > > is no edge to the universe? > > > > Did they send Columbus to look?? > > > > They will have you believe that > > the universe is infinite. That is just > > a ploy to have you believe... > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > Get it? It's a con! > > > > con > > kän/ > > > > 1. > > persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception. > > > > noun > > noun: con; plural noun: cons > > > > 1. > > an instance of deceiving or tricking someone. > > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people > > from trying to convince everyone that > > there is no edge to the universe? > > > > Why are they trying to deceive you? > > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it. > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > the unchallengeable. > > Keep in mind... > that the question is not, > whether or not > there is an edge > to the universe.. > > the question is, > Why the insistence > by the 'scientific community' that > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. ...i don't want to go off topic but... it goes the same mantra for "There Is No Center To The Universe" not like if there is a human today capable of figuring out how to see the center.... tools not yet invented...but it's a con neverless to say ...There Is No Center To The Universe or There Is No Edge To The Universe. The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today. the question is... Why the insistence by the 'scientific community' to tell everyone.. "There is no edge to the universe"? Why? The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-09 09:09 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <WOWdnbD325fd2fXLnZ2dnUU7-IWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #538167 |
On 12/9/15 12:50 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today. Thank goodness that the professors expose their students to the hard data of observation and experiment. And teach the students the tools of mathematics and physics. Classical Mechanics is a excellent prerequisite for advance courses. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-09 12:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56688A19.1BFF@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #538167 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > > > > > > How many times have you heard that? > > > > > > It seems... > > > there is a small group of people.. > > > in the 'scientific community'.. > > > there is this ..belief or opinion, that > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > They, go as far as telling everyone > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > They will get together > > > and come up with > > > all kinds of explanations, > > > and numbers, to Why and How > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > It's like a mantra. > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > > > And if you disagree with them... > > > they will have you shot! > > > > > > So, why the mantra? > > > > > > Who discovered that there > > > is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > Did they send Columbus to look?? > > > > > > They will have you believe that > > > the universe is infinite. That is just > > > a ploy to have you believe... > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > Get it? It's a con! > > > > > > con > > > kän/ > > > > > > 1. > > > persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception. > > > > > > noun > > > noun: con; plural noun: cons > > > > > > 1. > > > an instance of deceiving or tricking someone. > > > > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people > > > from trying to convince everyone that > > > there is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > Why are they trying to deceive you? > > > > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it. > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > Keep in mind... > > that the question is not, > > whether or not > > there is an edge > > to the universe.. > > > > the question is, > > Why the insistence > > by the 'scientific community' that > > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > the unchallengeable. > > ...i don't want to go off topic but... > it goes the same mantra for "There Is No Center To The Universe" > > not like if there is a human today capable of figuring out how to see the center.... > tools not yet invented...but it's a con neverless to say ...There Is No Center To The Universe > > or There Is No Edge To The Universe. > > The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today. > > the question is... > Why the insistence > by the 'scientific community' > to tell everyone.. > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > Why? > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. I'll tell you Why... it is a pattern with 'these people', (the 'scientific community') When they say..."There is no...." it means you are not suppose to question it any further. When they say "There Is No Edge To The Universe".. they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is an edge. If they say "There is no Before." they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a before. If they say "There Is No Center To The Universe".. they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a center of the universe. The truth is...they don't know where the fuck the center is at! They don't even know how to fuckin look for it. They don't have the tools to look for it. And they don't want you to ask anymore. And if you dare ask...they'll fuckin shoot you! The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-09 15:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5668BD6D.33EC@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #538273 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > > > > > > > > How many times have you heard that? > > > > > > > > It seems... > > > > there is a small group of people.. > > > > in the 'scientific community'.. > > > > there is this ..belief or opinion, that > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > They, go as far as telling everyone > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > They will get together > > > > and come up with > > > > all kinds of explanations, > > > > and numbers, to Why and How > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > It's like a mantra. > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > > > > > And if you disagree with them... > > > > they will have you shot! > > > > > > > > So, why the mantra? > > > > > > > > Who discovered that there > > > > is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > > > Did they send Columbus to look?? > > > > > > > > They will have you believe that > > > > the universe is infinite. That is just > > > > a ploy to have you believe... > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > Get it? It's a con! > > > > > > > > con > > > > kän/ > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception. > > > > > > > > noun > > > > noun: con; plural noun: cons > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > an instance of deceiving or tricking someone. > > > > > > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people > > > > from trying to convince everyone that > > > > there is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > > > Why are they trying to deceive you? > > > > > > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it. > > > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > > > Keep in mind... > > > that the question is not, > > > whether or not > > > there is an edge > > > to the universe.. > > > > > > the question is, > > > Why the insistence > > > by the 'scientific community' that > > > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > ...i don't want to go off topic but... > > it goes the same mantra for "There Is No Center To The Universe" > > > > not like if there is a human today capable of figuring out how to see the center.... > > tools not yet invented...but it's a con neverless to say ...There Is No Center To The Universe > > > > or There Is No Edge To The Universe. > > > > The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today. > > > > the question is... > > Why the insistence > > by the 'scientific community' > > to tell everyone.. > > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > > > Why? > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > the unchallengeable. > > I'll tell you Why... > > it is a pattern with 'these people', (the 'scientific community') > > When they say..."There is no...." > > it means you are not suppose to question it any further. > > When they say "There Is No Edge To The Universe".. > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is an edge. > > If they say "There is no Before." > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a before. > > If they say "There Is No Center To The Universe".. > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a center of the universe. > > The truth is...they don't know where the fuck the center is at! They don't even know how to > fuckin look for it. They don't have the tools to look for it. And they don't want you to ask anymore. > > And if you dare ask...they'll fuckin shoot you! > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. lemme put it differently... the 'scientific community' has a choice...either to say, "There Is No Edge To The Universe" or to say "There Is An Edge To The Universe" if they choose the latter.. then everybody would be asking... "What is on the other side of the edge????" To avoid having to answer questions they have no answers too, they decided to say... "There Is No Edge To The Universe, Motherfucker"! The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 00:01 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <566FC8EA.DD6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #538326 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe". > > > > > > > > > > How many times have you heard that? > > > > > > > > > > It seems... > > > > > there is a small group of people.. > > > > > in the 'scientific community'.. > > > > > there is this ..belief or opinion, that > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > > > They, go as far as telling everyone > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > > > They will get together > > > > > and come up with > > > > > all kinds of explanations, > > > > > and numbers, to Why and How > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > > > It's like a mantra. > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe" > > > > > > > > > > And if you disagree with them... > > > > > they will have you shot! > > > > > > > > > > So, why the mantra? > > > > > > > > > > Who discovered that there > > > > > is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > > > > > Did they send Columbus to look?? > > > > > > > > > > They will have you believe that > > > > > the universe is infinite. That is just > > > > > a ploy to have you believe... > > > > > "There is no edge to the universe". > > > > > > > > > > Get it? It's a con! > > > > > > > > > > con > > > > > kän/ > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception. > > > > > > > > > > noun > > > > > noun: con; plural noun: cons > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > an instance of deceiving or tricking someone. > > > > > > > > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people > > > > > from trying to convince everyone that > > > > > there is no edge to the universe? > > > > > > > > > > Why are they trying to deceive you? > > > > > > > > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it. > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > > > > > Keep in mind... > > > > that the question is not, > > > > whether or not > > > > there is an edge > > > > to the universe.. > > > > > > > > the question is, > > > > Why the insistence > > > > by the 'scientific community' that > > > > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > > > ...i don't want to go off topic but... > > > it goes the same mantra for "There Is No Center To The Universe" > > > > > > not like if there is a human today capable of figuring out how to see the center.... > > > tools not yet invented...but it's a con neverless to say ...There Is No Center To The Universe > > > > > > or There Is No Edge To The Universe. > > > > > > The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today. > > > > > > the question is... > > > Why the insistence > > > by the 'scientific community' > > > to tell everyone.. > > > "There is no edge to the universe"? > > > > > > Why? > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > I'll tell you Why... > > > > it is a pattern with 'these people', (the 'scientific community') > > > > When they say..."There is no...." > > > > it means you are not suppose to question it any further. > > > > When they say "There Is No Edge To The Universe".. > > > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is an edge. > > > > If they say "There is no Before." > > > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a before. > > > > If they say "There Is No Center To The Universe".. > > > > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a center of the universe. > > > > The truth is...they don't know where the fuck the center is at! They don't even know how to > > fuckin look for it. They don't have the tools to look for it. And they don't want you to ask anymore. > > > > And if you dare ask...they'll fuckin shoot you! > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > the unchallengeable. > > lemme put it differently... > > the 'scientific community' has > a choice...either to say, > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe" > > or to say > > "There Is An Edge To The Universe" > > if they choose the latter.. > > then everybody would be asking... > > "What is on the other side of the edge????" > > To avoid having to answer questions they have no answers too, > they decided to say... > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe, Motherfucker"! > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. Okay...yous seem to be having trouble...picturing an edge to the universe. How about... take the Universe.. the whole Universe.. what I mean is the entire Universe and everyhting that is contain in it. Everything in the entire universe that is contained in it. From top to bottom. From one edge of the entire universe to the other side of the entire universe. The whole shabam! Eveything in it!! Everything contained in it. 'contained in it.' contained in
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 08:44 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <CIednapTN82tuu3LnZ2dnUU7-XWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #539290 |
On 12/15/15 2:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > Okay...yous seem to be having trouble...picturing an edge to the > universe. And rightly so, as there is no edge. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-17 05:53 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5e655289-15aa-4388-82f6-66399ce3e719@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #539337 |
And rightly so, as there is no edge -------- Well, there is an 'edge' to the universe. But it is a relativistic edge since it is expanding at almost light speed. For us this means no observable edge, yet still an edge
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-17 09:59 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <dLadncORXrtzRu_LnZ2dnUU7-LednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #539795 |
On 12/17/15 7:53 AM, HVAC wrote:
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> And rightly so, as there is no edge
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> Well, there is an 'edge' to the universe. But it is a relativistic edge since it is expanding at almost light speed. For us this means no observable edge, yet still an edge
>
I can ride my bike about 100 miles in a day, so a circle with radius
100 miles has an edge. What's and edge and what's not an edge is in
the mind of the beholder.
As far as the observable universe goes, no matter where you are
in it, you can see out to a radius defined as the time light has had
to travel--always changing, and different content for every observer.
No Center
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html
Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html
WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html
WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-15 22:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5671083C.135D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #539290 |
David DeLaney wrote: > > On 2015-12-15, Stephen Allcroft <stephenallcroft@lycos.co.uk> wrote: > > Starmaker wants an end to the universe. He's looking in the spacial > > dimensions. He won't find it there. It's the other dimension where the end is > > going to be. > > so i hear you saying > TIME MUST HAVE A STOP! > ? > > Dave, will callback for food > -- > \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower > It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see > Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> > http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/ -net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K. Well of course Time must have a stop... Time stops every second, and then it stars again. Eventually, Time will begin to unwind... and when no one wounds the clock..Time will stop.. just about the time it reaches the edge.. just in time. Beyond the edge there is no time.. as there was no time before the begining. The Timemaker It's not tick tock, it's tic, tic, tic...tic.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-16 08:38 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mtWdnVEkxqL86uzLnZ2dnUU7-f-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #539544 |
On 12/16/15 12:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Time stops every second, and then it stars again.
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-16 16:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <028c55bd-0f02-47be-a345-891aa171b39f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #539582 |
On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 6:38:31 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 12/16/15 12:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Time stops every second, and then it stars again. > > > ## # > ## # > ######################################### > ######################################### > ## ###### > ## ########## > ############ > ############## > ############# > ############# > ############## > ############# > ############## > ############# > ############## > ############# # > ############# # > ######################################### > ######################################### > # > > ######## > ############### > ################## > ##################### > #### #### > ## ## > ## ## > ## ## > ## ### > ## ## > #### #### > ##################### > ################## > ############### > ######## > > > -- > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics > community, and physics-related social issues. Only stuff at the area our universe can conceivably have a fringy edge has to be made of photons and nuetrinos thinning out to absolute zero F. TreBert
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-16 18:45 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <QMydnQ2vwsElmO_LnZ2dnUU7-QkAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #539697 |
On 12/16/15 6:07 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-17 15:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56733E8C.C68@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #539582 |
Sam Wormley wrote: > > On 12/16/15 12:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Time stops every second, and then it stars again. In other words... you can take a simple camera and capture.. a moment in time. A Kodak Moment. Or, you can take a movie camera and watch the world go by one frame at a time. If you can slow down a ...tic to a point where the next tic does not tic... time stops. Have you ever listen to a clock's last tic? Does it slow down before the last tic, or does it just stop ticking?? Where's Einstein, i gotta ask him..see what he says... He's probably say..."GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!!" Then I'll have to tell him, "You fuckin commie!!"
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