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| First post | 2015-11-20 17:45 -0600 |
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Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 17:45 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 16:09 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 20:51 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 22:02 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-20 23:48 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 10:27 +0100
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 05:13 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 12:57 +0100
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:44 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 20:01 +0100
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:17 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 20:01 +0100
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:22 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 11:18 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:26 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 11:33 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:32 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-21 12:01 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 12:24 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 12:54 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:36 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-21 13:43 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:57 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-21 15:26 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-11-21 23:01 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 17:07 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-21 15:27 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 15:58 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-21 17:16 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 17:32 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 00:58 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-21 23:27 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:40 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:01 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-22 12:45 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 00:47 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:43 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 08:05 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Jack Monaco <jacksh@umbertopal.org> - 2015-11-21 14:18 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:48 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-23 10:21 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-23 17:34 +0100
Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 08:44 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 13:02 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 11:31 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 15:54 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 13:43 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 16:49 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 16:17 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 13:54 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-24 16:52 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-24 22:24 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-21 06:43 -0500
Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 13:45 -0500
Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". "Notroll2015" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-11-21 12:51 -0600
Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". Edward Stansfield <stansfield5REM6@linuxmail.org> - 2015-11-21 14:11 -0500
Re: There's nothing special about the start of "the big bang". benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:51 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 11:27 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 16:42 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 17:01 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-21 21:16 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Gatuzo <Gatuzo@gallaxial.com> - 2015-11-22 00:23 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 01:20 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 01:18 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:06 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 06:36 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 00:54 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-21 20:37 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-21 21:06 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-22 11:43 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 09:01 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-22 14:59 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-22 14:02 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 16:32 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-22 22:52 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-23 10:51 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-24 17:07 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-24 22:48 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-24 21:47 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-25 10:32 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 09:47 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-25 23:31 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 21:36 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-26 14:22 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-26 14:27 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-26 17:34 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-01 21:52 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-25 09:59 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 11:16 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 08:40 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-25 11:02 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Jack Monaco <jacksh@umbBertopal.org> - 2015-11-25 17:37 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-25 18:47 +0100
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Jack Monaco <jacksh@umbBertopal.org> - 2015-11-25 18:11 +0000
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 10:06 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 14:04 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-25 17:50 +0100
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 10:01 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 14:05 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 12:42 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-25 13:18 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-01 22:16 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 08:31 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 08:11 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 10:21 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 09:23 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 10:19 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 16:35 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 14:51 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 17:30 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 18:16 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 20:23 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 21:23 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 21:31 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 09:25 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 12:03 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 14:50 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 16:43 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-03 17:12 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 17:35 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 19:36 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 22:40 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 23:10 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 07:45 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-04 13:13 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-04 21:31 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-04 23:17 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-05 00:04 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-05 17:28 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-05 23:14 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-05 12:14 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-05 18:08 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-06 17:50 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-06 20:04 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 07:39 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 15:09 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-07 21:50 +0100
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 19:33 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 10:34 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 13:26 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 14:49 -0500
Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 09:21 -0600
Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-02 22:01 -0800
Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 23:04 -0800
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-20 17:45 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Where is the center of the universe? |
| Message-ID | <SvydnRLtaes8LdLLnZ2dnUU7-KudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
> On 2/8/15 3:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Where is the center of the universe?
>
No Center
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html
Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html
WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html
WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html
--
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-20 16:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <518a5c25-421f-4852-962a-365a696be14e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534295 |
Many unimaginative and small minded people (no named but his initials are BJ) cannot grasp the concept of infinity. This makes many other concepts such as the center of the universe, very difficult to explain. Fortunately most of these people are old and will be dead soon. Huzzah
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-20 20:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <w6Q3y.90768$qL.29196@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #534304 |
On 11/20/2015 07:09 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Many unimaginative and small minded people (no named but his initials are BJ) cannot grasp the concept of infinity. This makes many other concepts such as the center of the universe, very difficult to explain. Fortunately most of these people are old and will be dead soon.
>
> Huzzah
Hows the blood flow in your neck, H&V? Slowing down I hope.
Anyone who believes in infinity is ignorant beyond any doubt.
There is NO such real thing as "infinity". Nothing infinite (Save HVAC's
ignorance) exists in the real world. In HVAC's fantasies, however,
ANYTHING he imagines he thinks exists. This is the pure definition of
insanity.
Let some of the other patients in the ward use the computer, Harlow.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-20 22:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <c9R3y.83572$dc2.41595@fx24.iad> |
| In reply to | #534304 |
On 11/20/2015 07:09 PM, HVAC wrote:
> Many unimaginative and small minded people (no named but his initials
> are BJ) cannot grasp the concept of infinity. This makes many other
> concepts such as the center of the universe, very difficult to
> explain. Fortunately most of these people are old and will be dead
> soon.
>
> Huzzah
You are as ignorant of science as any Lib out there. The center of the
universe has NOTHING to do with imaginary "infinity" which you obviously
have zero understanding of. The center of the universe is the center of
the n-D hypersphere which comprises our space (which is curved (not by
gravity, you moron) but by the curvature of the hypersphere. You can't
explain any of this because you are far too ignorant and uneducated.
It's like Herb trying to explain it.
Give the other patients time on the ward computer.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-20 23:48 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <565021C7.2111@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #534295 |
Sam Wormley wrote: > > > On 2/8/15 3:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Where is the center of the universe? > > > > No Center > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html > > Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html > > WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory > http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html > > WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology > http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html The center of the universe can be found in a number of ways... The brightest star in the universe is where the center of the universe... Is is exactly in the center of the universe. You can draw a line from top to bottom and across and you found the exact center... only problem is the 'scientific community' haven't discovered it yet. I give them another thousand years...
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 10:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n2pda8$hvk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #534333 |
Dne 21/11/2015 v 08:48 The Starmaker napsal(a): > > The center of the universe can be found in a number of ways... > > > The brightest star in the universe is where the center of the > universe... Bright star life is very short, few million years at the best, and there are many billions of very bright stars. So the centre is here... No - here.. No - here. ..... Then..where ? :-) > > > Is is exactly in the center of the universe. You can draw a line from > top > to bottom and across and you found the exact center... Which directions is the bottom of universe ? :-) -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 05:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <DtX3y.63144$NM.53995@fx22.iad> |
| In reply to | #534335 |
On 11/21/2015 04:27 AM, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 21/11/2015 v 08:48 The Starmaker napsal(a):
>
>>
>> The center of the universe can be found in a number of ways...
>>
>>
>> The brightest star in the universe is where the center of the
>> universe...
>
> Bright star life is very short,
> few million years at the best,
> and there are many billions of very bright stars.
>
> So the centre is here... No - here.. No - here. .....
> Then..where ? :-)
Pooter, just choose two points. Construct normals to those points and
where those lines cross is the center of the universe. Simple geometry.
>> Is is exactly in the center of the universe. You can draw a line from
>> top
>> to bottom and across and you found the exact center...
>
> Which directions is the bottom of universe ? :-)
Universe has no bottom, Pooter. To have a bottom one would have to know
which way is "up'. You don't know this.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 12:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n2pm2d$eel$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #534341 |
Dne 21/11/2015 v 11:13 benj napsal(a): > On 11/21/2015 04:27 AM, Poutnik wrote: >> >> Bright star life is very short, >> few million years at the best, >> and there are many billions of very bright stars. >> >> So the centre is here... No - here.. No - here. ..... >> Then..where ? :-) > > Pooter, just choose two points. Construct normals to those points and > where those lines cross is the center of the universe. Simple geometry. Dear Booter, different points will provide different centers, if ever any. There is no center. >> Which directions is the bottom of universe ? :-) > > Universe has no bottom, Pooter. To have a bottom one would have to know > which way is "up'. You don't know this. Dear Booter, I have not said there is. You have not got, or yuo may pretend you have not got that my question was raised in ironic context. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 13:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nY24y.148148$M%.146483@fx20.iad> |
| In reply to | #534345 |
On 11/21/2015 06:57 AM, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 21/11/2015 v 11:13 benj napsal(a):
>> On 11/21/2015 04:27 AM, Poutnik wrote:
>>>
>>> Bright star life is very short,
>>> few million years at the best,
>>> and there are many billions of very bright stars.
>>>
>>> So the centre is here... No - here.. No - here. .....
>>> Then..where ? :-)
>>
>> Pooter, just choose two points. Construct normals to those points and
>> where those lines cross is the center of the universe. Simple geometry.
>
> Dear Booter,
> different points will provide different centers, if ever any.
> There is no center.
And the reference to the actual measurements that prove it is where?
All you are doing is what EVERYONE in "cosmology" does: You are simply
guessing and then telling everyone what you say is true.
>>> Which directions is the bottom of universe ? :-)
>>
>> Universe has no bottom, Pooter. To have a bottom one would have to know
>> which way is "up'. You don't know this.
>
> Dear Booter,
> I have not said there is.
Correct. I was speaking to the OP, and I got your name in there by
mistake because we LOVE you!
> You have not got, or yuo may pretend you have not got
> that my question was raised in ironic context.
We love ya, Pooter!
The TRUTH about the "center of the universe being everywhere" is that
for that to be true, it REQUIRES that one have a multidimensional
universe! (Unless the center be located in our 3D space and experiment
shows it is not) Now science never being one to have a shortage of
fantasy and doublethink asserts that the center IS "everywhere" but at
the same time multidimensionality is not true. The key is to never let
these mutually exclusive ideas touch each other and you will be fine.
That is termed "DoubleThink" in the jargon of modern life.
All the talk about "infinity" which is a total fantasy is nothing but
more fantasy. Nothing is "infinite" save human stupidity. We have that
on excellent authority.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 20:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n2qet2$f11$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #534378 |
Dne 21/11/2015 v 19:44 benj napsal(a): > On 11/21/2015 06:57 AM, Poutnik wrote: >> Dne 21/11/2015 v 11:13 benj napsal(a): >>> On 11/21/2015 04:27 AM, Poutnik wrote: >>>> >>>> Bright star life is very short, >>>> few million years at the best, >>>> and there are many billions of very bright stars. >>>> >>>> So the centre is here... No - here.. No - here. ..... >>>> Then..where ? :-) >>> >>> Pooter, just choose two points. Construct normals to those points and >>> where those lines cross is the center of the universe. Simple geometry. >> >> Dear Booter, >> different points will provide different centers, if ever any. >> There is no center. > > And the reference to the actual measurements that prove it is where? > > All you are doing is what EVERYONE in "cosmology" does: You are simply > guessing and then telling everyone what you say is true. You were guessing the first, and the guess was wrong even without measuring.. :-) -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 14:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6r34y.96008$TJ2.69995@fx21.iad> |
| In reply to | #534384 |
On 11/21/2015 02:01 PM, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 21/11/2015 v 19:44 benj napsal(a):
>> On 11/21/2015 06:57 AM, Poutnik wrote:
>>> Dne 21/11/2015 v 11:13 benj napsal(a):
>>>> On 11/21/2015 04:27 AM, Poutnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bright star life is very short,
>>>>> few million years at the best,
>>>>> and there are many billions of very bright stars.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the centre is here... No - here.. No - here. .....
>>>>> Then..where ? :-)
>>>>
>>>> Pooter, just choose two points. Construct normals to those points and
>>>> where those lines cross is the center of the universe. Simple geometry.
>>>
>>> Dear Booter,
>>> different points will provide different centers, if ever any.
>>> There is no center.
>>
>> And the reference to the actual measurements that prove it is where?
>>
>> All you are doing is what EVERYONE in "cosmology" does: You are simply
>> guessing and then telling everyone what you say is true.
>
> You were guessing the first,
> and the guess was wrong even without measuring.. :-)
How can you say I guessed wrong (I DID say EVERYONE...includes me...was
guessing) if you can't supply the data to show it?
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 20:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n2qeuf$f11$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #534378 |
Dne 21/11/2015 v 19:44 benj napsal(a): > On 11/21/2015 06:57 AM, Poutnik wrote: >> Dne 21/11/2015 v 11:13 benj napsal(a): >>> On 11/21/2015 04:27 AM, Poutnik wrote: >>>> >>>> Bright star life is very short, >>>> few million years at the best, >>>> and there are many billions of very bright stars. >>>> >>>> So the centre is here... No - here.. No - here. ..... >>>> Then..where ? :-) >>> >>> Pooter, just choose two points. Construct normals to those points and >>> where those lines cross is the center of the universe. Simple geometry. >> >> Dear Booter, >> different points will provide different centers, if ever any. >> There is no center. > > And the reference to the actual measurements that prove it is where? > > All you are doing is what EVERYONE in "cosmology" does: You are simply > guessing and then telling everyone what you say is true. > You were guessing the first, and it was a wrong guess. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 14:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <Zv34y.129271$4M.5053@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #534385 |
On 11/21/2015 02:01 PM, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 21/11/2015 v 19:44 benj napsal(a):
>> On 11/21/2015 06:57 AM, Poutnik wrote:
>>> Dne 21/11/2015 v 11:13 benj napsal(a):
>>>> On 11/21/2015 04:27 AM, Poutnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bright star life is very short,
>>>>> few million years at the best,
>>>>> and there are many billions of very bright stars.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the centre is here... No - here.. No - here. .....
>>>>> Then..where ? :-)
>>>>
>>>> Pooter, just choose two points. Construct normals to those points and
>>>> where those lines cross is the center of the universe. Simple geometry.
>>>
>>> Dear Booter,
>>> different points will provide different centers, if ever any.
>>> There is no center.
>>
>> And the reference to the actual measurements that prove it is where?
>>
>> All you are doing is what EVERYONE in "cosmology" does: You are simply
>> guessing and then telling everyone what you say is true.
>>
> You were guessing the first, and it was a wrong guess.
Being "wrong" has no basis in fact. It is merely you making a guess and
telling everyone that your guess is "true". Where is the data. Hell,
Pooter, where is your THEORY? Show how it's possible for your universe
guess to have no center. You are NOT allowed to invoke "infinity" or any
other mathematical fantasy. Those are not real! They do NOT exist.
Now imagine this: The universe is an immense sphere. Where is the center
of that "universe"? If you look for the "center" anywhere on the surface
of the sphere you come up empty. That is because the center is not
located in your space! Get it? No "infinity" required.
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| From | "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 11:18 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <75abe5ae-cb5e-43ef-8f75-08f858d65b17@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534378 |
On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 10:44:39 AM UTC-8, benj wrote: > > All the talk about "infinity" which is a total fantasy is nothing but > more fantasy. Nothing is "infinite" save human stupidity. We have that > on excellent authority. > Numbers are infinite. The Universe as a set of things contains itself. This is where the physical Universe would be the same as the logical universe or domain of discourse. Some then would have a set theory as foundational, here that the "domain principle" in set theory (Mengenlehre) is that the universe exists. The poly- and pan-dimensional is about an SU^N gauge theory. Here "N" is the complete set of natural integers, that would be an infinite natural integer. That's an opinion that follows from first principles in logic. That is to say, there is a sur- rounds of mathematical proof to so establish that, vis a vis our usual (and sole) scientific means of the establishment of non- contradicted scientific fact (fact that the hypothesis isn't invalidated, by any given datum of experiment and all of them). So, mathematical physics needs more or better mathematics of infinity as to have suitable models for the unbounded and infinite in nature, and as well the vanishing and infinitesimal. This then is about total and point effects, about the global and local, in the universal and nullary (read "void").
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 14:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <fz34y.128625$yo1.34257@fx23.iad> |
| In reply to | #534391 |
On 11/21/2015 02:18 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 10:44:39 AM UTC-8, benj wrote:
>>
>> All the talk about "infinity" which is a total fantasy is nothing but
>> more fantasy. Nothing is "infinite" save human stupidity. We have that
>> on excellent authority.
>>
>
> Numbers are infinite.
Numbers are NOT real. Numbers are fantasy as is everything else that is
"infinite".
> The Universe as a set of
> things contains itself.
>
> This is where the physical
> Universe would be the same
> as the logical universe or
> domain of discourse. Some
> then would have a set theory
> as foundational, here that
> the "domain principle" in
> set theory (Mengenlehre) is
> that the universe exists.
>
> The poly- and pan-dimensional
> is about an SU^N gauge theory.
>
> Here "N" is the complete set
> of natural integers, that would
> be an infinite natural integer.
> That's an opinion that follows
> from first principles in logic.
> That is to say, there is a sur-
> rounds of mathematical proof to
> so establish that, vis a vis our
> usual (and sole) scientific means
> of the establishment of non-
> contradicted scientific fact
> (fact that the hypothesis isn't
> invalidated, by any given datum
> of experiment and all of them).
>
>
> So, mathematical physics needs
> more or better mathematics of
> infinity as to have suitable
> models for the unbounded and
> infinite in nature, and as well
> the vanishing and infinitesimal.
>
> This then is about total and
> point effects, about the global
> and local, in the universal and
> nullary (read "void").
Infinity or infinitesimal do not exist. Points do not exist. Lines do
not exist. Numbers do not exist. Mathematics is NOT more real than
reality. Get with the program!
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 11:33 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <017a4d06-3579-4680-a849-f0d16eff7099@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534394 |
BJ really had himself worked into a lather over this. I love Kooks!
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 16:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <zp54y.86068$rM.50503@fx16.iad> |
| In reply to | #534396 |
On 11/21/2015 02:33 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ really had himself worked into a lather over this. I love Kooks!
>
Lather? H&V you are truly living the fantasy! It's all a great joke
only YOU "get". That's why you sit in the corner of the room constantly
laughing to yourself!
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 12:01 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <13d9d2ea-de79-4473-baf0-3f41ca65ca28@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534391 |
On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 11:18:19 AM UTC-8, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > Numbers are infinite. Yes, but infinity is not a number...
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| From | "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 12:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <0f99ce39-efd3-4f96-8cca-ecdfdce46c90@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534401 |
On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 12:01:23 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 11:18:19 AM UTC-8, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > > > Numbers are infinite. > > Yes, but infinity is not a number... Various formalizations or systems or theories of numbers (in number theory) include a "point at infinity", 1-point compactification of the integers, or 2-point compactification of the reals (points at infinity), for "meromorphic analysis" as part of "free analysis on the plane", etcetera. Are you talking about infinity in numbers? Some have that most of the integers, or, say, half of them, are infinite. This is also about how sometimes the integers are unsigned and like odometer or clock arithmetic and how, for example in physics, there is "infinity equals negative one", for example "minus one temperature is hotter than the Sun". So, besides trans-finite cardinals and ordinals as "infinite numbers", there are a wide variety of other considerations and including their import and applications throughout number theory and applications.
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| From | "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 12:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <0ec9dba1-6cef-4f26-a863-0dc67ff61148@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534404 |
On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 12:24:59 PM UTC-8, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 12:01:23 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 11:18:19 AM UTC-8, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > > > > > Numbers are infinite. > > > > Yes, but infinity is not a number... > > Various formalizations or systems or > theories of numbers (in number theory) > include a "point at infinity", 1-point > compactification of the integers, or > 2-point compactification of the reals > (points at infinity), for "meromorphic > analysis" as part of "free analysis on > the plane", etcetera. > > Are you talking about infinity in numbers? > > Some have that most of the integers, or, > say, half of them, are infinite. > > This is also about how sometimes the > integers are unsigned and like odometer > or clock arithmetic and how, for example > in physics, there is "infinity equals > negative one", for example "minus one > temperature is hotter than the Sun". > > So, besides trans-finite cardinals and > ordinals as "infinite numbers", there > are a wide variety of other considerations > and including their import and applications > throughout number theory and applications. Some have that half of the integers are signed. The central distribution about the signed and normal goes to a circle, the flat distribution about the unsigned and regular goes to a line. This is about also fundamentals of probability theory for how we go about reasoned explanations of the various Bose and Fermi statistics and parastatistics as provide the probabilistic reasoning and outcomes in Bayes, Jeffreys, etc. for a usual reasonable estimation of effect. That remains to follow, here, for a survey. "Borel vs. Combinatorics", everyone.
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