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Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2015-11-23 07:55 -0600
Last post2015-11-24 17:33 -0600
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  Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 07:55 -0600
    Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 07:37 -0800
      Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 09:04 -0800
        Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 13:11 -0500
        Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 03:31 -0800
          Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 13:25 -0500
    Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand  gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 11:16 -0800
      Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 14:04 -0600
        slow, medium & fast Alfven waves in free space noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 17:43 -0800
        Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand  gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 23:28 -0800
        Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-24 20:02 +0000
      Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand  gravity "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 03:33 -0800
        Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand  gravity benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 13:26 -0500
    Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-24 17:33 -0600

#534773 — Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-23 07:55 -0600
SubjectWithout Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity
Message-ID<T8WdnRS51LArh87LnZ2dnUU7-IGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity
> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-einstein-decades-longer-gravity.html


> To describe curved space-time, Einstein called upon the earlier work
> of Bernhard Riemann, a 19th century mathematician. And with the help
> of his friend Marcel Grossman, also a mathematician, Einstein spent
> several exhausting years learning the mathematics of curved spaces,
> or what mathematicians call "differential geometry". As Einstein
> commented, "compared with understanding gravity, special relativity
> was mere child's play".
>
> Now Einstein had the mathematical tools to finalise his theory. His
> equivalence principle stated that an accelerating reference frame is
> equivalent to a gravitational field. From his geometrical studies, he
> believed the gravitational field was simply a manifestation of curved
> space-time. Hence, Einstein could show that accelerating frames were
> represented by non-Euclidean space.
>

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#534796

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-23 07:37 -0800
Message-ID<cd4e9af7-1027-4f4f-9f0d-ef4af09db75c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#534773
So-
We "understand " gravity!!
Who woulda thunk?

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#534818

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-23 09:04 -0800
Message-ID<1078329b-e109-478a-b8f7-d44313496d1e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#534796
So- 
We "understand " gravity!! 
Who woulda thunk
-------------

John it's just your kooky worldview that prevents you from understanding. It's the same with BJ and most other kooks. You have allowed your insane beliefs to cloud and obfuscate reality from you.

Rant over. Now you can go back to your child molestation

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#534842

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-23 13:11 -0500
Message-ID<vFI4y.166510$eE.19515@fx07.iad>
In reply to#534818
On 11/23/2015 12:04 PM, HVAC wrote:
> So-
> We "understand " gravity!!
> Who woulda thunk
> -------------
>
> John it's just your kooky worldview that prevents you from understanding. It's the same with BJ and most other kooks. You have allowed your insane beliefs to cloud and obfuscate reality from you.
>
> Rant over. Now you can go back to your child molestation

Tell us again, HVAC how "warps" in space-time "explain" gravity?

You need to take your meds again.



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#535007

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-24 03:31 -0800
Message-ID<34b5542e-1263-4403-b64b-8d5cd31811af@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#534818
On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 7:04:20 PM UTC+2, HVAC wrote:
> So- 
> We "understand " gravity!! 
> Who woulda thunk
> -------------
> 
> John it's just your kooky worldview that prevents you from understanding. It's the same with BJ and most other kooks. You have allowed your insane beliefs to cloud and obfuscate reality from you.
> 
> Rant over. Now you can go back to your child molestation

========================a
****anonymous****** dreck 'havac
is a hired shameless  pig gangster 

go   f your mother pig 

Y.Porat
=======================

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#535087

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-24 13:25 -0500
Message-ID<mY15y.172642$qL.146059@fx15.iad>
In reply to#535007
On 11/24/2015 06:31 AM, Y.Porat wrote:
> On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 7:04:20 PM UTC+2, HVAC wrote:
>> So-
>> We "understand " gravity!!
>> Who woulda thunk
>> -------------
>>
>> John it's just your kooky worldview that prevents you from understanding. It's the same with BJ and most other kooks. You have allowed your insane beliefs to cloud and obfuscate reality from you.
>>
>> Rant over. Now you can go back to your child molestation
>
> ========================a
> ****anonymous****** dreck 'havac
> is a hired shameless  pig gangster
>
> go   f your mother pig
>
> Y.Porat
> =======================

Hey! We have froth! Nice froth properly directed too!

Good rant pooter!



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#534872 — Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-23 11:16 -0800
SubjectRe: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity
Message-ID<56536610.51BD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#534773
Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity
> > http://phys.org/news/2015-11-einstein-decades-longer-gravity.html
> 
> > To describe curved space-time, Einstein called upon the earlier work
> > of Bernhard Riemann, a 19th century mathematician. And with the help
> > of his friend Marcel Grossman, also a mathematician, Einstein spent
> > several exhausting years learning the mathematics of curved spaces,
> > or what mathematicians call "differential geometry". As Einstein
> > commented, "compared with understanding gravity, special relativity
> > was mere child's play".
> >
> > Now Einstein had the mathematical tools to finalise his theory. His
> > equivalence principle stated that an accelerating reference frame is
> > equivalent to a gravitational field. From his geometrical studies, he
> > believed the gravitational field was simply a manifestation of curved
> > space-time. Hence, Einstein could show that accelerating frames were
> > represented by non-Euclidean space.
> >
> 
> --
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.


Gravity is 'just a theory'....there is no proof or fact that there such
a thing as ...Gravity.

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#534882

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-23 14:04 -0600
Message-ID<0JKdndH97MvT7M7LnZ2dnUU7-Q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#534872
On 11/23/15 1:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Gravity is 'just a theory'....there is no proof or fact that there such
> a thing as ...Gravity.

   Is there some reason you can float without touching the ground?


   Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand
   gravity
 > http://phys.org/news/2015-11-einstein-decades-longer-gravity.html

 > To describe curved space-time, Einstein called upon the earlier work
 > of Bernhard Riemann, a 19th century mathematician. And with the help
 > of his friend Marcel Grossman, also a mathematician, Einstein spent
 > several exhausting years learning the mathematics of curved spaces,
 > or what mathematicians call "differential geometry". As Einstein
 > commented, "compared with understanding gravity, special relativity
 > was mere child's play".
 >
 > Now Einstein had the mathematical tools to finalise his theory. His
 > equivalence principle stated that an accelerating reference frame is
 > equivalent to a gravitational field. From his geometrical studies, he
 > believed the gravitational field was simply a manifestation of curved
 > space-time. Hence, Einstein could show that accelerating frames were
 > represented by non-Euclidean space.


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#534954 — slow, medium & fast Alfven waves in free space

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-23 17:43 -0800
Subjectslow, medium & fast Alfven waves in free space
Message-ID<f13e4f62-1264-439c-a776-88cb6321579d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#534882
the curvature of space cannot only be denoted
by the density of the atoms of free space;
see Alfven's plasma physics (school

>    Is there some reason you can float without touching the ground?

>  > several exhausting years learning the mathematics of curved spaces,
>  > or what mathematicians call "differential geometry". As Einstein
>  > commented, "compared with understanding gravity, special relativity
>  > was mere child's play".
>  >
>  > Now Einstein had the mathematical tools to finalise his theory. His
>  > equivalence principle stated that an accelerating reference frame is
>  > equivalent to a gravitational field. From his geometrical studies, he
>  > believed the gravitational field was simply a manifestation of curved
>  > space-time. Hence, Einstein could show that accelerating frames were
>  > represented by non-Euclidean space.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

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#534999 — Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-11-23 23:28 -0800
SubjectRe: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity
Message-ID<56541191.4895@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#534882
Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 11/23/15 1:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Gravity is 'just a theory'....there is no proof or fact that there such
> > a thing as ...Gravity.
> 
>    Is there some reason you can float without touching the ground?


The ice is slippery.

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#535159

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-11-24 20:02 +0000
Message-ID<3cseic-d0e.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#534882
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/23/15 1:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Gravity is 'just a theory'....there is no proof or fact that there such
>> a thing as ...Gravity.
> 
>   Is there some reason you can float without touching the ground?

Is there some reason you keep posting this over and over again,
ass hole?


> 
>   Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand
>   gravity
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-einstein-decades-longer-gravity.html
> 
>> To describe curved space-time, Einstein called upon the earlier work
>> of Bernhard Riemann, a 19th century mathematician. And with the help
>> of his friend Marcel Grossman, also a mathematician, Einstein spent
>> several exhausting years learning the mathematics of curved spaces,
>> or what mathematicians call "differential geometry". As Einstein
>> commented, "compared with understanding gravity, special relativity
>> was mere child's play".
>>
>> Now Einstein had the mathematical tools to finalise his theory. His
>> equivalence principle stated that an accelerating reference frame is
>> equivalent to a gravitational field. From his geometrical studies, he
>> believed the gravitational field was simply a manifestation of curved
>> space-time. Hence, Einstein could show that accelerating frames were
>> represented by non-Euclidean space.
> 
> 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#535008 — Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-24 03:33 -0800
SubjectRe: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity
Message-ID<a46ebeb9-2b53-4ae7-b56b-0cfa080782f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#534872
On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 9:16:36 PM UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote:
> Sam Wormley wrote:
> > 
> > Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity
> > > http://phys.org/news/2015-11-einstein-decades-longer-gravity.html
> > 
> > > To describe curved space-time, Einstein called upon the earlier work
> > > of Bernhard Riemann, a 19th century mathematician. And with the help
> > > of his friend Marcel Grossman, also a mathematician, Einstein spent
> > > several exhausting years learning the mathematics of curved spaces,
> > > or what mathematicians call "differential geometry". As Einstein
> > > commented, "compared with understanding gravity, special relativity
> > > was mere child's play".
> > >
> > > Now Einstein had the mathematical tools to finalise his theory. His
> > > equivalence principle stated that an accelerating reference frame is
> > > equivalent to a gravitational field. From his geometrical studies, he
> > > believed the gravitational field was simply a manifestation of curved
> > > space-time. Hence, Einstein could show that accelerating frames were
> > > represented by non-Euclidean space.
> > >
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > community, and physics-related social issues.
> 
> 
> Gravity is 'just a theory'....there is no proof or fact that there such
> a thing as ...Gravity.

========================
another idiot parrot around the table !!

-----------------------------
Y.P
=====================================

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#535088 — Re: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-24 13:26 -0500
SubjectRe: Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity
Message-ID<AZ15y.172643$qL.53797@fx15.iad>
In reply to#535008
On 11/24/2015 06:33 AM, Y.Porat wrote:
> On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 9:16:36 PM UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>
>>> Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity
>>>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-einstein-decades-longer-gravity.html
>>>
>>>> To describe curved space-time, Einstein called upon the earlier work
>>>> of Bernhard Riemann, a 19th century mathematician. And with the help
>>>> of his friend Marcel Grossman, also a mathematician, Einstein spent
>>>> several exhausting years learning the mathematics of curved spaces,
>>>> or what mathematicians call "differential geometry". As Einstein
>>>> commented, "compared with understanding gravity, special relativity
>>>> was mere child's play".
>>>>
>>>> Now Einstein had the mathematical tools to finalise his theory. His
>>>> equivalence principle stated that an accelerating reference frame is
>>>> equivalent to a gravitational field. From his geometrical studies, he
>>>> believed the gravitational field was simply a manifestation of curved
>>>> space-time. Hence, Einstein could show that accelerating frames were
>>>> represented by non-Euclidean space.
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>>> community, and physics-related social issues.
>>
>>
>> Gravity is 'just a theory'....there is no proof or fact that there such
>> a thing as ...Gravity.
>
> ========================
> another idiot parrot around the table !!
>
> -----------------------------
> Y.P
> =====================================

Starfaker is a media Lib, Pooter. "Idiot parrot" hardly comes up to the 
level needed for his description.



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#535243

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-11-24 17:33 -0600
Message-ID<n32s4c$r6l$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#534773
On 11/23/2015 7:55 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Without Einstein it would have taken decades longer to understand gravity


wrong.  Assumes facts not in evidence or on earth.


        (=> Fat man in a cube stuff.)

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