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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:04 -0400
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:40 +0800
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:32 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:45 +0800
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:45 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:31 +0800
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:48 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:33 +0800
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:41 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:58 +0800
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:25 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 11:27 +0800
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 01:15 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 05:09 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:18 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 10:00 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:06 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:44 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:40 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 22:18 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:18 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:35 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:12 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 01:11 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 11:07 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 23:38 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:37 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:08 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:36 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 12:18 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:57 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 21:15 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 21:54 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:35 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 22:11 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 14:18 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 00:46 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:27 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 00:17 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 00:29 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 22:46 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 00:11 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:26 -0400

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#517871

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 22:18:44 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> "If a tree fell down in the 
>>forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test 
>>the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it 
>>shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer 
>>no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct 
>>answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
>
>If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
>unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
>varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
>as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
>They will be created by every such disturbance.
>
>In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
>the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
>will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.

Haahaahaa.  Noise is like a rotten tomato while sound is like a set of healthy
tomatoes.


the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#517873

On 15-08-29 10:18 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> "If a tree fell down in the
>> forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
>> the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
>> shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
>> no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
>> answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
>
> If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
> unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
> varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
> as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
> They will be created by every such disturbance.
>
> In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
> the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
> will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.

This is why you can't be a real Buddhist. Buddhist philosophy is 
idealism. It believes everything happens in the world by the perception 
of the mind. If no one was around, then no one was perceiving the sound, 
so there would be no sound. But such answer contradicts with the law of 
nature. So it has become a question not too many people can answer to 
this day.

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#518099

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:18:33 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mrv6pt$lnq$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 15-08-29 10:18 PM, Attila < wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> "If a tree fell down in the
>>> forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
>>> the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
>>> shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
>>> no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
>>> answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
>>
>> If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
>> unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
>> varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
>> as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
>> They will be created by every such disturbance.
>>
>> In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
>> the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
>> will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.
>
>This is why you can't be a real Buddhist.

I have never had the slightest desire to be any kind of a theist.

> Buddhist philosophy is 
>idealism. It believes everything happens in the world by the perception 
>of the mind. If no one was around, then no one was perceiving the sound, 
>so there would be no sound. But such answer contradicts with the law of 
>nature. So it has become a question not too many people can answer to 
>this day.

The world must have been very strange for hundreds of millions of
years.  Storms, volcanoes, earthquakes, billions of different animals
being born, living, and dying all in total silence because there was
no one around to hear any of them make any sound.

Only an idiot could fail to answer the question.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#518172

Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:18:33 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mrv6pt$lnq$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> 
> >On 15-08-29 10:18 PM, Attila < wrote:
> >> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> >> alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "If a tree fell down in the
> >>> forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
> >>> the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
> >>> shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
> >>> no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
> >>> answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
> >>
> >> If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
> >> unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
> >> varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
> >> as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
> >> They will be created by every such disturbance.
> >>
> >> In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
> >> the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
> >> will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.
> >
> >This is why you can't be a real Buddhist.
> 
> I have never had the slightest desire to be any kind of a theist.
> 
> > Buddhist philosophy is
> >idealism. It believes everything happens in the world by the perception
> >of the mind. If no one was around, then no one was perceiving the sound,
> >so there would be no sound. But such answer contradicts with the law of
> >nature. So it has become a question not too many people can answer to
> >this day.
> 
> The world must have been very strange for hundreds of millions of
> years.  Storms, volcanoes, earthquakes, billions of different animals
> being born, living, and dying all in total silence because there was
> no one around to hear any of them make any sound.


"no one" means people and animals...

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#518349

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:12:01 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<55E48AE1.5403@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:18:33 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrv6pt$lnq$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>> 
>> >On 15-08-29 10:18 PM, Attila < wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> >> alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> "If a tree fell down in the
>> >>> forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
>> >>> the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
>> >>> shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
>> >>> no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
>> >>> answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
>> >>
>> >> If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
>> >> unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
>> >> varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
>> >> as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
>> >> They will be created by every such disturbance.
>> >>
>> >> In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
>> >> the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
>> >> will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.
>> >
>> >This is why you can't be a real Buddhist.
>> 
>> I have never had the slightest desire to be any kind of a theist.
>> 
>> > Buddhist philosophy is
>> >idealism. It believes everything happens in the world by the perception
>> >of the mind. If no one was around, then no one was perceiving the sound,
>> >so there would be no sound. But such answer contradicts with the law of
>> >nature. So it has become a question not too many people can answer to
>> >this day.
>> 
>> The world must have been very strange for hundreds of millions of
>> years.  Storms, volcanoes, earthquakes, billions of different animals
>> being born, living, and dying all in total silence because there was
>> no one around to hear any of them make any sound.
>
>
>"no one" means people and animals...

How convenient.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#518354

Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:12:01 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <55E48AE1.5403@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Attila < wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:18:33 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> >> alt.atheism with message-id <mrv6pt$lnq$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 15-08-29 10:18 PM, Attila < wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> >> >> alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> "If a tree fell down in the
> >> >>> forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
> >> >>> the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
> >> >>> shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
> >> >>> no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
> >> >>> answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
> >> >>
> >> >> If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
> >> >> unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
> >> >> varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
> >> >> as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
> >> >> They will be created by every such disturbance.
> >> >>
> >> >> In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
> >> >> the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
> >> >> will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.
> >> >
> >> >This is why you can't be a real Buddhist.
> >>
> >> I have never had the slightest desire to be any kind of a theist.
> >>
> >> > Buddhist philosophy is
> >> >idealism. It believes everything happens in the world by the perception
> >> >of the mind. If no one was around, then no one was perceiving the sound,
> >> >so there would be no sound. But such answer contradicts with the law of
> >> >nature. So it has become a question not too many people can answer to
> >> >this day.
> >>
> >> The world must have been very strange for hundreds of millions of
> >> years.  Storms, volcanoes, earthquakes, billions of different animals
> >> being born, living, and dying all in total silence because there was
> >> no one around to hear any of them make any sound.
> >
> >
> >"no one" means people and animals...
> 
> How convenient.

There is nothing convenient about having ears. Cows have ears, dogs have
ears, the walls have ears...

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#518388

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Attila < wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:12:01 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > <55E48AE1.5403@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Attila < wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:18:33 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> > >> alt.atheism with message-id <mrv6pt$lnq$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On 15-08-29 10:18 PM, Attila < wrote:
> > >> >> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> > >> >> alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> "If a tree fell down in the
> > >> >>> forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
> > >> >>> the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
> > >> >>> shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
> > >> >>> no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
> > >> >>> answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
> > >> >> unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
> > >> >> varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
> > >> >> as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
> > >> >> They will be created by every such disturbance.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
> > >> >> the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
> > >> >> will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.
> > >> >
> > >> >This is why you can't be a real Buddhist.
> > >>
> > >> I have never had the slightest desire to be any kind of a theist.
> > >>
> > >> > Buddhist philosophy is
> > >> >idealism. It believes everything happens in the world by the perception
> > >> >of the mind. If no one was around, then no one was perceiving the sound,
> > >> >so there would be no sound. But such answer contradicts with the law of
> > >> >nature. So it has become a question not too many people can answer to
> > >> >this day.
> > >>
> > >> The world must have been very strange for hundreds of millions of
> > >> years.  Storms, volcanoes, earthquakes, billions of different animals
> > >> being born, living, and dying all in total silence because there was
> > >> no one around to hear any of them make any sound.
> > >
> > >
> > >"no one" means people and animals...
> >
> > How convenient.
> 
> There is nothing convenient about having ears. Cows have ears, dogs have
> ears, the walls have ears...

Maybe you need to understand the definition of...sound:



    1.
    vibrations that travel through the air or another medium and can be heard when they reach a person's or animal's ear.
https://www.google.com/#q=define+sound



It's not convenience, it's simply by definition...



"a person's or animal's ear"


I don't make up these things.


In other words, no ears...no sound.


No ears, No sound.


It's simple.

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#517925

Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> 
> > "If a tree fell down in the
> >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
> >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
> >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
> >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
> >answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
> 
> If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
> unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
> varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
> as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
> They will be created by every such disturbance.
> 
> In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
> the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
> will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.


If no one is there to hear the sound,  it doesn't make a sound.

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#518077

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Attila < wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> > alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >
> > > "If a tree fell down in the
> > >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
> > >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
> > >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
> > >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
> > >answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
> >
> > If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
> > unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
> > varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
> > as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
> > They will be created by every such disturbance.
> >
> > In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
> > the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
> > will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.
> 
> If no one is there to hear the sound,  it doesn't make a sound.


In other words, tape recorders don't have ears, so they cannot hear
sounds.

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#518101

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:38:30 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<55E3F666.7E90@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> Attila < wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> > alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>> >
>> > > "If a tree fell down in the
>> > >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
>> > >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
>> > >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
>> > >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
>> > >answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
>> >
>> > If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
>> > unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
>> > varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
>> > as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
>> > They will be created by every such disturbance.
>> >
>> > In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
>> > the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
>> > will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.
>> 
>> If no one is there to hear the sound,  it doesn't make a sound.
>
>
>In other words, tape recorders don't have ears, so they cannot hear
>sounds.

According to you there is nothing to record.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#518169

Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:38:30 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <55E3F666.7E90@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> Attila < wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> >> > alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > "If a tree fell down in the
> >> > >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
> >> > >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
> >> > >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
> >> > >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
> >> > >answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
> >> >
> >> > If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
> >> > unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
> >> > varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
> >> > as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
> >> > They will be created by every such disturbance.
> >> >
> >> > In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
> >> > the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
> >> > will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.
> >>
> >> If no one is there to hear the sound,  it doesn't make a sound.
> >
> >
> >In other words, tape recorders don't have ears, so they cannot hear
> >sounds.
> 
> According to you there is nothing to record.


Not according to me....it might record something, but it won't be
sounds.


unless of course the tape recorder grows ears.

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#518351

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:08:02 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<55E489F2.457@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:38:30 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <55E3F666.7E90@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Attila < wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> >> > alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > "If a tree fell down in the
>> >> > >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
>> >> > >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
>> >> > >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
>> >> > >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
>> >> > >answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
>> >> >
>> >> > If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
>> >> > unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
>> >> > varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
>> >> > as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
>> >> > They will be created by every such disturbance.
>> >> >
>> >> > In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
>> >> > the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
>> >> > will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.
>> >>
>> >> If no one is there to hear the sound,  it doesn't make a sound.
>> >
>> >
>> >In other words, tape recorders don't have ears, so they cannot hear
>> >sounds.
>> 
>> According to you there is nothing to record.
>
>
>Not according to me....it might record something, but it won't be
>sounds.
>
>
>unless of course the tape recorder grows ears.

What else does a tape recorder record if not sounds?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#518100

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 12:08:57 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<55E354C9.3D3A@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>> 
>> > "If a tree fell down in the
>> >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
>> >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
>> >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
>> >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
>> >answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
>> 
>> If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
>> unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
>> varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
>> as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
>> They will be created by every such disturbance.
>> 
>> In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
>> the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
>> will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.
>
>
>If no one is there to hear the sound,  it doesn't make a sound.

See my reply to a prior post.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#518575

Most atheist
   believe
 the universe is 
mathematical.

I mean, they actually
believe the universe is
Mathematical.

But, if i go
to the moon
and look around..
i don't see any mathematics.

i don't see any...numbers.

If i go to Mars

i don't see any mathematics.

i don't see any...numbers.

Where is this
mathematics
they are seeing?

Is it hidden??


Because, it only exist in their mind.

Mathematics is based on belief, not science.


Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..

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#518645

Date-Marshmallow Waldorf Salad

Prep
20 m
Ready In
1 h 20 m

Ingredients
2 cups peeled, diced tart apples
1 tablespoon white sugar
1 teaspoon lemon juice
1 pinch salt
1/2 cup chopped celery

1/2 cup chopped pitted dates
1/2 cup chopped walnuts
1/4 cup mayonnaise
1/2 cup heavy cream
1/4 cup miniature marshmallows

Directions
Place the apples in a medium serving bowl and sprinkle with sugar, lemon 
juice and salt. Stir in the celery, dates and walnuts. In a separate 
bowl, whip the cream with an electric mixer until it can hold a peak. 
Mix in mayonnaise and gently fold into the apple mixture along with the 
marshmallows. Refrigerate for at least 1 hour before serving.

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#518649

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Most atheist
>    believe
>  the universe is
> mathematical.
> 
> I mean, they actually
> believe the universe is
> Mathematical.
> 
> But, if i go
> to the moon
> and look around..
> i don't see any mathematics.
> 
> i don't see any...numbers.
> 
> If i go to Mars
> 
> i don't see any mathematics.
> 
> i don't see any...numbers.
> 
> Where is this
> mathematics
> they are seeing?
> 
> Is it hidden??
> 
> Because, it only exist in their mind.
> 
> Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
> 
> Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..



Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
36-26-36.

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#518650

On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 6:14:40 AM UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > Most atheist
> >    believe
> >  the universe is
> > mathematical.
> > 
> > I mean, they actually
> > believe the universe is
> > Mathematical.
> > 
> > But, if i go
> > to the moon
> > and look around..
> > i don't see any mathematics.
> > 
> > i don't see any...numbers.
> > 
> > If i go to Mars
> > 
> > i don't see any mathematics.
> > 
> > i don't see any...numbers.
> > 
> > Where is this
> > mathematics
> > they are seeing?
> > 
> > Is it hidden??
> > 
> > Because, it only exist in their mind.
> > 
> > Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
> > 
> > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
> 
> 
> 
> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
> 36-26-36.

every natural law or social agreement to be formulated must gather all the influential parameters that are mathematical magnitudes and put them in equation. the bible says "at 1st the earth was void and without form"... well the form is given by mathematics: you gather the parameters of the function and plot its graphic that graphic is the form. you are blind for math in a way of accepting the computer machine without the world wide order of them 1's and 0's. the equation of circle is 1^0 = O^once because 1^0 is Complex ROOT with infinite degree of |1|.

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#518936

dobri karagorgov wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 6:14:40 AM UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Most atheist
> > >    believe
> > >  the universe is
> > > mathematical.
> > >
> > > I mean, they actually
> > > believe the universe is
> > > Mathematical.
> > >
> > > But, if i go
> > > to the moon
> > > and look around..
> > > i don't see any mathematics.
> > >
> > > i don't see any...numbers.
> > >
> > > If i go to Mars
> > >
> > > i don't see any mathematics.
> > >
> > > i don't see any...numbers.
> > >
> > > Where is this
> > > mathematics
> > > they are seeing?
> > >
> > > Is it hidden??
> > >
> > > Because, it only exist in their mind.
> > >
> > > Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
> > >
> > > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
> >
> >
> >
> > Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
> > 36-26-36.
> 
> every natural law or social agreement to be formulated must gather all the influential parameters that are mathematical magnitudes and put them in equation. the bible says "at >1st the earth was void and without form"... well the form is given by mathematics: you gather the parameters of the function and plot its graphic that graphic is the form. you >are blind for math in a way of accepting the computer machine without the world wide order of them 1's and 0's. the equation of circle is 1^0 = O^on


That is a pretty picture you painted...

"earth was void and without form", "them 1's and 0's", etc...it looks
like an interesting painting.

A little abstract...but pretty.

You should try using paints and brushes...

take a art painting course..


then turn your abstract thoughts from words to paintings and sell it at
an art show in New York galleries.


I would price it at $30,000.00

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#518653

On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 6:14:40 AM UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > Most atheist
> >    believe
> >  the universe is
> > mathematical.
> > 
> > I mean, they actually
> > believe the universe is
> > Mathematical.
> > 
> > But, if i go
> > to the moon
> > and look around..
> > i don't see any mathematics.
> > 
> > i don't see any...numbers.
> > 
> > If i go to Mars
> > 
> > i don't see any mathematics.
> > 
> > i don't see any...numbers.
> > 
> > Where is this
> > mathematics
> > they are seeing?
> > 
> > Is it hidden??
> > 
> > Because, it only exist in their mind.
> > 
> > Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
> > 
> > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
> 
> 
> 
> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
> 36-26-36.

the greatest wealth of Arab World are the decade digits. without them no American European or Asian industry can produce A shit. 

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#518760

On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 9:14:40 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > Most atheist
> >    believe
> >  the universe is
> > mathematical.
> > 
> > I mean, they actually
> > believe the universe is
> > Mathematical.
> > 
> > But, if i go
> > to the moon
> > and look around..
> > i don't see any mathematics.
> > 
> > i don't see any...numbers.
> > 
> > If i go to Mars
> > 
> > i don't see any mathematics.
> > 
> > i don't see any...numbers.
> > 
> > Where is this
> > mathematics
> > they are seeing?
> > 
> > Is it hidden??
> > 
> > Because, it only exist in their mind.
> > 
> > Mathematics is based on belief, not science.
> > 
> > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
> 
> 
> 
> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw
> 36-26-36.

We have a great theary of beliefs.We have my equation G=EMC^2 that can be used for God or Gravity.Best to touch all bases.TreBert

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