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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Message-ID	<55E5E974.4229@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
Date	2015-09-01 11:07 -0700
From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups	alt.atheism, rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Attila < wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:12:01 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > <55E48AE1.5403@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Attila < wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:18:33 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> > >> alt.atheism with message-id <mrv6pt$lnq$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On 15-08-29 10:18 PM, Attila < wrote:
> > >> >> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> > >> >> alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> "If a tree fell down in the
> > >> >>> forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test
> > >> >>> the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it
> > >> >>> shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer
> > >> >>> no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct
> > >> >>> answer, as I have given you, is not sure.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If  a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air.  That is
> > >> >> unavoidable.  A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure
> > >> >> varies according to specific physical laws.  These waves are defined
> > >> >> as sound.  It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not.
> > >> >> They will be created by every such disturbance.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of
> > >> >> the sound even though no one is there to hear it.  And that record
> > >> >> will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not.
> > >> >
> > >> >This is why you can't be a real Buddhist.
> > >>
> > >> I have never had the slightest desire to be any kind of a theist.
> > >>
> > >> > Buddhist philosophy is
> > >> >idealism. It believes everything happens in the world by the perception
> > >> >of the mind. If no one was around, then no one was perceiving the sound,
> > >> >so there would be no sound. But such answer contradicts with the law of
> > >> >nature. So it has become a question not too many people can answer to
> > >> >this day.
> > >>
> > >> The world must have been very strange for hundreds of millions of
> > >> years.  Storms, volcanoes, earthquakes, billions of different animals
> > >> being born, living, and dying all in total silence because there was
> > >> no one around to hear any of them make any sound.
> > >
> > >
> > >"no one" means people and animals...
> >
> > How convenient.
> 
> There is nothing convenient about having ears. Cows have ears, dogs have
> ears, the walls have ears...

Maybe you need to understand the definition of...sound:



    1.
    vibrations that travel through the air or another medium and can be heard when they reach a person's or animal's ear.
https://www.google.com/#q=define+sound



It's not convenience, it's simply by definition...



"a person's or animal's ear"


I don't make up these things.


In other words, no ears...no sound.


No ears, No sound.


It's simple.

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:33 +0800
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:41 -0400
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:58 +0800
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:25 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 11:27 +0800
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 01:15 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 05:09 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:18 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 10:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:06 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:44 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:40 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 22:18 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:18 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:35 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:12 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 01:11 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 11:07 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 23:38 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:08 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:36 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 12:18 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:57 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 21:15 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 00:46 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:27 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 00:17 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 00:29 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 22:46 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 00:11 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:26 -0400

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