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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2015-06-26 11:38 -0700 |
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-26 11:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 20:15 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-27 12:41 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-27 13:28 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-27 15:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-27 17:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-06-27 22:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 12:12 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-28 12:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-06-28 13:09 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-06-29 17:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-29 17:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-28 12:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-28 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 12:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-28 14:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-28 12:37 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mattb. <Trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 12:54 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-28 22:54 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-28 16:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-28 16:25 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-28 17:20 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-28 17:43 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-28 16:42 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-28 17:52 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-28 18:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-28 16:39 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-28 18:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-28 20:25 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-28 18:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-29 09:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-29 10:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-29 10:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 00:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-29 09:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-29 10:10 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-29 10:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-29 23:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-30 01:22 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-29 12:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-28 16:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 17:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-28 17:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-28 16:41 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-28 18:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 20:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-29 07:13 -0500
I command you. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-29 12:59 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-30 01:39 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-30 12:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-30 10:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:43 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 09:15 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:43 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 14:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-03 16:09 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 12:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-04 11:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 12:40 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-04 09:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 08:13 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-05 06:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-05 10:03 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-05 10:25 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 16:38 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 07:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-06 13:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 05:28 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 10:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:47 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 09:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 13:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:47 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 07:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 16:09 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:46 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-01 18:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-29 08:59 -0500
Re: "HVAC" thumps his drivel. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 01:49 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-28 12:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 01:55 -0400
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-28 16:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <dep0patlbuvi4k6q0rn24v6p6878d35lg6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503230 |
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:02:11 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: >On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0200, "Malte Runz" ><malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: > >>"Gordon" skrev i meddelelsen >>news:dni0padre2kpd8623s8l82sfoeqlfhbppp@4ax.com... >> >>(snip) >> >>> God has not murdered anyone. ... >> >>Excuse me if I'm off topic here, but I'd like you to explain what you >>believe was God's role in the Flood... incident, if you don't mind. >> >>(snip) >> >The flood and many other Bible stories are allegories. We have to >comprehend these allegories in the sense to which they are related. > >What the flood story tells us is that when people at large turn away >from God WHAT FUCKING GOD in the real world outside your bronze-age myths and legends? Until you in-our-face, lying morons demonstrate that it is anything more than a figment of your deluded imagination, there is nothing to turn away from. Why is that so hard to understand?
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| From | Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-28 17:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mmps01$p5p$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #503235 |
On 6/28/2015 4:25 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:02:11 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> > wrote: > >> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >> . >>> >>> >>>> God has not murdered anyone. ... >>> >>> Excuse me if I'm off topic here, but I'd like you to explain what you >>> believe was God's role in the Flood... incident, if you don't mind. >>> (snip) >>> >> The flood and many other Bible stories are allegories. We have to >> comprehend these allegories in the sense to which they are related. >> What the flood story tells us is that when people at large turn away >>from God > > WHAT FUCKING GOD in the real world outside your bronze-age myths and > legends? Dude, You cannot be the God of yourself. You cannot call yourself "God". But you do that by denying everything/anything else is God. > > Until you in-our-face, lying morons demonstrate that it is anything > more than a figment of your deluded imagination, there is nothing to > turn away from. so, you only "believe" what you can see with your eyes. > > Why is that so hard to understand?
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-28 17:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <uot0palduk0dkn348rc9sjtobte9l3e1af@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503254 |
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:20:08 -0500, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >On 6/28/2015 4:25 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote: >> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:02:11 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0200, "Malte Runz" >>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> God has not murdered anyone. ... >>>> >>>> Excuse me if I'm off topic here, but I'd like you to explain what you >>>> believe was God's role in the Flood... incident, if you don't mind. > >>>> (snip) >>>> >>> The flood and many other Bible stories are allegories. We have to >>> comprehend these allegories in the sense to which they are related. > >>> What the flood story tells us is that when people at large turn away >>>from God >> >> WHAT FUCKING GOD in the real world outside your bronze-age myths and >> legends? > >Dude, You cannot be the God of yourself. >You cannot call yourself "God". >But you do that by denying everything/anything else is God. What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot. >> Until you in-our-face, lying morons demonstrate that it is anything >> more than a figment of your deluded imagination, there is nothing to >> turn away from. > >so, you only "believe" what you can see with your eyes. Where did I say that, deliberately stupid, personal liar who puts words into other people's mouths he knows they never said? >> Why is that so hard to understand? Yet another data point for the conclusion that Christianity makes people nastily stupid.
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-28 16:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-141508.16425828062015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #503254 |
In article <mmps01$p5p$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > On 6/28/2015 4:25 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:02:11 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> > > wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0200, "Malte Runz" > >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: > >> > . > >>> > > >>> > >>>> God has not murdered anyone. ... > >>> > >>> Excuse me if I'm off topic here, but I'd like you to explain what you > >>> believe was God's role in the Flood... incident, if you don't mind. > > >>> (snip) > >>> > >> The flood and many other Bible stories are allegories. We have to > >> comprehend these allegories in the sense to which they are related. > > >> What the flood story tells us is that when people at large turn away > >>from God > > > > WHAT FUCKING GOD in the real world outside your bronze-age myths and > > legends? > > Dude, You cannot be the God of yourself. > You cannot call yourself "God". > But you do that by denying everything/anything else is God. What evidence do you have that this god thing exists? > > Until you in-our-face, lying morons demonstrate that it is anything > > more than a figment of your deluded imagination, there is nothing to > > turn away from. > > so, you only "believe" what you can see with your eyes. No. We only believe in those things for which there is evidence, even if we can't see it with our own eyes. > > Why is that so hard to understand? -- JD Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-06-28 17:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oiu0patj9p8hd3q9iprkoijc3te708mbje@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503230 |
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:02:11 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: >On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0200, "Malte Runz" ><malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: > >>"Gordon" skrev i meddelelsen >>news:dni0padre2kpd8623s8l82sfoeqlfhbppp@4ax.com... >> >>(snip) >> >>> God has not murdered anyone. ... >> >>Excuse me if I'm off topic here, but I'd like you to explain what you >>believe was God's role in the Flood... incident, if you don't mind. >> >>(snip) >> >The flood and many other Bible stories are allegories. We have to >comprehend these allegories in the sense to which they are related. > >What the flood story tells us is that when people at large turn away >from God and go their own way they will eventually end up in a severe >situation. I thought god gave people the freedom to choose what they wanted..... it lied... If your god is all knowing then it knew that he would make the flood so therefor your god is a pre meditated murderer > >This is somewhat like walking over the rim of the Grand Canyon without >a parachute or any other such means for survival. God's law of gravity >will surely kill a person who does something like this. Does this mean >that God will murder a person who does something like this?
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| From | Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-28 18:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rmv0pa1j324j61v08loqef1gfmr8k54qff@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503286 |
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:52:25 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:02:11 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >wrote: > >>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0200, "Malte Runz" >><malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >> >>>"Gordon" skrev i meddelelsen >>>news:dni0padre2kpd8623s8l82sfoeqlfhbppp@4ax.com... >>> >>>(snip) >>> >>>> God has not murdered anyone. ... >>> >>>Excuse me if I'm off topic here, but I'd like you to explain what you >>>believe was God's role in the Flood... incident, if you don't mind. >>> >>>(snip) >>> >>The flood and many other Bible stories are allegories. We have to >>comprehend these allegories in the sense to which they are related. >> >>What the flood story tells us is that when people at large turn away >>from God and go their own way they will eventually end up in a severe >>situation. > >I thought god gave people the freedom to choose what they wanted..... >it lied... >If your god is all knowing then it knew that he would make the flood >so therefor your god is a pre meditated murderer > God also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? > >> >>This is somewhat like walking over the rim of the Grand Canyon without >>a parachute or any other such means for survival. God's law of gravity >>will surely kill a person who does something like this. Does this mean >>that God will murder a person who does something like this?
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| From | lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-28 16:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mmq0hi$e8m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #503295 |
On 6/28/15 4:14 PM, Gordon wrote: > God also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the > fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the > pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law > of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? Since there is no god, we'll have to chalk up that one to Newton.
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| From | Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-28 18:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <i321padq7tie0qmru3b15rmpcjj161qtcs@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503308 |
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:39:48 -0700, lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> wrote: >On 6/28/15 4:14 PM, Gordon wrote: > >> God also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the >> fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the >> pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law >> of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? > >Since there is no god, we'll have to chalk up that one to Newton. > Are you implying that Newton created the law of gravity?
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-28 20:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ii71pal2til2v47dnp66bc8tflmo6afnhm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503315 |
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:51:57 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: >On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:39:48 -0700, lal_truckee ><lal_truckee@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On 6/28/15 4:14 PM, Gordon wrote: >> >>> God WHAT FUCKING GOD, question-begging moron? >>> also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the >>> fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the >>> pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law >>> of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? Idiot. >>Since there is no god, we'll have to chalk up that one to Newton. >> >Are you implying that Newton created the law of gravity? Don't be so fucking stupid.
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| From | lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-28 18:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mmq7ts$ojt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #503315 |
On 6/28/15 4:51 PM, Gordon wrote: > Are you implying that Newton created the law of gravity? I'm not implying anything - I'm stating the obvious. YES, Sir Isaac Newton created the "law of gravity." Sir Isaac originated the mathematical specification of the "law of gravity" (first having to invent the requisite math) and as demonstration of usefulness calculated planetary motion for many cases. Before Sir Isaac we had observation of gravity, but no "law of gravity" capable of calculating motion.
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-06-29 09:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n5n2patr3i3cppvhqj9noh0o3dm86rthgq@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503315 |
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:51:57 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: >On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:39:48 -0700, lal_truckee ><lal_truckee@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On 6/28/15 4:14 PM, Gordon wrote: >> >>> God also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the >>> fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the >>> pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law >>> of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? >> >>Since there is no god, we'll have to chalk up that one to Newton. >> >Are you implying that Newton created the law of gravity? Sir Isaac Newton: The Universal Law of Gravitation. There is a popular story that Newton was sitting under an apple tree, an apple fell on his head, and he suddenly thought of the Universal Law of Gravitation. so yeah he did actually make the law of gravity
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| From | Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-29 10:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jnn2pat7dg3u6b1js5k4tunbti66fk7q9d@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503416 |
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:57:26 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:51:57 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >wrote: > >>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:39:48 -0700, lal_truckee >><lal_truckee@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>On 6/28/15 4:14 PM, Gordon wrote: >>> >>>> God also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the >>>> fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the >>>> pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law >>>> of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? >>> >>>Since there is no god, we'll have to chalk up that one to Newton. >>> >>Are you implying that Newton created the law of gravity? > >Sir Isaac Newton: The Universal Law of Gravitation. There is a popular >story that Newton was sitting under an apple tree, an apple fell on >his head, and he suddenly thought of the Universal Law of Gravitation. > >so yeah he did actually make the law of gravity > Had the law of gravity not already existed at the time the apple fell upon Newton's head it would not have fallen. In fact, ole Newton couldn't have sat under an apple tree. Instead he would have floated away into space.
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-29 10:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <7tn2patasnrri8msdh62f8aimhqd8afcg2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503419 |
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:07:48 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: >On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:57:26 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > >>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:51:57 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >>wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:39:48 -0700, lal_truckee >>><lal_truckee@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On 6/28/15 4:14 PM, Gordon wrote: >>>> >>>>> God also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the >>>>> fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the >>>>> pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law >>>>> of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? >>>> >>>>Since there is no god, we'll have to chalk up that one to Newton. >>>> >>>Are you implying that Newton created the law of gravity? >> >>Sir Isaac Newton: The Universal Law of Gravitation. There is a popular >>story that Newton was sitting under an apple tree, an apple fell on >>his head, and he suddenly thought of the Universal Law of Gravitation. >> >>so yeah he did actually make the law of gravity >> >Had the law of gravity not already existed at the time the apple fell >upon Newton's head it would not have fallen. In fact, ole Newton >couldn't have sat under an apple tree. Instead he would have floated >away into space. Jilted John was right... Gordon is a moron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN45OjB-cCU#t=01m20s
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| From | Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-30 00:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mmt4di$cf0$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #503419 |
Le 2015-06-29 11:07, Gordon a écrit : > On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:57:26 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > >> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:51:57 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:39:48 -0700, lal_truckee >>> <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/28/15 4:14 PM, Gordon wrote: >>>> >>>>> God also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the >>>>> fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the >>>>> pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law >>>>> of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? >>>> >>>> Since there is no god, we'll have to chalk up that one to Newton. >>>> >>> Are you implying that Newton created the law of gravity? >> >> Sir Isaac Newton: The Universal Law of Gravitation. There is a popular >> story that Newton was sitting under an apple tree, an apple fell on >> his head, and he suddenly thought of the Universal Law of Gravitation. >> >> so yeah he did actually make the law of gravity >> > Had the law of gravity not already existed at the time the apple fell > upon Newton's head it would not have fallen. In fact, ole Newton > couldn't have sat under an apple tree. Instead he would have floated > away into space. > Leave your brain to science. PLEASE! Many thanks! -- Olrik aa #1981 EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-06-29 09:55 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <s1n2pallvlk86m89rda5jsgh9rj7h8q42u@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503295 |
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:14:10 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: >On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:52:25 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > >>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:02:11 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >>wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0200, "Malte Runz" >>><malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >>> >>>>"Gordon" skrev i meddelelsen >>>>news:dni0padre2kpd8623s8l82sfoeqlfhbppp@4ax.com... >>>> >>>>(snip) >>>> >>>>> God has not murdered anyone. ... >>>> >>>>Excuse me if I'm off topic here, but I'd like you to explain what you >>>>believe was God's role in the Flood... incident, if you don't mind. >>>> >>>>(snip) >>>> >>>The flood and many other Bible stories are allegories. We have to >>>comprehend these allegories in the sense to which they are related. >>> >>>What the flood story tells us is that when people at large turn away >>>from God and go their own way they will eventually end up in a severe >>>situation. >> >>I thought god gave people the freedom to choose what they wanted..... >>it lied... >>If your god is all knowing then it knew that he would make the flood >>so therefor your god is a pre meditated murderer >> >God also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the >fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the >pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law >of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? >> >>> >>>This is somewhat like walking over the rim of the Grand Canyon without >>>a parachute or any other such means for survival. God's law of gravity >>>will surely kill a person who does something like this. Does this mean >>>that God will murder a person who does something like this? sooooo... what you are saying is that your god is a drunk also...... go figure
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| From | Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-29 10:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1rn2paptuvmpainln9skclatg2q06v7sj5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503415 |
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:55:25 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:14:10 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >wrote: > >>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:52:25 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:02:11 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0200, "Malte Runz" >>>><malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >>>> >>>>>"Gordon" skrev i meddelelsen >>>>>news:dni0padre2kpd8623s8l82sfoeqlfhbppp@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>>(snip) >>>>> >>>>>> God has not murdered anyone. ... >>>>> >>>>>Excuse me if I'm off topic here, but I'd like you to explain what you >>>>>believe was God's role in the Flood... incident, if you don't mind. >>>>> >>>>>(snip) >>>>> >>>>The flood and many other Bible stories are allegories. We have to >>>>comprehend these allegories in the sense to which they are related. >>>> >>>>What the flood story tells us is that when people at large turn away >>>>from God and go their own way they will eventually end up in a severe >>>>situation. >>> >>>I thought god gave people the freedom to choose what they wanted..... >>>it lied... >>>If your god is all knowing then it knew that he would make the flood >>>so therefor your god is a pre meditated murderer >>> >>God also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the >>fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the >>pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law >>of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? >>> >>>> >>>>This is somewhat like walking over the rim of the Grand Canyon without >>>>a parachute or any other such means for survival. God's law of gravity >>>>will surely kill a person who does something like this. Does this mean >>>>that God will murder a person who does something like this? > >sooooo... what you are saying is that your god is a drunk also...... >go figure > What I'm saying is that God's natural laws and God's spiritual laws have some common attributes. Violate either and trouble is likely to occur. It is easy to use God's natural laws effects to get the idea of how God's spiritual laws affect us....different, but similar in many respects.
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-29 10:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mlq2pahgk82rlhfu2gm475s69chpcrajsc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503420 |
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:10:48 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: >On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:55:25 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > >>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:14:10 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >>wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:52:25 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>> >>>>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:02:11 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0200, "Malte Runz" >>>>><malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"Gordon" skrev i meddelelsen >>>>>>news:dni0padre2kpd8623s8l82sfoeqlfhbppp@4ax.com... >>>>>> >>>>>>(snip) >>>>>> >>>>>>> God has not murdered anyone. ... >>>>>> >>>>>>Excuse me if I'm off topic here, but I'd like you to explain what you >>>>>>believe was God's role in the Flood... incident, if you don't mind. >>>>>> >>>>>>(snip) >>>>>> >>>>>The flood and many other Bible stories are allegories. We have to >>>>>comprehend these allegories in the sense to which they are related. >>>>> >>>>>What the flood story tells us is that when people at large turn away >>>>>from God and go their own way they will eventually end up in a severe >>>>>situation. >>>> >>>>I thought god gave people the freedom to choose what they wanted..... >>>>it lied... >>>>If your god is all knowing then it knew that he would make the flood >>>>so therefor your god is a pre meditated murderer >>>> >>>God also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the >>>fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the >>>pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law >>>of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? >>>> >>>>> >>>>>This is somewhat like walking over the rim of the Grand Canyon without >>>>>a parachute or any other such means for survival. God's law of gravity >>>>>will surely kill a person who does something like this. Does this mean >>>>>that God will murder a person who does something like this? >> >>sooooo... what you are saying is that your god is a drunk also...... >>go figure >> >What I'm saying is that God's What you're saying is that you're an in-your-face moron.
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| From | Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-29 23:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mmt4mr$cbe$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #503431 |
>>>>>> This is somewhat like walking over the rim of the Grand Canyon without >>>>>> a parachute or any other such means for survival. God's law of gravity >>>>>> will surely kill a person who does something like this. Does this mean >>>>>> that God will murder a person who does something like this? >>> >>> sooooo... what you are saying is that your god is a drunk also...... >>> go figure >>> >> What I'm saying is that God's > > What you're saying is that you're an in-your-face moron. > KNELL TO ZOD !
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-30 01:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-03CD2E.01225730062015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #503586 |
In article <mmt4mr$cbe$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >>>>>> This is somewhat like walking over the rim of the Grand Canyon without > >>>>>> a parachute or any other such means for survival. God's law of gravity > >>>>>> will surely kill a person who does something like this. Does this mean > >>>>>> that God will murder a person who does something like this? > >>> > >>> sooooo... what you are saying is that your god is a drunk also...... > >>> go figure > >>> > >> What I'm saying is that God's > > > > What you're saying is that you're an in-your-face moron. > > > KNELL TO ZOD ! Why would we ring bells to Zod? -- JD Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-06-29 12:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <2313pa95dglt24c5u2so7hpubo1q0qofl3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #503420 |
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:10:48 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: >On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:55:25 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > >>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:14:10 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >>wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:52:25 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>> >>>>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:02:11 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:54:09 +0200, "Malte Runz" >>>>><malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"Gordon" skrev i meddelelsen >>>>>>news:dni0padre2kpd8623s8l82sfoeqlfhbppp@4ax.com... >>>>>> >>>>>>(snip) >>>>>> >>>>>>> God has not murdered anyone. ... >>>>>> >>>>>>Excuse me if I'm off topic here, but I'd like you to explain what you >>>>>>believe was God's role in the Flood... incident, if you don't mind. >>>>>> >>>>>>(snip) >>>>>> >>>>>The flood and many other Bible stories are allegories. We have to >>>>>comprehend these allegories in the sense to which they are related. >>>>> >>>>>What the flood story tells us is that when people at large turn away >>>>>from God and go their own way they will eventually end up in a severe >>>>>situation. >>>> >>>>I thought god gave people the freedom to choose what they wanted..... >>>>it lied... >>>>If your god is all knowing then it knew that he would make the flood >>>>so therefor your god is a pre meditated murderer >>>> >>>God also knows that if a person gets drunk then leans back over the >>>fence around a high rise balcony, loses his balance and falls to the >>>pavement below this will kill the person. That is, God's natural law >>>of gravity will kill that person. Does this make God a murderer? >>>> >>>>> >>>>>This is somewhat like walking over the rim of the Grand Canyon without >>>>>a parachute or any other such means for survival. God's law of gravity >>>>>will surely kill a person who does something like this. Does this mean >>>>>that God will murder a person who does something like this? >> >>sooooo... what you are saying is that your god is a drunk also...... >>go figure >> >What I'm saying is that God's natural laws and God's spiritual laws >have some common attributes. Violate either and trouble is likely to >occur. no what you are actually saying that a sky fairy is the lord commander of the universe... doesnt that about sum it up? jean luc better move over theres a new captain and the new captain is a murdering bastard so yall better watch out > >It is easy to use God's natural laws effects to get the idea of how >God's spiritual laws affect us....different, but similar in many >respects. you idiot
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