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| First post | 2015-06-14 15:49 -0500 |
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-14 15:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-15 07:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-15 08:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-15 13:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-15 21:43 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-15 23:48 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-16 12:52 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 14:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 00:05 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 19:20 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:15 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 21:33 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-19 19:37 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 07:17 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:16 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:15 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 00:12 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-16 18:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 19:27 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-17 14:33 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-17 23:41 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-17 23:00 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mattb. <Trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 23:03 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-18 02:35 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-18 11:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-22 12:35 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-06-22 09:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 19:28 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-18 06:12 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-17 22:36 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-17 15:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-18 22:43 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:21 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-19 20:10 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 06:57 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:24 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-21 09:14 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 14:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-22 09:27 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-24 08:50 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-23 20:20 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-24 03:11 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-25 07:55 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-25 13:37 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-26 08:50 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-26 17:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-27 08:21 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-27 11:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-24 19:27 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-24 14:32 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-23 22:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 05:12 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 12:15 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-25 05:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:15 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-25 07:58 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-25 13:38 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-26 08:51 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-26 17:15 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:15 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-19 19:31 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:27 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-20 20:16 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 14:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 21:59 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 13:55 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 17:05 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-22 19:38 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-24 08:54 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-23 22:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-22 21:57 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 16:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-19 20:13 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-19 06:31 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-19 13:41 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-20 07:03 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:33 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-21 09:18 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 22:02 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 17:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-24 19:31 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-25 13:41 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-25 21:13 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-26 17:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-26 16:39 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-27 11:52 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-27 10:47 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-27 20:06 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 09:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-28 08:03 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 17:06 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-27 20:04 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 09:27 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-28 19:55 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 17:09 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 14:01 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-17 15:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-17 21:30 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:24 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-19 19:25 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 14:10 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-20 20:10 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-21 21:57 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 17:06 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-18 01:30 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-18 16:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 02:29 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-19 21:18 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:54 -0500
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 00:23 -0400
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 06:24 -0400
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. Jane@home.. - 2015-06-20 21:05 +1000
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 07:31 -0400
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-06-20 05:50 -0700
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 09:41 -0400
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. Jane@home.. - 2015-06-21 09:46 +1000
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-21 07:05 -0400
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-20 05:24 -0700
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 08:29 -0400
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 12:07 -0400
Re: The Pope is ruthless and inhumane. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-06-22 07:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-20 09:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-20 21:18 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-21 15:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-22 22:19 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 17:08 -0500
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| From | "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> |
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| Date | 2015-06-20 21:18 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <5585bc7c$0$23209$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> |
| In reply to | #501444 |
"duke" skrev i meddelelsen news:g7vaoad50094ng20qjme0m1dpm4sdu6sdm@4ax.com... > > On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 02:29:25 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > wrote: > > >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen > >news:spd6oap808ul9nhhdlhog9l4ophpfi38o8@4ax.com... > >> > >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:30:20 +0200, "Malte Runz" > >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen > >> >news:1gl3oa1r31c2f9mlo12i42pnurhv4fc10f@4ax.com... > >> >> (snip) > >> Just as I poke a little fun at you but more seriously try to help you. > >> You > >> don't have to believe me. I believe. ... > > >You have shown a level of disresrespect other people that makes it > >impossible for me to believe you. > > What is a "disres-respect"? Taking the easy way out, are we? > >>Just as I poke a little fun at you but more seriously try to help you. > >>You > >>don't have to believe me. I believe Your belief that atheism has no > >> disastrous implications on your eternal demise is countered by mine > >> that > >> says that is not true. ... > > >Here we have it! 'Atheism has disastrous implications.' The mere act of > >not > >believing is a ticket to Hell. > > I told you. ... You sure did. Disagreeing with the Führer results in eternal burning. > ... That is agnostic. You atheist wannabe's live life outside the > directives given by God, and that is a sure free ticket to the fires of > hell. Do agnostics go to Hell? > > >No matter what kind of life one might have > >lived. Even a lifetime of good deeds. Nothing counts. It's the non-belief > >itself. > > Nope, pretend rejection. Define rejection. We arn't getting anywhere before you do that. > > >But back on 09.06.2015 you wrote, when we were on that topic (atheists > >doing > >good things): > > >> ...We're judged by the same presence of our actions > > > >And I replied: "Interesting. I'm sure this bit will come in very handy > >one > >of these days." > > > >Told you! > > That's exactly true. ... You're contradicting yourself again. Explain exactly what you meant when you said "We're judged by the same presence of our actions". > Finding the evidence suspect does not condemn you. Living > outside the call of God in the way you live your life is the final > determination. And only God gets a vote. Long live the Duce. > > >> >Are you listening to yourself? "the evidence based on his impact on > >> >our > >> >surroundings". "None of us know" what the impact is. Which one is it? > >> Creation, existence. The most basic question of "why"? Is there a > >> "why". > > >Blah, blah, blah. Which one is it? > > God is creator. I take that as an 'I know I fucked up when I tried to get out of a tight spot'. > >(snip) > > > >> >> >Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do. > >> >> > >> >> Yet we have the evidence you first try to hide from. > >> > >> >Oh, yes... Creation. 'Creation is PROOF of God' you said once. > >> > >> Actually I said it's "evidence of". ... > > > >No you didn't. > > > >> ... But I believe that I once made the > >> statement that the evidence is so strong that it could almost be called > >> "proof". > > > >A while back I promised you, that I'd be there every time you'd try to > >deny > >that drivel you spew. Here is what you wrote on 05.31.2015: > > > >> Creation is guaranteed PROOF of a creator. > > > >Not "evidence of" almost "proof". No. "guaranteed PROOF". That's a > >smackdown, duke. Feel free to tap out. > > > >This is what I do to you. Get used to it. You could at least thank me for correcting your flawed memory. Maybe next time. > >> >You saying it > >> >is in itself not evidence, do you agree? So what is your evidence? > >> >'Only > >> >God can create something from nothing!' How do you know? 'Nothing can > >> >come > >> >from nothing. Heeheehee'. > >> > >> Exactly. Just don't ask me how God did it. > > > >If you don't know how, why do you believe God did it? Come on, man. Put'em up. Defend yourself (snip) -- Malte Runz
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 21:18:26 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >news:g7vaoad50094ng20qjme0m1dpm4sdu6sdm@4ax.com... >> >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 02:29:25 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> wrote: >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >news:spd6oap808ul9nhhdlhog9l4ophpfi38o8@4ax.com... >> >> >> >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:30:20 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >> >news:1gl3oa1r31c2f9mlo12i42pnurhv4fc10f@4ax.com... >> >> >> > >(snip) > >> >> Just as I poke a little fun at you but more seriously try to help you. >> >> You >> >> don't have to believe me. I believe. ... >> >> >You have shown a level of disresrespect other people that makes it >> >impossible for me to believe you. >> >> What is a "disres-respect"? > >Taking the easy way out, are we? I didn't come up with that word. >> >>Just as I poke a little fun at you but more seriously try to help you. >> >>You >> >>don't have to believe me. I believe Your belief that atheism has no >> >> disastrous implications on your eternal demise is countered by mine >> >> that >> >> says that is not true. ... >> >> >Here we have it! 'Atheism has disastrous implications.' The mere act of >> >not >> >believing is a ticket to Hell. >> >> I told you. ... >You sure did. Disagreeing with the Führer results in eternal burning. >> ... That is agnostic. You atheist wannabe's live life outside the >> directives given by God, and that is a sure free ticket to the fires of >> hell. >Do agnostics go to Hell? Depends on how they live their life in the flesh. >> >No matter what kind of life one might have >> >lived. Even a lifetime of good deeds. Nothing counts. It's the non-belief >> >itself. >> >> Nope, pretend rejection. > >Define rejection. We arn't getting anywhere before you do that. I rest my case. >> >But back on 09.06.2015 you wrote, when we were on that topic (atheists >> >doing >> >good things): >> >> >> ...We're judged by the same presence of our actions >> > >> >And I replied: "Interesting. I'm sure this bit will come in very handy >> >one >> >of these days." >> > >> >Told you! >> >> That's exactly true. ... >You're contradicting yourself again. Explain exactly what you meant when you >said "We're judged by the same presence of our actions". The key to salvation is "to follow Jesus". >> Finding the evidence suspect does not condemn you. Living >> outside the call of God in the way you live your life is the final >> determination. And only God gets a vote. > >Long live the Duce. Amen. >> >> >> >Are you listening to yourself? "the evidence based on his impact on >> >> >our >> >> >surroundings". "None of us know" what the impact is. Which one is it? >> >> Creation, existence. The most basic question of "why"? Is there a >> >> "why". >> >> >Blah, blah, blah. Which one is it? >> >> God is creator. > >I take that as an 'I know I fucked up when I tried to get out of a tight >spot'. God showed me his presence. What you do about it is your problem. >> >(snip) >> > >> >> >> >Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do. >> >> >> >> >> >> Yet we have the evidence you first try to hide from. >> >> >> >> >Oh, yes... Creation. 'Creation is PROOF of God' you said once. >> >> >> >> Actually I said it's "evidence of". ... >> > >> >No you didn't. >> > >> >> ... But I believe that I once made the >> >> statement that the evidence is so strong that it could almost be called >> >> "proof". >> > >> >A while back I promised you, that I'd be there every time you'd try to >> >deny >> >that drivel you spew. Here is what you wrote on 05.31.2015: >> > >> >> Creation is guaranteed PROOF of a creator. >> > >> >Not "evidence of" almost "proof". No. "guaranteed PROOF". That's a >> >smackdown, duke. Feel free to tap out. >> > >> >This is what I do to you. Get used to it. >You could at least thank me for correcting your flawed memory. Maybe next >time. You're talking to yourself. >> >> >You saying it >> >> >is in itself not evidence, do you agree? So what is your evidence? >> >> >'Only >> >> >God can create something from nothing!' How do you know? 'Nothing can >> >> >come >> >> >from nothing. Heeheehee'. >> >> >> >> Exactly. Just don't ask me how God did it. >> > >> >If you don't know how, why do you believe God did it? > >Come on, man. Put'em up. Defend yourself I won. The contest is over. >(snip) the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> |
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| Date | 2015-06-22 22:19 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <55886dc8$0$23210$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> |
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"duke" skrev i meddelelsen news:ve6eoatfol8bj1i7t2j8ov701pgr394a85@4ax.com... > > On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 21:18:26 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > wrote: > > >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen > >news:g7vaoad50094ng20qjme0m1dpm4sdu6sdm@4ax.com... > >> > >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 02:29:25 +0200, "Malte Runz" > >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen > >> >news:spd6oap808ul9nhhdlhog9l4ophpfi38o8@4ax.com... > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:30:20 +0200, "Malte Runz" > >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen > >> >> >news:1gl3oa1r31c2f9mlo12i42pnurhv4fc10f@4ax.com... > >> >> >> > > > >(snip) > > > >> >> Just as I poke a little fun at you but more seriously try to help > >> >> you. > >> >> You > >> >> don't have to believe me. I believe. ... > >> > >> >You have shown a level of disresrespect other people that makes it > >> >impossible for me to believe you. > >> > >> What is a "disres-respect"? > > > >Taking the easy way out, are we? > > I didn't come up with that word. And you pretend to be too dumb to understand what I meant to avoid responding to my accusation. 1 - 0 (snip) > >Do agnostics go to Hell? > > Depends on how they live their life in the flesh. So I can go to heaven without believing in God and Baby Jebus? > > >> >No matter what kind of life one might have > >> >lived. Even a lifetime of good deeds. Nothing counts. It's the > >> >non-belief > >> >itself. > >> > >> Nope, pretend rejection. > > > >Define rejection. We arn't getting anywhere before you do that. > > I rest my case. 2 - 0 (snip) > >You're contradicting yourself again. Explain exactly what you meant when > >you > >said "We're judged by the same presence of our actions". > > The key to salvation is "to follow Jesus". So agnostics don't get to go to Heavan after all. 3 - 0 (snip) > >> >> >Are you listening to yourself? "the evidence based on his impact on > >> >> >our > >> >> >surroundings". "None of us know" what the impact is. Which one is > >> >> >it? > >> >> Creation, existence. The most basic question of "why"? Is there a > >> >> "why". > >> > >> >Blah, blah, blah. Which one is it? > >> > >> God is creator. > > > >I take that as an 'I know I fucked up when I tried to get out of a tight > >spot'. No denying: 4 - 0 > >> >> >> >Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Yet we have the evidence you first try to hide from. > >> >> > >> >> >Oh, yes... Creation. 'Creation is PROOF of God' you said once. > >> >> > >> >> Actually I said it's "evidence of". ... > >> > > >> >No you didn't. > >> > > >> >> ... But I believe that I once made the > >> >> statement that the evidence is so strong that it could almost be > >> >> called > >> >> "proof". > >> > > >> >A while back I promised you, that I'd be there every time you'd try to > >> >deny > >> >that drivel you spew. Here is what you wrote on 05.31.2015: > >> > > >> >> Creation is guaranteed PROOF of a creator. > >> > > >> >Not "evidence of" almost "proof". No. "guaranteed PROOF". That's a > >> >smackdown, duke. Feel free to tap out. > >> > > >> >This is what I do to you. Get used to it. > > >You could at least thank me for correcting your flawed memory. Maybe next > >time. > > You're talking to yourself. You remembered your "Creation is guaranteed PROOF of a creator" as a "statement that the evidence is so strong that it could almost be called proof". Duke! I really just want to help you. 5 - 0 > >> >> >You saying it > >> >> >is in itself not evidence, do you agree? So what is your evidence? > >> >> >'Only > >> >> >God can create something from nothing!' How do you know? 'Nothing > >> >> >can > >> >> >come > >> >> >from nothing. Heeheehee'. > >> >> > >> >> Exactly. Just don't ask me how God did it. > >> > > >> >If you don't know how, why do you believe God did it? > > > >Come on, man. Put'em up. Defend yourself. No reply: 6 - 0 > > I won. The contest is over. Giving up: 7 - 0 You may leave now. -- Malte Runz
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| Date | 2015-06-23 17:08 -0500 |
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:19:20 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >news:ve6eoatfol8bj1i7t2j8ov701pgr394a85@4ax.com... >> >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 21:18:26 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> wrote: >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >news:g7vaoad50094ng20qjme0m1dpm4sdu6sdm@4ax.com... >> >> >> >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 02:29:25 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >> >news:spd6oap808ul9nhhdlhog9l4ophpfi38o8@4ax.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:30:20 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >> >> >news:1gl3oa1r31c2f9mlo12i42pnurhv4fc10f@4ax.com... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >(snip) >> > >> >> >> Just as I poke a little fun at you but more seriously try to help >> >> >> you. >> >> >> You >> >> >> don't have to believe me. I believe. ... >> >> >> >> >You have shown a level of disresrespect other people that makes it >> >> >impossible for me to believe you. >> >> >> >> What is a "disres-respect"? >> > >> >Taking the easy way out, are we? >> >> I didn't come up with that word. > >And you pretend to be too dumb to understand what I meant to avoid >responding to my accusation. I'm mocking you. >1 - 0 > >(snip) > >> >Do agnostics go to Hell? >> >> Depends on how they live their life in the flesh. >So I can go to heaven without believing in God and Baby Jebus? Jesus said "follow me", he didn't say you had to believe in him. >> >> >No matter what kind of life one might have >> >> >lived. Even a lifetime of good deeds. Nothing counts. It's the >> >> >non-belief >> >> >itself. >> >> >> >> Nope, pretend rejection. >> > >> >Define rejection. We arn't getting anywhere before you do that. >> >> I rest my case. >2 - 0 I win hands down. > >(snip) > >> >You're contradicting yourself again. Explain exactly what you meant when >> >you >> >said "We're judged by the same presence of our actions". >> >> The key to salvation is "to follow Jesus". > >So agnostics don't get to go to Heavan after all. > >3 - 0 > >(snip) > >> >> >> >Are you listening to yourself? "the evidence based on his impact on >> >> >> >our >> >> >> >surroundings". "None of us know" what the impact is. Which one is >> >> >> >it? >> >> >> Creation, existence. The most basic question of "why"? Is there a >> >> >> "why". >> >> >> >> >Blah, blah, blah. Which one is it? >> >> >> >> God is creator. >> > >> >I take that as an 'I know I fucked up when I tried to get out of a tight >> >spot'. > >No denying: 4 - 0 > > >> >> >> >> >Without evidence not believing is the only rational thing to do. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yet we have the evidence you first try to hide from. >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh, yes... Creation. 'Creation is PROOF of God' you said once. >> >> >> >> >> >> Actually I said it's "evidence of". ... >> >> > >> >> >No you didn't. >> >> > >> >> >> ... But I believe that I once made the >> >> >> statement that the evidence is so strong that it could almost be >> >> >> called >> >> >> "proof". >> >> > >> >> >A while back I promised you, that I'd be there every time you'd try to >> >> >deny >> >> >that drivel you spew. Here is what you wrote on 05.31.2015: >> >> > >> >> >> Creation is guaranteed PROOF of a creator. >> >> > >> >> >Not "evidence of" almost "proof". No. "guaranteed PROOF". That's a >> >> >smackdown, duke. Feel free to tap out. >> >> > >> >> >This is what I do to you. Get used to it. >> >> >You could at least thank me for correcting your flawed memory. Maybe next >> >time. >> >> You're talking to yourself. > >You remembered your "Creation is guaranteed PROOF of a creator" as a >"statement that the evidence is so strong that it could almost be called >proof". > >Duke! I really just want to help you. > >5 - 0 > > >> >> >> >You saying it >> >> >> >is in itself not evidence, do you agree? So what is your evidence? >> >> >> >'Only >> >> >> >God can create something from nothing!' How do you know? 'Nothing >> >> >> >can >> >> >> >come >> >> >> >from nothing. Heeheehee'. >> >> >> >> >> >> Exactly. Just don't ask me how God did it. >> >> > >> >> >If you don't know how, why do you believe God did it? >> > >> >Come on, man. Put'em up. Defend yourself. > >No reply: 6 - 0 > >> >> I won. The contest is over. > >Giving up: 7 - 0 > >You may leave now. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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