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  Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-05 12:40 -0700
    Re: Stars Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 14:50 -0500
    Re: Stars Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-05 15:45 -0500
      Re: Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-05 14:22 -0700
        Re: Stars "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-06-05 17:52 -0400
          Re: Stars Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-05 16:54 -0500
          Re: Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-05 15:41 -0700
          Re: Stars William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 18:52 -0400
      Re: Stars "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-06-05 17:47 -0400
      Re: Stars Forehead <head@4the.hills> - 2015-06-05 18:24 -0500
        Re: Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-05 23:35 -0700
          Re: Stars "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-06-06 04:12 -0400
          Re: Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-06 12:32 -0700
            Re: Stars Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-06-06 15:04 -0500
            Re: Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-07 00:12 -0700
              Re: Stars Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 08:37 -0500
                Re: Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-07 12:40 -0700
                  Re: Stars Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 20:33 -0500
                    Re: Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-07 18:43 -0700
                      Re: Stars Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-07 20:58 -0500
                        Re: Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-08 13:48 -0700
                      Re: Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-08 13:55 -0700
                        Re: Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-08 13:56 -0700
                          Re: Stars Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-08 21:54 -0500
                        Re: Stars The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-08 18:14 -0700

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#497980 — Stars

Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.

It means...
when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.


You're been told many times 
that Stars explode.

Stars do not explode.


When a star runs out of fuel..
it does not explode.

A car runs out of fuel
and it doesn't explode...

The car does not explode.

The Star does not explode.


The Starmaker

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#497983

This response is not for the original poster (op), but for those that
appreciate a bit of stellar evolution at the freshman overview level.



> Review of the Final States of Stars
>
> Star are born and stars die... just like us. The big massive stars have
> but short lives, a few millions of years. Stars like our sun last for a
> good 10 billions of years, and the little red stars like Barnard's Star
> might last for 100 billion years. How long stars live, is determined by
> their mass (which must be at least 80 Jupiter masses to sustain
> thermonuclear fusion of hydrogen).
>
> There are four (4) fates for the end of stars depending on their masses
> and the masses of their cores:
>
> Red/Brown Dwarfs - less than 0.076 Ms  <==   Main Sequence 0.076-0.8 Ms
>
> Stars less than about 0.6 solar masses, when nuclear fuel is used up,
> gravitational collapse shrinks the star, but no more than the gas
> temperature-pressure-volume laws of classical physics allow. We have
> not found any white dwarf less massive than 0.6 solar masses. Part of
> the answer is that the universe may not be old enough for lower mass
> stars to have evolved off the main sequence.
>
> White Dwarfs - 0.08 and 1.44 Ms  <==   Main Sequence 0.8-8 Ms
>
> Stars with core masses between 0.08 and 1.44 solar masses are
> destined to become white dwarfs. White dwarfs are degenerate matter.
> Further collapse is halted by electron degeneracy pressure. See pages
> 456-459 in your textbook. The vast majority of stars are in this mass
> range and are destined to become white dwarfs.
>


   The following core collapses result in Type II supernova explosions.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova

> Neutron Stars - 1.44 and 2.9 Ms  <==   Main Sequence 8-30 Ms
> Core masses between 1.44 and 2.9 solar masses overcome electron
> degeneracy pressure and collapse to form neutron stars, a star that is
> essentially one gigantic nucleus. Further collapse is halted by neutron
> degeneracy pressure.
>
> Black Holes - 3 or more Ms  <==   Main Sequence > 30 Ms
> But for cores with mass of 3 or more solar masses, neutron
> degeneracy pressure does not stop the collapse and the star becomes a
> black hole with zero physical size, but with all the mass. Gravity
> really wins!
>
> In each case, gravity eventually wins. But, to what extent is
> determined by the mass and the relative pressures of the quantum
> mechanical forces, electron and neutron degeneracy pressure.


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#498005

On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.
>
> It means...
> when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.
>
>
> You're been told many times
> that Stars explode.
>
> Stars do not explode.
>
>
> When a star runs out of fuel..
> it does not explode.
>
> A car runs out of fuel
> and it doesn't explode...
>
> The car does not explode.
>
> The Star does not explode.
>
>
> The Starmaker
>

a car is not a star.  they are two letters different.

if your stars run on fuel, how do you fill it up at the gas station ?


don't you have a fuel gauge on your star, Mr. S. Maker ?

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#498029

Sesiom wrote:
> 
> On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.
> >
> > It means...
> > when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.
> >
> >
> > You're been told many times
> > that Stars explode.
> >
> > Stars do not explode.
> >
> >
> > When a star runs out of fuel..
> > it does not explode.
> >
> > A car runs out of fuel
> > and it doesn't explode...
> >
> > The car does not explode.
> >
> > The Star does not explode.
> >
> >
> > The Starmaker
> >
> 
> a car is not a star.  they are two letters different.
> 
> if your stars run on fuel, how do you fill it up at the gas station ?
> 
> don't you have a fuel gauge on your star, Mr. S. Maker ?


Stars get their fuel the same way a car does...fuel injected.


In otherwords...the sun gets it fuel directly "injected" *into* the sun.


If the sun doesn't continue to recieve fuel injected into it, it then
begings
to use up it's internal fuel until the car gas tank is ...empty.


The Starmaker

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#498038

The Starmaker wrote:
> Sesiom wrote:
>>
>> On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.
>>>
>>> It means...
>>> when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.
>>>
>>>
>>> You're been told many times
>>> that Stars explode.
>>>
>>> Stars do not explode.
>>>
>>>
>>> When a star runs out of fuel..
>>> it does not explode.
>>>
>>> A car runs out of fuel
>>> and it doesn't explode...
>>>
>>> The car does not explode.
>>>
>>> The Star does not explode.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Starmaker
>>>
>>
>> a car is not a star.  they are two letters different.
>>
>> if your stars run on fuel, how do you fill it up at the gas station ?
>>
>> don't you have a fuel gauge on your star, Mr. S. Maker ?
>
>
> Stars get their fuel the same way a car does...fuel injected.
>
>
> In otherwords...the sun gets it fuel directly "injected" *into* the sun.
>
>
> If the sun doesn't continue to recieve fuel injected into it, it then
> begings
> to use up it's internal fuel until the car gas tank is ...empty.
>
>
> The Starmaker





I'm guessing this information is taken directly from the book,...." flat 
earth physics for dummys "

But Stars aren't fuel injected, they are solar powered. 

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#498039

On 6/5/2015 4:52 PM, Bast wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>> Sesiom wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.
>>>>
>>>> It means...
>>>> when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.

>>>>
>>>> You're been told many times
>>>> that Stars explode.

>>>> Stars do not explode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When a star runs out of fuel..
>>>> it does not explode.

>>>> A car runs out of fuel
>>>> and it doesn't explode...
>>>>
>>>> The car does not explode.

>>>> The Star does not explode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker
>>>>

>>> a car is not a star.  they are two letters different.
>>>
>>> if your stars run on fuel, how do you fill it up at the gas station ?
>>>
>>> don't you have a fuel gauge on your star, Mr. S. Maker ?
>>
>>
>> Stars get their fuel the same way a car does...fuel injected.

>>
>> In otherwords...the sun gets it fuel directly "injected" *into* the sun.
>>

>> If the sun doesn't continue to recieve fuel injected into it, it then
>> begings
>> to use up it's internal fuel until the car gas tank is ...empty.
>>
>>
>> The Starmaker
>

>
>
>
> I'm guessing this information is taken directly from the book,...." flat
> earth physics for dummys "
>
> But Stars aren't fuel injected, they are solar powered.
>
>

      good point !

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#498059

Bast wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Sesiom wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.
> >>>
> >>> It means...
> >>> when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're been told many times
> >>> that Stars explode.
> >>>
> >>> Stars do not explode.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> When a star runs out of fuel..
> >>> it does not explode.
> >>>
> >>> A car runs out of fuel
> >>> and it doesn't explode...
> >>>
> >>> The car does not explode.
> >>>
> >>> The Star does not explode.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Starmaker
> >>>
> >>
> >> a car is not a star.  they are two letters different.
> >>
> >> if your stars run on fuel, how do you fill it up at the gas station ?
> >>
> >> don't you have a fuel gauge on your star, Mr. S. Maker ?
> >
> >
> > Stars get their fuel the same way a car does...fuel injected.
> >
> >
> > In otherwords...the sun gets it fuel directly "injected" *into* the sun.
> >
> >
> > If the sun doesn't continue to recieve fuel injected into it, it then
> > begings
> > to use up it's internal fuel until the car gas tank is ...empty.
> >
> >
> > The Starmaker
> 
> I'm guessing this information is taken directly from the book,...." flat
> earth physics for dummys "
> 
> But Stars aren't fuel injected, they are solar powered.

I understand what you have been told..
I understand how your native scientific community thinks...but they are wrong!
And when they are wrong, you become wrong.

I'm here to straighten you guys out. 

Tell you what others don't dare tell you...like the truth, ...


The Starmaker...where stars are made ..

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#498063

Bast wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
>> Sesiom wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.
>>>>
>>>> It means...
>>>> when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're been told many times
>>>> that Stars explode.
>>>>
>>>> Stars do not explode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When a star runs out of fuel..
>>>> it does not explode.
>>>>
>>>> A car runs out of fuel
>>>> and it doesn't explode...
>>>>
>>>> The car does not explode.
>>>>
>>>> The Star does not explode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker
>>>>
>>>
>>> a car is not a star.  they are two letters different.
>>>
>>> if your stars run on fuel, how do you fill it up at the gas station ?
>>>
>>> don't you have a fuel gauge on your star, Mr. S. Maker ?
>>
>>
>> Stars get their fuel the same way a car does...fuel injected.
>>
>>
>> In otherwords...the sun gets it fuel directly "injected" *into* the sun.
>>
>>
>> If the sun doesn't continue to recieve fuel injected into it, it then
>> begings
>> to use up it's internal fuel until the car gas tank is ...empty.
>>
>>
>> The Starmaker
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm guessing this information is taken directly from the book,...." flat 
> earth physics for dummys "
>
> But Stars aren't fuel injected, they are solar powered.

Isaac Newton said fuel burnt by the Sun is replaced by comets.

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#498037

Sesiom wrote:
> On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.
>>
>> It means...
>> when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.
>>
>>
>> You're been told many times
>> that Stars explode.
>>
>> Stars do not explode.
>>
>>
>> When a star runs out of fuel..
>> it does not explode.
>>
>> A car runs out of fuel
>> and it doesn't explode...
>>
>> The car does not explode.
>>
>> The Star does not explode.
>>
>>
>> The Starmaker
>>
>
> a car is not a star.  they are two letters different.
>
> if your stars run on fuel, how do you fill it up at the gas station ?
>
>
> don't you have a fuel gauge on your star, Mr. S. Maker ?



DOH !
Stars are solar powered. 

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#498069

  On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
  Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.

  It means...
  when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.
  You're been told many times
  that Stars explode.
  Stars do not explode.
When a star runs out of fuel..
it does not explode.

  The Starmaker


Stars do not explode? That's a new one on me.
I guess Supernovas are just an illusion.
http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/what-is-a-supernova.html

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#498120

Forehead wrote:
> 
>   On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>   Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.
> 
>   It means...
>   when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.
>   You're been told many times
>   that Stars explode.
>   Stars do not explode.
> When a star runs out of fuel..
> it does not explode.
> 
>   The Starmaker
> 
> Stars do not explode? That's a new one on me.
> I guess Supernovas are just an illusion.
> http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/what-is-a-supernova.html

It looks like a picture of a big sun...couldn't it be an implosion?


I notice that *most* information posted on the web from the science community usually do not contain an authors name..why is that?


reminds me of that joke "Why do doctors wear masks?"



and wiki is filled with anonymous authors...filled!

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#498122

The Starmaker wrote:
> Forehead wrote:
>>
>>   On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>   Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.
>>
>>   It means...
>>   when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.
>>   You're been told many times
>>   that Stars explode.
>>   Stars do not explode.
>> When a star runs out of fuel..
>> it does not explode.
>>
>>   The Starmaker
>>
>> Stars do not explode? That's a new one on me.
>> I guess Supernovas are just an illusion.
>> http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/what-is-a-supernova.html
>
> It looks like a picture of a big sun...couldn't it be an implosion?
>
>
> I notice that *most* information posted on the web from the science
> community usually do not contain an authors name..why is that?
>
>
> reminds me of that joke "Why do doctors wear masks?"
>
>
>
> and wiki is filled with anonymous authors...filled!



The last place anyone should seek knowledge from is "Wiki "
But that doesn't mean the rest of the internet is wrong. 

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#498255

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Forehead wrote:
> >
> >   On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >   Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.
> >
> >   It means...
> >   when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.
> >   You're been told many times
> >   that Stars explode.
> >   Stars do not explode.
> > When a star runs out of fuel..
> > it does not explode.
> >
> >   The Starmaker
> >
> > Stars do not explode? That's a new one on me.
> > I guess Supernovas are just an illusion.
> > http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/what-is-a-supernova.html
> 
> It looks like a picture of a big sun...couldn't it be an implosion?
> 
> I notice that *most* information posted on the web from the science community usually do not contain an authors name..why is that?
> 
> reminds me of that joke "Why do doctors wear masks?"
> 
> and wiki is filled with anonymous authors...filled!



Let me put it this way....
by now
all the stars 
would
have
run out of fuel
at the same time
so..they should all
be exploding 
at the same time..
and the night sky 
would be white...
but it's not.

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#498264

   Barnard's star, being 0.14 Solar masses will likely be on the main
   sequence for a total of 100 billion years before petering out.

   The only stars with enough mass to explode are stars with eight solar
   masses and more. The leaves our sun with no possibility of exploding.

   Main Sequence
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_sequence

   Barnard's Star
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star



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#498351

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Forehead wrote:
> > >
> > >   On 6/5/2015 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >   Do you see my handle? It reads 'The Starmaker'.
> > >
> > >   It means...
> > >   when it comes to ...stars, i'm an expert.
> > >   You're been told many times
> > >   that Stars explode.
> > >   Stars do not explode.
> > > When a star runs out of fuel..
> > > it does not explode.
> > >
> > >   The Starmaker
> > >
> > > Stars do not explode? That's a new one on me.
> > > I guess Supernovas are just an illusion.
> > > http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/what-is-a-supernova.html
> >
> > It looks like a picture of a big sun...couldn't it be an implosion?
> >
> > I notice that *most* information posted on the web from the science community usually do not contain an authors name..why is that?
> >
> > reminds me of that joke "Why do doctors wear masks?"
> >
> > and wiki is filled with anonymous authors...filled!
> 
> Let me put it this way....
> by now
> all the stars
> would
> have
> run out of fuel
> at the same time
> so..they should all
> be exploding
> at the same time..
> and the night sky
> would be white...
> but it's not.



also some stars are ...reborn. They become bigger stars.

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#498394

On 6/7/15 2:12 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> also some stars are ...reborn. They become bigger stars.

   This is observed in globular clusters--main sequence star mergers.

   Blue straggler
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_straggler

> Blue stragglers (BSS) are main-sequence stars in open or globular
> clusters that are more luminous and bluer than stars at the
> main-sequence turn-off point for the cluster. Blue stragglers were
> first discovered by Allan Sandage in 1953 while performing photometry
> of the stars in the globular cluster M3.[2][3] Standard theories of
> stellar evolution hold that the position of a star on the
> Hertzsprung–Russell diagram should be determined almost entirely by
> the initial mass of the star and its age. In a cluster, stars all
> formed at approximately the same time, and thus in an H–R diagram for
> a cluster, all stars should lie along a clearly defined curve set by
> the age of the cluster, with the positions of individual stars on
> that curve determined solely by their initial mass. With masses two
> to three times that of the rest of the main-sequence cluster stars,
> blue stragglers seem to be exceptions to this rule.[4] The resolution
> of this problem is likely related to interactions between two or more
> stars in the dense confines of the clusters in which blue stragglers
> are found.

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#498482

Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 6/7/15 2:12 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > also some stars are ...reborn. They become bigger stars.
> 
>    This is observed in globular clusters--main sequence star mergers.

Well, my sources of information doesn't come from the internet or any media on earth...


I can take it a step further...a level..higher..but your sources of information has it's limits...
so you won't find it here on earth..

The stars, our sun...is 'aware' of the earth. In other words, the sun has ...consciousness.


All stars contain...consciousness.


The Starmaker


but maybe i should keep the subject of stars at a level of your understanding...like google links.





> 
>    Blue straggler
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_straggler
> 
> > Blue stragglers (BSS) are main-sequence stars in open or globular
> > clusters that are more luminous and bluer than stars at the
> > main-sequence turn-off point for the cluster. Blue stragglers were
> > first discovered by Allan Sandage in 1953 while performing photometry
> > of the stars in the globular cluster M3.[2][3] Standard theories of
> > stellar evolution hold that the position of a star on the
> > Hertzsprung–Russell diagram should be determined almost entirely by
> > the initial mass of the star and its age. In a cluster, stars all
> > formed at approximately the same time, and thus in an H–R diagram for
> > a cluster, all stars should lie along a clearly defined curve set by
> > the age of the cluster, with the positions of individual stars on
> > that curve determined solely by their initial mass. With masses two
> > to three times that of the rest of the main-sequence cluster stars,
> > blue stragglers seem to be exceptions to this rule.[4] The resolution
> > of this problem is likely related to interactions between two or more
> > stars in the dense confines of the clusters in which blue stragglers
> > are found.
> 
> --
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion
> of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related
> social issues.

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#498546

On 6/7/15 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The stars, our sun...is 'aware' of the earth. In other words, the sun has ...consciousness.


   You don't say -- hopefully our sun wound puff up and vaporize
   the earth someday.

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#498550

Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 6/7/15 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The stars, our sun...is 'aware' of the earth. In other words, the sun has ...consciousness.
> 
>    You don't say -- hopefully our sun wound puff up and vaporize
>    the earth someday.
> 


but you wrote: "That leaves our sun with no possibility of exploding."


ain't you contradicting yourself??...


without links, you're lost...ain't you?

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#498557

On 6/7/2015 8:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>> On 6/7/15 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The stars, our sun...is 'aware' of the earth. In other words, the sun has ...consciousness.
>>
>>     You don't say -- hopefully our sun wound puff up and vaporize
>>     the earth someday.
>>
>
>
> but you wrote: "That leaves our sun with no possibility of exploding."
>
>
> ain't you contradicting yourself??...
>
>
> without links, you're lost...ain't you?
>


            "ain't you?"

please use the Queen's English correctly.

you may not know any physics, but you could use an on-line English 
checker. Your English is more worser than Wormleys.

you not know Engrlish that good ither,  you Russian or Rastafari ?

a good learning lession for you

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