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| Started by | James Birdy <dwuih2ht@djh3jg3ugh08.org> |
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| First post | 2015-08-22 20:28 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-08-24 13:48 -0400 |
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Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <dwuih2ht@djh3jg3ugh08.org> - 2015-08-22 20:28 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 20:34 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 20:41 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 21:16 -0500
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:23 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:29 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:31 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:37 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-24 11:17 -0400
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 20:46 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-22 20:44 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 20:54 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:11 -0500
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:22 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:29 -0500
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:33 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:35 -0500
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:38 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 17:00 -0700
Re: Are there electrons that are different? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 07:11 -0400
Re: Are there electrons that are different? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 23:54 -0400
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-22 23:41 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:28 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:17 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 16:25 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:40 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:51 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 17:03 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 18:50 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:07 -0500
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 19:10 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 19:24 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 19:59 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:12 -0700
Re: Are there electrons that are different? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:14 -0700
Re: Are there electrons that are different? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-26 10:51 -0700
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 20:35 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 15:54 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 16:45 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 19:08 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 20:18 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 20:46 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 21:10 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 21:53 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 21:58 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 23:45 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 23:43 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-25 16:13 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-26 02:20 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-22 20:55 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:02 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:08 -0500
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:11 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:13 -0500
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-22 23:43 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:43 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 16:29 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-23 01:54 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:47 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 17:35 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 15:51 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:05 -0700
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:15 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:20 -0700
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 18:56 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:08 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:30 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 23:15 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:24 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-23 06:44 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 09:55 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 11:18 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-22 21:24 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-22 21:27 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-23 01:40 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-08-23 17:06 +1000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:53 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:55 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 19:27 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 18:44 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 19:25 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-24 16:18 -0400
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 20:40 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 22:20 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 12:53 -0400
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:54 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 16:53 -0700
Re: Are there electrons that are different? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 06:23 -0400
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:11 -0500
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 14:18 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 17:24 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:40 -0500
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 17:55 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:18 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:32 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 18:33 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 21:59 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 20:06 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 22:06 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 12:02 -0400
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:09 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:16 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 16:37 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:50 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 18:46 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 21:52 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 20:03 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 22:04 +0200
Re: Are there electrons that are different? James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> - 2015-08-24 20:21 +0000
Re: Are there electrons that are different? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 10:14 -0700
Re: Are there electrons that are different? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-24 13:48 -0400
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| From | James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 15:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrfeik$jj1$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #516464 |
*/Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote: > The ’nym-shifting troll posting as "James Birdy" amok-crossposted: > >> */Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote: >>> James Birdy amok-crossposted: >>>> */Sam Wormley/* wrote: >>>>> You get a lot more electron into "your system" when the humidity >>>>> is low in winter and you get zapped touching animals and door >>>>> knobs. >>>> You can't, wearing your thick insulator shows, as being at same >>>> potential. >>> >>> You have it backwards. It is the soles of shoes that continuously >>> cause friction, and thereby static electricity (separation of charges) >>> in the first place. It is the insulating rubber that prevents >>> immediate electric discharge (balancing of charges), so the static >>> electricity builds up (in the body). It is the non-insulating hand >>> that allows electrical discharge, >> >> That's exactly what is been said, > > Not by you. You *denied* that one would “get a lot more electron into > "your system"” by getting “zapped touching animals and door knobs” > (under said conditions). Because you replied to that claim: “you can’t, > wearing your thick insulator shoes” and blathered something about “same > potential” > (which is the opposite of what is happening: if the potential were the > same, there would not be a build-up of static electricity *with* rubber > shoes; *insulating* rubber shoes are used *in the laboratory*, for a > quite *different* purpose – you are confusing the facts). > > So yes, you *can*, and you were *wrong*. It is possible (though > unlikely, given your history here) that you denied the claim because you > did not understand what was being claimed (I have already told you that > you have an abysmally low understanding of English and physics), but > that does not make your denial disappear. > > PointedEars Reread my post, you bleep bleep. You are the one inadequate and unprepared. The proof for this is also, that you write much and insignificant. Write less. I stop reading right after your first stupid thing.
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 09:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <58c6cc6b-b906-496b-8047-b43dc73bb81d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #516469 |
On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 11:51:55 AM UTC-4, James Birdy wrote: > */Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote: > > > The 'nym-shifting troll posting as "James Birdy" amok-crossposted: Thanks pointing that out for that Thomas. I was getting tired. > >> */Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote: > >>> James Birdy amok-crossposted: > >>>> */Sam Wormley/* wrote: > >>>>> You get a lot more electron into "your system" when the humidity > >>>>> is low in winter and you get zapped touching animals and door > >>>>> knobs. > >>>> You can't, wearing your thick insulator shows, as being at same > >>>> potential. > >>> > >>> You have it backwards. It is the soles of shoes that continuously > >>> cause friction, and thereby static electricity (separation of charges) > >>> in the first place. It is the insulating rubber that prevents > >>> immediate electric discharge (balancing of charges), so the static > >>> electricity builds up (in the body). It is the non-insulating hand > >>> that allows electrical discharge, > >> > >> That's exactly what is been said, > > > > Not by you. You *denied* that one would "get a lot more electron into > > "your system"" by getting "zapped touching animals and door knobs" > > (under said conditions). Because you replied to that claim: "you can't, > > wearing your thick insulator shoes" and blathered something about "same > > potential" > > (which is the opposite of what is happening: if the potential were the > > same, there would not be a build-up of static electricity *with* rubber > > shoes; *insulating* rubber shoes are used *in the laboratory*, for a > > quite *different* purpose - you are confusing the facts). > > > > So yes, you *can*, and you were *wrong*. It is possible (though > > unlikely, given your history here) that you denied the claim because you > > did not understand what was being claimed (I have already told you that > > you have an abysmally low understanding of English and physics), but > > that does not make your denial disappear. > > > > PointedEars > > Reread my post, you bleep bleep. You are the one inadequate and > unprepared. The proof for this is also, that you write much and > insignificant. Write less. I stop reading right after your first stupid > thing. Hey Birdy, I'm Virdy! How you doing? Long time... who you've been? To be precisely accurate, Thomas Lahn uses fewer words than you do use nym shifting identities BirdyBrain. -- Mahipal '@#BirdyBrainNotOnTweetItHereJustNowBeReal' Virdy
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| From | James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 16:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrffu8$m0d$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #516480 |
*/Mahipal/* wrote: >> Reread my post, you bleep bleep. You are the one inadequate and >> unprepared. The proof for this is also, that you write much and >> insignificant. Write less. I stop reading right after your first stupid >> thing. > > Hey Birdy, I'm Virdy! How you doing? Long time... who you've been? > > To be precisely accurate, Thomas Lahn uses fewer words than you do use > nym shifting identities BirdyBrain. Bleep bleep, mahipal. I can't make it shorter. Your name is just as bleep stupid "pointedears" is.
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 10:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3b5eda6a-6565-4d01-8ec8-c3dfef7bbc4f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #516486 |
On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 12:15:10 PM UTC-4, James Birdy wrote: > */Mahipal/* wrote: > > >> Reread my post, you bleep bleep. You are the one inadequate and > >> unprepared. The proof for this is also, that you write much and > >> insignificant. Write less. I stop reading right after your first stupid > >> thing. > > > > Hey Birdy, I'm Virdy! How you doing? Long time... who you've been? > > > > To be precisely accurate, Thomas Lahn uses fewer words than you do use > > nym shifting identities BirdyBrain. > > Bleep bleep, mahipal. I can't make it shorter. Your name is just as bleep > stupid "pointedears" is. My name is Mahipal, use the proper Capitalization, since you also lost an as. I read Thomas all the time, his contributions are teachable moments. -- Mahipal 'Just because humans can misspell, does not mean they should.'
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| From | James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 18:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrfpcc$f63$4@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #516523 |
*/Mahipal/* wrote: > I read Thomas all the time, his contributions are teachable moments. Which just reveals your level in stupidity.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 18:08 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1471032.rkNZHMFi5S@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #516469 |
The ’nym-shifting troll amok-crossposted as "James Birdy":
> */Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote:
>> […] You *denied* that one would “get a lot more electron into
>> "your system"” by getting “zapped touching animals and door knobs”
>> (under said conditions). Because you replied to that claim: “you can’t,
>> wearing your thick insulator shoes” and blathered something about “same
>> potential” (which is the opposite of what is happening: if the potential
>> were the same, there would not be a build-up of static electricity *with*
>> rubber shoes; *insulating* rubber shoes are used *in the laboratory*, for
>> a quite *different* purpose – you are confusing the facts). […]
>
> Reread my post, you […]
Again, for the intellectual protozoa among us.
Facts:
- Sam said: “You get a lot more electron into "your system" when the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
humidity is low in winter and you get zapped touching animals and
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
door knobs.”
- You denied that: “You can't, wearing your thick insulator shows,
^^^^^^^^^
as being at same potential.”
Analysis:
What you posted was such nonsense that it was not even wrong.
PointedEars
--
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
testing your knowledge means everything.”
—Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)
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| From | James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 16:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrfgrf$qf8$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #516485 |
*/Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote: > - Sam said: “You get a lot more electron into "your system" when the > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > humidity is low in winter and you get zapped touching animals > and ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ door knobs.” > > - You denied that: “You can't, wearing your thick insulator shows, > ^^^^^^^^^ > as being at same potential.” > > Analysis: > What you posted was such nonsense that it was not even wrong. What a cretin. I meant the phenomenon posed as original. And yes, no electron pass from Ground into your body by wearing insulator shoes (all shoes nowadays are insulators). Even touching 10kV DC or the 220 V AC (by one hand)
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-22 23:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mraon5$kvf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #515846 |
Dne 22/08/2015 v 22:28 James Birdy napsal(a): > Are there electrons that are different? I hear stories that walking > barefoot has surprisingly health benefits. As I understood, electrically, > the insulator of the shoes taken away, the electrons from Earth are > getting up into your system. Performing whatever beneficial as they did in > old ages (millions of years). I mean, only humans are using shoes, which > might be seen as a barrier for the free natural electrons (charge carriers) > All electrons are the same at the same conditions. The point is, they are not at the same conditions. They are at different potentials, depending where they are. Earth surface is usually negatively charged, and if we are well isolated, we are exposed to more positive potential due atmospheric electrostatic gradient. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )
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| From | James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-22 21:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrapas$931$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #515870 |
*/Poutnik/* wrote: > Dne 22/08/2015 v 22:28 James Birdy napsal(a): >> Are there electrons that are different? I hear stories that walking >> barefoot has surprisingly health benefits. As I understood, >> electrically, the insulator of the shoes taken away, the electrons from >> Earth are getting up into your system. Performing whatever beneficial >> as they did in old ages (millions of years). I mean, only humans are >> using shoes, which might be seen as a barrier for the free natural >> electrons (charge carriers) >> > All electrons are the same at the same conditions. > The point is, they are not at the same conditions. > They are at different potentials, depending where they are. > Earth surface is usually negatively charged, > and if we are well isolated, > we are exposed to more positive potential due atmospheric electrostatic > gradient. This has to be a correct observation Poutnik. Thank you for that.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 06:44 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d3t1d3FlengU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #515870 |
Am 22.08.2015 23:15, schrieb Poutnik: >> Are there electrons that are different? I hear stories that walking >> barefoot has surprisingly health benefits. As I understood, electrically, >> the insulator of the shoes taken away, the electrons from Earth are >> getting up into your system. Performing whatever beneficial as they did in >> old ages (millions of years). I mean, only humans are using shoes, which >> might be seen as a barrier for the free natural electrons (charge carriers) >> > > All electrons are the same at the same conditions. > The point is, they are not at the same conditions. > > They are at different potentials, depending where they are. > > Earth surface is usually negatively charged, > and if we are well isolated, > we are exposed to more positive potential > due atmospheric electrostatic gradient. > Now the question: does a negative charge or a positive charge provide more benefits for the human health? As rough estimate, drawn from my own (not very systematic) observations, I would prefer positive charge. So: insulation (by means of shoes) would actually enhance health. And walking barefoot would make you loose 'valuable' ions ;-) TH
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 09:55 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mrbu6d$2tm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #515870 |
Dne 22/08/2015 v 23:15 Poutnik napsal(a): > Dne 22/08/2015 v 22:28 James Birdy napsal(a): >> Are there electrons that are different? I hear stories that walking >> barefoot has surprisingly health benefits. As I understood, electrically, >> the insulator of the shoes taken away, the electrons from Earth are >> getting up into your system. Performing whatever beneficial as they did in >> old ages (millions of years). I mean, only humans are using shoes, which >> might be seen as a barrier for the free natural electrons (charge carriers) >> > > All electrons are the same at the same conditions. > The point is, they are not at the same conditions. > > They are at different potentials, depending where they are. > > Earth surface is usually negatively charged, > and if we are well isolated, > we are exposed to more positive potential > due atmospheric electrostatic gradient. > Of course, as Thomas said, major factor in context of human body is friction. There is also additional effect of charge reversal near cumulonimbus at storms. -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 11:18 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mrc316$jlf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #516004 |
Dne 23/08/2015 v 09:55 Poutnik napsal(a): > Dne 22/08/2015 v 23:15 Poutnik napsal(a): >> Dne 22/08/2015 v 22:28 James Birdy napsal(a): >>> Are there electrons that are different? I hear stories that walking >>> barefoot has surprisingly health benefits. As I understood, electrically, >>> the insulator of the shoes taken away, the electrons from Earth are >>> getting up into your system. Performing whatever beneficial as they did in >>> old ages (millions of years). I mean, only humans are using shoes, which >>> might be seen as a barrier for the free natural electrons (charge carriers) >>> >> >> All electrons are the same at the same conditions. >> The point is, they are not at the same conditions. >> >> They are at different potentials, depending where they are. >> >> Earth surface is usually negatively charged, >> and if we are well isolated, >> we are exposed to more positive potential >> due atmospheric electrostatic gradient. >> > Of course, as Thomas said, > major factor in context of human body is friction. > > There is also additional effect > of charge reversal near cumulonimbus at storms. > P.S.: There are large scale charge atmospheric patterns superimposed by local friction patterns. The former cause bigger differences, but as the gradients are much weaker then at the latter, the observed local effect is usually much weaker as well. ( with few exceptions like lightnings or St. Elmo's fire.) -- Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-08-22 21:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.08.22.21.22.55@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #515846 |
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:28:44 +0000, James Birdy wrote: > I hear stories that walking > barefoot has surprisingly health benefits. > Here is something they make just for asshole idiots like you: http://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Foot-Insoles-Magnet-Inserts/dp/B001B3PO3S So get out your credit card, sucker, and buy 'em by the case. Dumb-fuck fool.
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| From | James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-22 21:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrapgh$931$3@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #515873 |
*/Fabian Russell/* wrote: > On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:28:44 +0000, James Birdy wrote: > >> I hear stories that walking barefoot has surprisingly health benefits. >> > Here is something they make just for asshole idiots like you: > http://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Foot-Insoles-Magnet-Inserts/dp/B001B3PO3S > So get out your credit card, sucker, and buy 'em by the case. I see you bought yourself already that. Otherwise how would you possibly know. You must be a real cretin, not a one trying to just mimic one.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 01:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <2384836.kOX6WIc96a@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #515846 |
James Birdy wrote:
> Are there electrons that are different?
Yes.
> I hear stories that walking barefoot has surprisingly health benefits.
It does. But non sequitur.
> As I understood, electrically, the insulator of the shoes taken away, the
> electrons from Earth are getting up into your system.
Not even wrong. Now go away, 'nym-shifting troll.
PointedEars
--
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
testing your knowledge means everything.”
—Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 17:06 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <d3t9o7Fn8hgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #515846 |
On 23/08/2015 6:28 AM, James Birdy wrote: > Are there electrons that are different? I hear stories that walking > barefoot has surprisingly health benefits. As I understood, electrically, > the insulator of the shoes taken away, the electrons from Earth are > getting up into your system. Performing whatever beneficial as they did in > old ages (millions of years). I mean, only humans are using shoes, which > might be seen as a barrier for the free natural electrons (charge carriers) > Even had it been the case that electrons got taken up by bare feet (a highly improbable scenario), they would have migrated to the surface of the skin [*], which consists of dead tissue. Apart from repelling the odd blood-sucking insect that had happened to have acquired a negative charge, it's hard to see what benefit could have accrued. Sylvia. [*] The net charge of any electrically conductive object is expressed on its surface because of electric repulsion.
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| From | James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 14:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrfb5i$al9$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #515994 |
*/Sylvia Else/* wrote: > On 23/08/2015 6:28 AM, James Birdy wrote: >> Are there electrons that are different? I hear stories that walking >> barefoot has surprisingly health benefits. As I understood, >> electrically, the insulator of the shoes taken away, the electrons from >> Earth are getting up into your system. Performing whatever beneficial >> as they did in old ages (millions of years). I mean, only humans are >> using shoes, which might be seen as a barrier for the free natural >> electrons (charge carriers) >> >> > Even had it been the case that electrons got taken up by bare feet (a > highly improbable scenario), they would have migrated to the surface of > the skin [*], which consists of dead tissue. Apart from repelling the > odd blood-sucking insect that had happened to have acquired a negative > charge, it's hard to see what benefit could have accrued. > > Sylvia. Dear Sylvia. You are severely uneducated. What you just said is just so wrong. Human body has a Resistance, which accordingly its adherent Resistivity decrease with the contact surface/area, say for now, in the region of 500kOhm. (the palm of two feet is a quite large contact area). More over the Static positive Potential of the body may rise up to MANY kilovolts! > [*] The net charge of any electrically conductive object is expressed on > its surface because of electric repulsion. Not sure. Or I can't understand.
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| From | James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 14:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrfb97$al9$3@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #516446 |
*/James Birdy/* wrote: > */Sylvia Else/* wrote: > >> On 23/08/2015 6:28 AM, James Birdy wrote: >>> Are there electrons that are different? I hear stories that walking >>> barefoot has surprisingly health benefits. As I understood, >>> electrically, the insulator of the shoes taken away, the electrons >>> from Earth are getting up into your system. Performing whatever >>> beneficial as they did in old ages (millions of years). I mean, only >>> humans are using shoes, which might be seen as a barrier for the free >>> natural electrons (charge carriers) >>> >>> >> Even had it been the case that electrons got taken up by bare feet (a >> highly improbable scenario), they would have migrated to the surface of >> the skin [*], which consists of dead tissue. Apart from repelling the >> odd blood-sucking insect that had happened to have acquired a negative >> charge, it's hard to see what benefit could have accrued. >> >> Sylvia. > > Dear Sylvia. You are severely uneducated. What you just said is just so > wrong. Human body has a Resistance, which accordingly its adherent > Resistivity decrease with the contact surface/area, say for now, in the > region of 500kOhm. (the palm of two feet is a quite large contact area). > > More over the Static positive Potential of the body may rise up to MANY > kilovolts! (due to the electric insulation imposed by the wearing plastic shoes) > >> [*] The net charge of any electrically conductive object is expressed >> on its surface because of electric repulsion. > > Not sure. Or I can't understand.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 19:27 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <4635806.cI62ysWNPr@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #516446 |
The ’nym-shifting troll calling themselves "James Birdy" amok-crossposted:
> */Sylvia Else/* wrote:
>> [*] The net charge of any electrically conductive object is expressed on
>> its surface because of electric repulsion.
>
> Not sure. Or I can't understand.
Given your evidentially low understanding of English and physics, which one
do you think is more likely? And if you were a logical being, should that
determination not cause a considerable degree of humility in yourself,
preventing you from issuing further statements such as “you are severely
uneducated” and from further haunting these newsgroups with your obnoxious-
nonsensical behavior?
PointedEars
--
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
testing your knowledge means everything.”
—Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)
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| From | James Birdy <jamesb@barefootwalking.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 18:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrfoll$f63$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #516532 |
*/Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn/* wrote: > The ’nym-shifting troll calling themselves "James Birdy" > amok-crossposted: > >> */Sylvia Else/* wrote: >>> [*] The net charge of any electrically conductive object is expressed >>> on its surface because of electric repulsion. >> >> Not sure. Or I can't understand. > > Given your evidentially low understanding of English and physics, which > one do you think is more likely? I do Models in Physics since you wore diaper. Can you code a model using what he said? I guess not, then stop trolling this group and shut the bleep up.
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