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| Started by | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-06-12 18:54 -0500 |
| Last post | 2016-06-16 16:06 -0400 |
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Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 18:54 -0500
Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 16:59 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-12 20:37 -0500
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-12 20:36 -0500
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D emptypost@hotmail.com - 2016-06-12 20:53 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-13 14:16 +0200
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 09:07 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 10:15 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-13 12:50 -0500
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 11:13 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-13 21:47 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-06-13 12:20 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 21:45 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-15 07:05 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 14:13 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-13 20:44 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 17:59 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-13 21:31 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 18:45 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 13:29 +0200
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 05:07 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-14 09:37 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 15:43 +0200
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 07:14 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 16:31 +0200
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 08:23 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 17:31 +0200
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 08:39 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 18:44 +0200
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 10:41 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 11:19 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 21:59 +0200
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 07:16 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 07:20 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 13:05 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 13:22 +0200
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-14 18:58 -0500
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-14 08:06 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-14 08:56 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 16:07 +0200
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-14 14:58 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-14 21:49 +0200
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-15 07:42 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-15 15:06 +0200
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-15 09:38 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 06:43 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-15 17:20 +0200
dimensional glasses (polarized e.g noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 16:11 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-15 23:00 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 12:08 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-14 14:43 -0400
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 12:51 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 12:52 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D xxein1@att.net - 2016-06-14 16:54 -0700
Re: Why We're All Trapped In 3-D Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-06-16 16:06 -0400
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 05:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <29f5332f-a3f3-45f9-aa43-49f73201e39d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584844 |
Lahn said: "The proper spelling is _insightful_, … " Show us how to do it, Lahn, don't tell us. Post your OWN stuff and do it BETTER. You can't
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 09:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <o320mbdljphcuoaspfhd5ofgdlv33in69o@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #584847 |
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 05:07:15 -0700 (PDT), john wrote: >Lahn said: >"The proper spelling is _insightful_, … " > >Show us how to do it, Lahn, >don't tell us. >Post your OWN stuff and do it BETTER. >You can't What do you mean by "It"? Spoon-feeding you because you don't want to look elsewhere for information?
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 15:43 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <4221796.JicrUYoLJI@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #584847 |
john wrote: > Lahn said: > "The proper spelling is _insightful_, … " > > Show us how to do it, Lahn, > don't tell us. > Post your OWN stuff and do it BETTER. > You can't Which part of “BTDT” did you not understand? -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 07:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ec35b226-c587-4072-b43e-6f37aa1d3635@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584858 |
Lahn >Which part of “BTDT” did you not understand? I did not understand ALL of it. What does it mean? Is it constructive or is it a supercilious nitpicker? Post some ideas
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 16:31 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <13097921.YkBLY7kAs3@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #584866 |
john wrote: > Lahn That is _not_ a proper attribution line. Learn to quote. >> Which part of “BTDT” did you not understand? > > I did not understand ALL of it. A pity, because Google is your friend there, “john”. [I will forever be amazed that people like you can post using Google Groups, and at the same time not get the idea of using the other Google services before asking about things that they do not understand. You do not even have to type the question into the Web Search input field anymore; just say “OK Google, what does BTDT mean?” to get the answer *read aloud* to you. (BTDT.)] > What does it mean? “Been There, Done That.” It means that what you said that I should do, I have already done. (You just did not realize it yet.) It is a common acronym, one of many. You would be well-advised to learn the most used ones (or simply research them when when necessary) before posting to Usenet again. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 08:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ef98aca7-efdc-4c5a-a0ab-1bb5387aafa5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584869 |
What, Lahn, you didn't read the post 2 above? If you are finished thinking, wondering, and communicating and only want to nitpick, BTDT is right. But I don't yet think that EVERYTHING is nailed down, so I am still here doing that. Please read for content, not style, okay? Attribution? You can't understand context?
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 17:31 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <2420455.CsxT8CgM2f@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #584872 |
john wrote: > What, Lahn, > you didn't read the post 2 above? > […] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 08:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <625f482e-4aa6-420b-a002-b00fb8fd413c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584873 |
Lahn Okay, gotcha- you're keeping quiet lest we find out that you're foolish. Don't worry- Mahipal said it- we all make mistakes. I would LOVE to hear your ideas. Please don't be shy.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 18:44 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <7724784.rlVpVJgb2T@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #584874 |
john wrote: > I would LOVE to hear your ideas. Only to deride them, or to ignore them and posting nonsense of the “not even wrong” kind instead. The record shows: <news:26d79a37-a031-41de-8953-732f49b9846b@googlegroups.com> <news:b957b49b-0e2e-46f6-94cf-50e5e843d04f@googlegroups.com> <news:dc639a1d-11e2-4aad-9181-7b6f888422ba@googlegroups.com> <news:b8c30164-bb22-4a0f-85f5-c9aeeba41b22@googlegroups.com> <news:181eeb2a-0dbd-4ad4-85c0-f439ada3d732@googlegroups.com> > Please don't be shy. The issue here is instead that all indications are that you are a science crank, “john”. Therefore, presenting my ideas to you would be a waste of my precious time. Give me reason to think otherwise by your not posting like a complete idiot anymore, and I might reconsider. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 10:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a3211b2d-2a42-422d-a5db-23b52f1fbfc0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584880 |
Thomas You got nothing Just be quiet, now
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 11:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <600ed654-0a44-4675-a233-98d10fd1b785@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584886 |
Or better still, just plonk me. Then I don't have to hear you whining
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 21:59 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <5064352.uQUzsfiard@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #584886 |
john wrote: > Thomas > You got nothing > Just be quiet, now *PLONK*
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 07:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8bbaa3ef-42d3-4aec-8c36-cfc6c9a284f0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584858 |
On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 9:43:26 AM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > john wrote: > > > Lahn said: > > "The proper spelling is _insightful_, … " Real humans make realtime spelling errors all the time. It's just fine. > > Show us how to do it, Lahn, > > don't tell us. > > Post your OWN stuff and do it BETTER. > > You can't > > Which part of “BTDT” did you not understand? Stop being rude and hell bent on following Usenet Protocols, PointedEars. What my pal Sir JohnJi means is... if I may paraphrase him... Friend PointedEars, please do continue to do so. Be insightful. No BTDT. > -- > PointedEars > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. -- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 07:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <529b3258-5722-4a3c-a4ec-b6ec00ac796c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584867 |
Kahn Okay, looked up been there done that. So- you're finished thinking and wondering and there's nothing new under the sun
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 13:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0a2a251e-4299-4375-b107-39dd322d4d1c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #584844 |
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn Wally W. wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:59:44 -0700 (PDT), john wrote: >> Wally, why don't you and Lahn post BETTER, more INTERESTING >> stuff, AND make inciteful comments for all of us? BTDT (and how well you know). > Sam copies and pastes. > > Where are his inciteful comments? The proper spelling is _insightful_, … ------------ I'm sure Wally spelled it exactly as he wished to
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 13:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1935690.jXZOemXBCa@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #584788 |
Wally W. wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:16:54 +0200, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> Further, it is then being considered to report you for spamming with your >> service provider(s), which may result in the suspension or cancellation >> of your account(s) there due to violation of the providers Acceptable >> Use Policies. > > Here's how: > https://support.google.com/mail/contact/gtag_headers?group=hijack_spam No. That is the _GMail_ support form. Google _Groups_ has its own spam reporting (dys)functionality, but Sam is not posting to Usenet via either GMail or Google Groups, but GigaNews. The terms of service can be found at <http://www.giganews.com/legal/tos_personal.html> I still hope that Sam takes the warning shot for what it is, reconsiders, and that my submitting a formal complaint will not be necessary. To be clear about this, I do not object to science news as a whole; I object to *pure*, *mindless* *mass* *copypasting* of science news where you can no longer see the real discussions for the "news", and I object to posting off-topic and pseudo news (such as the one about geothermal energy – the relevance of that to *physics* is *zero*). -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 18:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <njq5n2$ou1$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #584843 |
On 6/14/2016 6:22 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Wally W. wrote: > > I still hope that Sam takes the warning shot for what it is, reconsiders, > and that my submitting a formal complaint will not be necessary. To be > clear about this, I do not object to science news as a whole; I object to > *pure*, *mindless* *mass* *copypasting* of science news where you can no > longer see the real discussions for the "news", and I object to posting > off-topic and pseudo news (such as the one about geothermal energy – the > relevance of that to *physics* is *zero*). besides compaining, do you have anything of positive value for this newsgroup ?
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| From | Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 08:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <m-ydnb1WZp_NbsLKnZ2dnUU7-fvNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #584696 |
On 13/06/2016 8:16 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > You have been warned. Hey idiot, STFU. Sam only spams this newsgroup with his global warming crap, but this stuff is actually physics related. Nobody appointed you moderator, so go moderate yourself and disappear! Yousuf Khan
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 08:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <39vvlbt28dkt1e5k6crulnq444usauqfog@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #584846 |
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:06:41 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote: >On 13/06/2016 8:16 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> You have been warned. > >Hey idiot, STFU. Sam only spams this newsgroup with his global warming >crap, but this stuff is actually physics related. Nobody appointed you >moderator, so go moderate yourself and disappear! > > Yousuf Khan Where was Sam's "discussion" in his post? Why did *this* shiny thing catch his attention today? What did he say about why he thought anyone else should be interested? Where did he explains "Why We're All Trapped In 3-D"? Do we not experience the 4th dimension neglected because it is only one way? Sam trolls with crap like this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll Two studies published in 2013 and 2014 have found that people who are identified as trolls tend to have dark personality traits and show signs of sadism, antisocial behavior, psychopathy, and machiavellianism. Can you say, "Stockholm Syndrome?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon described in 1973 in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 16:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <2017504.JxX5tyIESa@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #584852 |
Wally W. wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:06:41 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote: >> […] Sam only spams this newsgroup with his global warming Obviously incorrect. >> […], but this stuff is actually physics related. If you cared to notice, my objection was not to the OP in particular. >> Nobody appointed you moderator, so go moderate yourself and disappear! First of all, obviously you have no idea how moderation works on Usenet. A newsgroup moderator *never* posts their comments to the newsgroup; they do not approve and do not forward e-mails they get to the newsgroup instead. Second, if I find a newsgroup unusable because one individual floods it with irrelevant postings, it is my right to point out that this behavior is very likely of disadvantage to all other users, and to warn that if this continues, those postings will be filtered out by default with the devices *I* use to access the newsgroup. It is also my right to send complaints to providers for network abuse by others, and to warn them about that. (Whether those take effect depends on the provider.) > […] > Where was Sam's "discussion" in his post? Missing. > Why did *this* shiny thing catch his attention today? Possibility: It was published shortly ago, on 2016-06-07. > What did he say about why he thought anyone else should be interested? He did not, but it is physics-related indeed. > Where did he explains "Why We're All Trapped In 3-D"? He did not; the quoted text does. Does that justify posting it? I am not sure, but probably not; it is not even news. What it certainly does not justify is being part of a flood of "news" postings, all originating from Sam. > Do we not experience the 4th dimension neglected because it is only > one way? If you mean “Do we not experience the 4th dimension because …?”, then the answer is “Mu”. And if you mean time by “the 4th dimension”, then we do experience “the 4th dimension”. But that is not what the article is about. > Can you say, "Stockholm Syndrome?" Unrelated, unless one suffers from an obsessive-compulsive behavior to use this newsgroup, thereby considering themselves a hostage. Judging from other postings, though, there are examples of people here for whom this may not be far from the truth. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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