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In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone

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First post2015-11-17 19:32 -0600
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  In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:32 -0600
    Re: In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-18 02:12 +0000
      Re: In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-18 09:45 -0600
        Re: In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-18 11:00 -0600
          Re: In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 13:48 -0800
    Re: In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 16:39 -0800

#533886 — In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-17 19:32 -0600
SubjectIn Greenland, another major glacier comes undone
Message-ID<VLWdnd6NmqiESNbLnZ2dnUU7-IudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone
> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-greenland-major-glacier-undone.html


> It's big. It's cold. And it's melting into the world's oceans.
>
> It's Zachariae Isstrom, the latest in a string of Greenland glaciers
> to undergo rapid change in our warming world. A new NASA-funded study
> published today in the journal Science finds that Zachariae Isstrom
> broke loose from a glaciologically stable position in 2012 and
> entered a phase of accelerated retreat. The consequences will be felt
> for decades to come.
>
> The reason? Zachariae Isstrom is big. It drains ice from an area of
> 35,440 square miles (91,780 square kilometers). That's about 5
> percent of the Greenland Ice Sheet. All by itself, it holds enough
> water to raise global sea level by more than 18 inches (46
> centimeters) if it were to melt completely. And now it's on a crash
> diet, losing 5 billion tons of mass every year. All that ice is
> crumbling into the North Atlantic Ocean.
>
> "North Greenland glaciers are changing rapidly," said lead author
> Jeremie Mouginot, an assistant researcher in the Department of Earth
> System Science at the University of California, Irvine. "The shape
> and dynamics of Zachariae Isstrom have changed dramatically over the
> last few years. The glacier is now breaking up and calving high
> volumes of icebergs into the ocean, which will result in rising sea
> levels for decades to come."


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#533891

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-11-18 02:12 +0000
Message-ID<1d3thc-434.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#533886
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-greenland-major-glacier-undone.html
> 
> 
>> It's big. It's cold. And it's melting into the world's oceans.
>>
>> It's Zachariae Isstrom, the latest in a string of Greenland glaciers
>> to undergo rapid change in our warming world. A new NASA-funded study
>> published today in the journal Science finds that Zachariae Isstrom
>> broke loose from a glaciologically stable position in 2012 and
>> entered a phase of accelerated retreat. The consequences will be felt
>> for decades to come.
>>
>> The reason? Zachariae Isstrom is big. It drains ice from an area of
>> 35,440 square miles (91,780 square kilometers). That's about 5
>> percent of the Greenland Ice Sheet. All by itself, it holds enough
>> water to raise global sea level by more than 18 inches (46
>> centimeters) if it were to melt completely. And now it's on a crash
>> diet, losing 5 billion tons of mass every year. All that ice is
>> crumbling into the North Atlantic Ocean.
>>
>> "North Greenland glaciers are changing rapidly," said lead author
>> Jeremie Mouginot, an assistant researcher in the Department of Earth
>> System Science at the University of California, Irvine. "The shape
>> and dynamics of Zachariae Isstrom have changed dramatically over the
>> last few years. The glacier is now breaking up and calving high
>> volumes of icebergs into the ocean, which will result in rising sea
>> levels for decades to come."
 
Yawn.
 

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Jim Pennino

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#533945

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-11-18 09:45 -0600
Message-ID<n2i6ft$it7$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#533891
On 11/17/2015 8:12 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone
>>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-greenland-major-glacier-undone.html
>>
>>
>>> It's big. It's cold. And it's melting into the world's oceans.
>>>
>>> It's Zachariae Isstrom, the latest in a string of Greenland glaciers
>>> to undergo rapid change in our warming world. A new NASA-funded study
>>> published today in the journal Science finds that Zachariae Isstrom
>>> broke loose from a glaciologically stable position in 2012 and
>>> entered a phase of accelerated retreat. The consequences will be felt
>>> for decades to come.

>>> The reason? Zachariae Isstrom is big. It drains ice from an area of
>>> 35,440 square miles (91,780 square kilometers). That's about 5
>>> percent of the Greenland Ice Sheet. All by itself, it holds enough
>>> water to raise global sea level by more than 18 inches (46
>>> centimeters) if it were to melt completely. And now it's on a crash
>>> diet, losing 5 billion tons of mass every year. All that ice is
>>> crumbling into the North Atlantic Ocean.
>>>
>>> "North Greenland glaciers are changing rapidly," said lead author
>>> Jeremie Mouginot, an assistant researcher in the Department of Earth
>>> System Science at the University of California, Irvine. "The shape
>>> and dynamics of Zachariae Isstrom have changed dramatically over the
>>> last few years. The glacier is now breaking up and calving high
>>> volumes of icebergs into the ocean, which will result in rising sea
>>> levels for decades to come."
>
> Yawn.
>
>

to fix it, millions of pieces of Styrofoam are being attached to the 
glacier surface, to keep in the cold, and reflect the heat of the 
burning sun.  It is estimated this effort will take Bob and Jon about 95 
years if someone delivers the styrofoam, and nails to them.

In other parts of the world, giant government funded Ice machines are 
making ice cubes using sea water and storing them in huge vaults 
underground, refrigerated of course.

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#533954

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-11-18 11:00 -0600
Message-ID<n2iar0$t5d$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#533945
On 11/18/2015 9:45 AM, gilber34 wrote:
> On 11/17/2015 8:12 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone
>>>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-greenland-major-glacier-undone.html
>

>>>> . The glacier is now breaking up and calving high
>>>> volumes of icebergs into the ocean, which will result in rising sea
>>>> levels for decades to come."
>>
>> Yawn.
>>
>>
>
> to fix it, millions of pieces of Styrofoam are being attached to the
> glacier surface, to keep in the cold, and reflect the heat of the
> burning sun.  It is estimated this effort will take Bob and Jon about 95
> years if someone delivers the styrofoam, and nails to them.

better just to put the styrofoam beads onto the sea, where they will 
reflect a lot more sunlight, as it is a thin layer, and keep the water 
cooler.  No nails needed.


>
> In other parts of the world, giant government funded Ice machines are
> making ice cubes using sea water and storing them in huge vaults
> underground, refrigerated of course.

refrigerators generate heat, so that process of making ice cubes adds 
heat to the earths surface.

Better to make millions of aluminized balloons filled with hydrogen 
(more available) and have them float up into the air for about 15 years, 
to reflect the Sun's burning heat rays.  Bet the energy released as heat 
making one of these balloons is less than total energy is reflected by 
the balloon.


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#534095

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-19 13:48 -0800
Message-ID<24cb22c6-cfc1-4bf4-8295-23d973ac22a0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#533954
these "albedoistes have no notion of a)
spherical geometry at b)
teh equinox at c)
noon, on aparticular longitude

> > burning sun.  It is estimated this effort will take Bob and Jon about 95
> > years if someone delivers the styrofoam, and nails to them.
> 
> better just to put the styrofoam beads onto the sea, where they will 
> reflect a lot more sunlight, as it is a thin layer, and keep the water 
> cooler.  No nails needed.
> 
> 
> >
> > In other parts of the world, giant government funded Ice machines are
> > making ice cubes using sea water and storing them in huge vaults
> > underground, refrigerated of course.
> 
> refrigerators generate heat, so that process of making ice cubes adds 
> heat to the earths surface.
> 
> Better to make millions of aluminized balloons filled with hydrogen 
> (more available) and have them float up into the air for about 15 years, 
> to reflect the Sun's burning heat rays.  Bet the energy released as heat 
> making one of these balloons is less than total energy is reflected by 
> the balloon.

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#534007

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-18 16:39 -0800
Message-ID<3cf8fba5-c1a6-4a77-a6b9-d499fe252b84@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#533886
On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 5:32:12 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> In Greenland, another major glacier comes undone
> > http://phys.org/news/2015-11-greenland-major-glacier-undone.html
> 
> 
> > It's big. It's cold. And it's melting into the world's oceans.
> >
> > It's Zachariae Isstrom, the latest in a string of Greenland glaciers
> > to undergo rapid change in our warming world. A new NASA-funded study
> > published today in the journal Science finds that Zachariae Isstrom
> > broke loose from a glaciologically stable position in 2012 and
> > entered a phase of accelerated retreat. The consequences will be felt
> > for decades to come.
> >
> > The reason? Zachariae Isstrom is big. It drains ice from an area of
> > 35,440 square miles (91,780 square kilometers). That's about 5
> > percent of the Greenland Ice Sheet. All by itself, it holds enough
> > water to raise global sea level by more than 18 inches (46
> > centimeters) if it were to melt completely. And now it's on a crash
> > diet, losing 5 billion tons of mass every year. All that ice is
> > crumbling into the North Atlantic Ocean.
> >
> > "North Greenland glaciers are changing rapidly," said lead author
> > Jeremie Mouginot, an assistant researcher in the Department of Earth
> > System Science at the University of California, Irvine. "The shape
> > and dynamics of Zachariae Isstrom have changed dramatically over the
> > last few years. The glacier is now breaking up and calving high
> > volumes of icebergs into the ocean, which will result in rising sea
> > levels for decades to come."
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

All that fresh water going to waste.Shame on us.Glazier glacier parked in LA harbor solves it all.Plus it keeps beer cold. TreBert

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