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  The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-19 10:55 -0700
    Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-19 20:23 +0200
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-19 11:50 -0700
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-20 13:16 +0200
          Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-23 09:08 -0700
            Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-26 09:45 +0200
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-19 22:09 -0500
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-20 12:00 +0200
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-21 11:32 -0700
          Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-22 00:17 -0700
            Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-22 20:33 -0700
              Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-23 09:21 -0700
                Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 09:15 -0700
                  Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-24 17:12 +0000
    Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2017-08-20 09:20 -0400
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 07:03 -0700
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 07:19 -0700
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-21 11:34 -0700
        Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-22 19:40 +0200
    Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-24 16:16 -0700
    Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 16:43 -0700
      Re: The Other Side of a Black Hole "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-27 19:08 -0700

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#646537 — The Other Side of a Black Hole

The Other Side of a Black Hole


it appears that yous people
have no idea what lies, or
what it looks like at
The Other Side of a Black Hole.


Maybe yous are not allowed to think that far yet...

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#646541

Am 19.08.2017 um 19:55 schrieb The Starmaker:
> The Other Side of a Black Hole
>
>
> it appears that yous people
> have no idea what lies, or
> what it looks like at
> The Other Side of a Black Hole.
>
>
> Maybe yous are not allowed to think that far yet...
>

The 'other side of a black hole' is  -of course- a 'big bang'.


That is obvious, if you extend the axis of time through the black hole.

Then (on the other side) what vanishes into nowhere pops out of nowhere. 
That is a black hole time reverted.


TH

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#646542

Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 19.08.2017 um 19:55 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > The Other Side of a Black Hole
> >
> >
> > it appears that yous people
> > have no idea what lies, or
> > what it looks like at
> > The Other Side of a Black Hole.
> >
> >
> > Maybe yous are not allowed to think that far yet...
> >
> 
> The 'other side of a black hole' is  -of course- a 'big bang'.
> 
> That is obvious, if you extend the axis of time through the black hole.
> 
> Then (on the other side) what vanishes into nowhere pops out of nowhere.
> That is a black hole time reverted.
> 
> TH



How did you manage to get that right so quickly right off the bat?

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#646605

Am 19.08.2017 um 20:50 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> Am 19.08.2017 um 19:55 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> The Other Side of a Black Hole
>>>
>>>
>>> it appears that yous people
>>> have no idea what lies, or
>>> what it looks like at
>>> The Other Side of a Black Hole.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe yous are not allowed to think that far yet...
>>>
>>
>> The 'other side of a black hole' is  -of course- a 'big bang'.
>>
>> That is obvious, if you extend the axis of time through the black hole.
>>
>> Then (on the other side) what vanishes into nowhere pops out of nowhere.
>> That is a black hole time reverted.
>>
>> TH
>
>
>
> How did you manage to get that right so quickly right off the bat?
>

??

Actually I have written kind of 'book' about it:

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6


(It is actually a google.doc presentation, not a book, but one day I 
write a new version).

The question I try to solve is how to connect relativity and Quantum 
mechanics.

The concept I call 'structured spacetime'. This includes a mechanism to 
shift the axis of time into a spatial direction and what then happens to 
matter.

So a black hole is accompanied with a white hole 'on the other side'.


TH

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#646929

Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 19.08.2017 um 20:50 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 19.08.2017 um 19:55 schrieb The Starmaker:
> >>> The Other Side of a Black Hole
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> it appears that yous people
> >>> have no idea what lies, or
> >>> what it looks like at
> >>> The Other Side of a Black Hole.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Maybe yous are not allowed to think that far yet...
> >>>
> >>
> >> The 'other side of a black hole' is  -of course- a 'big bang'.
> >>
> >> That is obvious, if you extend the axis of time through the black hole.
> >>
> >> Then (on the other side) what vanishes into nowhere pops out of nowhere.
> >> That is a black hole time reverted.
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> >
> >
> > How did you manage to get that right so quickly right off the bat?
> >
> 
> ??
> 
> Actually I have written kind of 'book' about it:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6
> 
> (It is actually a google.doc presentation, not a book, but one day I
> write a new version).
> 
> The question I try to solve is how to connect relativity and Quantum
> mechanics.
> 
> The concept I call 'structured spacetime'. This includes a mechanism to
> shift the axis of time into a spatial direction and what then happens to
> matter.
> 
> So a black hole is accompanied with a white hole 'on the other side'.
> 
> TH


A black hole is like night and day...

nothing disapears
when it enters a
black hole..
it just turns on the lights
when it reaches the other side.

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#647291

Am 23.08.2017 um 18:08 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> Am 19.08.2017 um 20:50 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 19.08.2017 um 19:55 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>>>> The Other Side of a Black Hole
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it appears that yous people
>>>>> have no idea what lies, or
>>>>> what it looks like at
>>>>> The Other Side of a Black Hole.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe yous are not allowed to think that far yet...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 'other side of a black hole' is  -of course- a 'big bang'.
>>>>
>>>> That is obvious, if you extend the axis of time through the black hole.
>>>>
>>>> Then (on the other side) what vanishes into nowhere pops out of nowhere.
>>>> That is a black hole time reverted.
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How did you manage to get that right so quickly right off the bat?
>>>
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Actually I have written kind of 'book' about it:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6
>>
>> (It is actually a google.doc presentation, not a book, but one day I
>> write a new version).
>>
>> The question I try to solve is how to connect relativity and Quantum
>> mechanics.
>>
>> The concept I call 'structured spacetime'. This includes a mechanism to
>> shift the axis of time into a spatial direction and what then happens to
>> matter.
>>
>> So a black hole is accompanied with a white hole 'on the other side'.
>>
>> TH
>
>
> A black hole is like night and day...
>
> nothing disapears
> when it enters a
> black hole..
> it just turns on the lights
> when it reaches the other side.
>


The 'big bang' is the spot in space and time, from where our universe 
came from.

It is somehow plausible, that spot had and opposite to big bang. That 
would be 'big crunch' and that's what black hole do.

Now draw the axis of time through this black hole and you end up on the 
other side with a big bang.

Best way to visualize this is actually a Minkowski diagram in 2+1 
dimensions, called 'light-cone'.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/World_line.svg/300px-World_line.svg.png

The tip of the past light cone points towards a spot on the hyperplane 
of the present and beyond this the cone expands again.

Now 2+1 is less then 3+1, what is actually needed. But we can turn 2+1 
into 3+1 by a certain operation: multiply the picture by three.

Now this would turn circles into spheres. The past light cone is 
actually a set of nested sphere, where further away is also further away 
in time.

Now this is the same thing, that Ptolomei called '(nested) crystal spheres'.

IOW: what we call 'universe' is in fact our own past light cone.

This originated from a spot somewhere remote, we call 'big bang'.

But this (our) 'universe' is not real and not universal. In fact it is 
OUR universe, that originated from OUR big bang.

Therefore that big bang must also be 'relative' - to us Earthlings - 
hence would match the description of what we call 'observer' or 'zero 
point', moving along the axis of time on the hyperplane of the present.

Now this big bang is accompanied with a past 'universe' that vanished 
into the supposed 'big crunch'.

But since this is all 'relative', there is no real effect visible, if 
you would go to such a location, and the same phenomenon would be seen, 
where you had been before.


TH

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#646583

On 8/19/17 8/19/17   1:23 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> The 'other side of a black hole' is  -of course- a 'big bang'.

No. Not even close. The FLRW manifolds define what "big bang" means, and they 
are not at all like any black hole manifold.

But some types of black holes have "another side", and some do not.

The black hole formed by a collapsing star has no "other side".

The Schwarzschild manifold does have "another side", but it is not possible for 
a timelike or null object to cross from one to the other.

The Kerr manifold has an infinite number of "other sides", and with care a 
timelike or null object can transition in one direction from one to the other. 
But there is no going back.

There are other types of black hole, but this should give the idea....

Tom Roberts

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#646600

Tom Roberts amok-crossposted across 4 newsgroups without F’up2:

> […] some types of black holes have "another side", and some do not.

See also <http://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/> p.
 
> The black hole formed by a collapsing star has no "other side".
> 
> The Schwarzschild manifold does have "another side", but it is not
> possible for a timelike or null object to cross from one to the other.

If that is so, why do you think that a black hole (BH) formed by a 
collapsing star cannot possibly be described by the Schwarzschild metric 
(non-rotating, uncharged BH)?
 
> The Kerr manifold has an infinite number of "other sides", and with care a
> timelike or null object can transition in one direction from one to the
> other. But there is no going back.

If that is so, why do you think that a BH formed by a collapsing star cannot 
possibly be described by the Kerr (rotating, uncharged BH) or Kerr–Newman 
metric (rotating, charged BH)?

F’up2 <news:sci.physics.relativity>

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#646746

Tom Roberts wrote:
> 
> On 8/19/17 8/19/17   1:23 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > The 'other side of a black hole' is  -of course- a 'big bang'.
> 
> No. Not even close. The FLRW manifolds define what "big bang" means, and they
> are not at all like any black hole manifold.
> 
> But some types of black holes have "another side", and some do not.
> 
> The black hole formed by a collapsing star has no "other side".
> 
> The Schwarzschild manifold does have "another side", but it is not possible for
> a timelike or null object to cross from one to the other.
> 
> The Kerr manifold has an infinite number of "other sides", and with care a
> timelike or null object can transition in one direction from one to the other.
> But there is no going back.
> 
> There are other types of black hole, but this should give the idea....
> 
> Tom Roberts



"another side"??? Is that different from...."other side"????



Or, do you mean "other side", or "no other side"


i'm a little confused about...what side you're on.



But when I say "The Other Side of a Black Hole", it is based on my ...observations, not ...specualtions.


Here is a transparent picture of what it looks like on  The Other Side of a Black Hole..

It is a transparent picture of the big bang before and after the big bang. A window of and into the big bang if you will..



http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


In the center is The Other Side of a Black Hole.
You will notice that red stars are shooting from the center outwards towards the new universe in the making..The After.
You can also see green stars which lie Before the big bang waiting to be sent to The Other Side of a Black Hole.
I can go on and on, but a picture paints a thousands words, so I'll leave it as that.

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg

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#646824

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Tom Roberts wrote:
> >
> > On 8/19/17 8/19/17   1:23 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > The 'other side of a black hole' is  -of course- a 'big bang'.
> >
> > No. Not even close. The FLRW manifolds define what "big bang" means, and they
> > are not at all like any black hole manifold.
> >
> > But some types of black holes have "another side", and some do not.
> >
> > The black hole formed by a collapsing star has no "other side".
> >
> > The Schwarzschild manifold does have "another side", but it is not possible for
> > a timelike or null object to cross from one to the other.
> >
> > The Kerr manifold has an infinite number of "other sides", and with care a
> > timelike or null object can transition in one direction from one to the other.
> > But there is no going back.
> >
> > There are other types of black hole, but this should give the idea....
> >
> > Tom Roberts
> 
> "another side"??? Is that different from...."other side"????
> 
> Or, do you mean "other side", or "no other side"
> 
> i'm a little confused about...what side you're on.
> 
> But when I say "The Other Side of a Black Hole", it is based on my ...observations, not ...speculations.
> 
> Here is a transparent picture of what it looks like on  The Other Side of a Black Hole..
> 
> It is a transparent picture of the big bang before and after the big bang. A window of and into the big bang if you will..
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> In the center is The Other Side of a Black Hole.
> You will notice that red stars are shooting from the center outwards towards the new universe in the making..The After.
> You can also see green stars which lie Before the big bang waiting to be sent to The Other Side of a Black Hole.
> I can go on and on, but a picture paints a thousands words, so I'll leave it as that.
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


The Green stars are the stable stars...they look stable.


Now, the Red stars are shooting outwards from the other side of the Black Hole, ...forming a new universe. They are Red because they were
formed from inside the black hole beyond the horizon. 

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


I could go on and on, but what for...you're already here.


Now, you see Red, Green....but where is the Blue? I'm still working at the Blue part, ...


The Blue is a Zone that I'm still working on, I believe it is the foundation of the Green, but I don't know it's function yet.


http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


You can call it The Starmaker Manifold.

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#646908

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Tom Roberts wrote:
> > >
> > > On 8/19/17 8/19/17   1:23 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > The 'other side of a black hole' is  -of course- a 'big bang'.
> > >
> > > No. Not even close. The FLRW manifolds define what "big bang" means, and they
> > > are not at all like any black hole manifold.
> > >
> > > But some types of black holes have "another side", and some do not.
> > >
> > > The black hole formed by a collapsing star has no "other side".
> > >
> > > The Schwarzschild manifold does have "another side", but it is not possible for
> > > a timelike or null object to cross from one to the other.
> > >
> > > The Kerr manifold has an infinite number of "other sides", and with care a
> > > timelike or null object can transition in one direction from one to the other.
> > > But there is no going back.
> > >
> > > There are other types of black hole, but this should give the idea....
> > >
> > > Tom Roberts
> >
> > "another side"??? Is that different from...."other side"????
> >
> > Or, do you mean "other side", or "no other side"
> >
> > i'm a little confused about...what side you're on.
> >
> > But when I say "The Other Side of a Black Hole", it is based on my ...observations, not ...speculations.
> >
> > Here is a transparent picture of what it looks like on  The Other Side of a Black Hole..
> >
> > It is a transparent picture of the big bang before and after the big bang. A window of and into the big bang if you will..
> >
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >
> > In the center is The Other Side of a Black Hole.
> > You will notice that red stars are shooting from the center outwards towards the new universe in the making..The After.
> > You can also see green stars which lie Before the big bang waiting to be sent to The Other Side of a Black Hole.
> > I can go on and on, but a picture paints a thousands words, so I'll leave it as that.
> >
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> The Green stars are the stable stars...they look stable.
> 
> Now, the Red stars are shooting outwards from the other side of the Black Hole, ...forming a new universe. They are Red because they were
> formed from inside the black hole beyond the horizon.
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> I could go on and on, but what for...you're already here.
> 
> Now, you see Red, Green....but where is the Blue? I'm still working at the Blue part, ...
> 
> The Blue is a Zone that I'm still working on, I believe it is the foundation of the Green, but I don't know it's function yet.
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> 
> You can call it The Starmaker Manifold.



I bet the greatest scientific minds in the world are looking and disecting this picture and saying "WHAT THE FUCK IT THAT????"


http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg

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#646930

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom Roberts wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 8/19/17 8/19/17   1:23 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > The 'other side of a black hole' is  -of course- a 'big bang'.
> > > >
> > > > No. Not even close. The FLRW manifolds define what "big bang" means, and they
> > > > are not at all like any black hole manifold.
> > > >
> > > > But some types of black holes have "another side", and some do not.
> > > >
> > > > The black hole formed by a collapsing star has no "other side".
> > > >
> > > > The Schwarzschild manifold does have "another side", but it is not possible for
> > > > a timelike or null object to cross from one to the other.
> > > >
> > > > The Kerr manifold has an infinite number of "other sides", and with care a
> > > > timelike or null object can transition in one direction from one to the other.
> > > > But there is no going back.
> > > >
> > > > There are other types of black hole, but this should give the idea....
> > > >
> > > > Tom Roberts
> > >
> > > "another side"??? Is that different from...."other side"????
> > >
> > > Or, do you mean "other side", or "no other side"
> > >
> > > i'm a little confused about...what side you're on.
> > >
> > > But when I say "The Other Side of a Black Hole", it is based on my ...observations, not ...speculations.
> > >
> > > Here is a transparent picture of what it looks like on  The Other Side of a Black Hole..
> > >
> > > It is a transparent picture of the big bang before and after the big bang. A window of and into the big bang if you will..
> > >
> > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> > >
> > > In the center is The Other Side of a Black Hole.
> > > You will notice that red stars are shooting from the center outwards towards the new universe in the making..The After.
> > > You can also see green stars which lie Before the big bang waiting to be sent to The Other Side of a Black Hole.
> > > I can go on and on, but a picture paints a thousands words, so I'll leave it as that.
> > >
> > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >
> > The Green stars are the stable stars...they look stable.
> >
> > Now, the Red stars are shooting outwards from the other side of the Black Hole, ...forming a new universe. They are Red because they were
> > formed from inside the black hole beyond the horizon.
> >
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >
> > I could go on and on, but what for...you're already here.
> >
> > Now, you see Red, Green....but where is the Blue? I'm still working at the Blue part, ...
> >
> > The Blue is a Zone that I'm still working on, I believe it is the foundation of the Green, but I don't know it's function yet.
> >
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg
> >
> > You can call it The Starmaker Manifold.
> 
> I bet the greatest scientific minds in the world are looking and disecting this picture and saying "WHAT THE FUCK IT THAT????"
> 
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg


It's a photo. 

It's a natural photo as Nature intended it to be.

I'm a starmaker. I see stars. Looks to me like the big bang, before and after with the black hole in the middle.

I see Green stars, they must be stable stars...they look stable...

I see Red stars moving/shifting stars shooting outwards into a new space, they look like they just come from a big bang...

and in the middle...it's where the Hole is the center of it all.

It appears to me to be simply a transparent picture of The Big Bang before and after while it happen.

And Nature took a picture of it and send it to...


The Starmaker



What else could it possibly be????

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#647066

Can you see a whirlpool in water?
Can pilots see CAT?
A Black Hole is a standing wave whirlpool in the aether below our Space. No matter of our size can exist within it because it gets spinning so fast its charges fly apart into twin jets. (Those jets will be proven to be opposite in spin/charge- Logic says they have to be.)

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#647072

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>(Those jets will be proven to be opposite in spin/charge- Logic
>says they have to be.)

Explain this so-called "logic" to us.

(and we already know the jets are uncharged)

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#646608

The Starmaker wrote:
> The Other Side of a Black Hole
>
>
> it appears that yous people
> have no idea what lies, or
> what it looks like at
> The Other Side of a Black Hole.
>
>
> Maybe yous are not allowed to think that far yet...






Trick question.
As there is no "other side"
It's just a non-dimensional singularity in your 3D universe , PERIOD. 

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#646611

Bast
"Trick question. 
As there is no "other side" 
It's just a non-dimensional singularity in your 3D universe , PERIOD. 
"
And, as a singularity does not and cannot exist materially, a BH does not contain ANY material. Our matter CANNOT exist within it.
It is, plainly and simply, Space spinning too fast for Matter made from charges of our size to stay together. That's why oppositely-moving jets of HEPs IMMEDIATELY are formed at right angles to the disc when a stars falls in.
Which is OBSERVED, you hypnotized zombies 

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#646613

About Black Holes

There are jets of HEPs ( high energy particles) blasting forth from the centres of galaxies everywhere. 
Rapid rotation causes jets like this.
Therefore the centres of galaxies- the "black Holes"- are places of extreme rotation where Matter is shredded.
 http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/swift/bursts/shredded-star.html

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#646747

Bast wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Other Side of a Black Hole
> >
> >
> > it appears that yous people
> > have no idea what lies, or
> > what it looks like at
> > The Other Side of a Black Hole.
> >
> >
> > Maybe yous are not allowed to think that far yet...
> 
> Trick question.
> As there is no "other side"
> It's just a non-dimensional singularity in your 3D universe , PERIOD.


isn't there two sides to every coin?...you Bast..

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#646854

Am 21.08.2017 um 20:34 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Bast wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Other Side of a Black Hole
>>>
>>>
>>> it appears that yous people
>>> have no idea what lies, or
>>> what it looks like at
>>> The Other Side of a Black Hole.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe yous are not allowed to think that far yet...
>>
>> Trick question.
>> As there is no "other side"
>> It's just a non-dimensional singularity in your 3D universe , PERIOD.
>
>
> isn't there two sides to every coin?...you Bast..
>

What we see in the night sky is only a subset of a more complicated 
universe.

So: disappearing from our view/universe does not say, that something 
does not exist at all. It is just invisible (for us).

E.g. assume to be near the center of our home galaxy. There is actually 
a black hole (from our perspective here on Earth).

But if you observe the Earth from there, it is the Earth that vanishes 
in a black hole. And there (near this supposed singularity) you find 
nothing unusual - only Earth is apparently swallowed by a cosmic monster.

If so, there exist kind of 'horizon' to a certain piece of the universe 
(e.g. our home solar system) and going somewhere else allows to enter a 
zone, where this horizon has an angle towards ours.

If this angle is greater than 45°, the area (and its content) gets 
invisible. The stuff there seems to disappear and time runs in odd 
directions.

But if you fly to such a place, there is nothing unusual, while the 
strange things happen at the place you have started from.

Now we take this 'horizon' as representative of a sheet, where the axis 
of time of the black hole points to, than on the other side time would 
run backwards and what formerly fell into the black hole would pop out 
of a white hole.


TH

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#647121

"The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:59987B7D.5CAE@ix.netcom.com... 

The Other Side of a Black Hole

it appears that yous people
have no idea what lies, or
what it looks like at
The Other Side of a Black Hole.


*** on the other side of every Black Hole there is a
"noTroll", or, in technical terms, an "Asshole".

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