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| Started by | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| First post | 2026-07-22 21:01 +0200 |
| Last post | 2026-08-18 16:42 +0200 |
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The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-22 21:01 +0200
Deadlock Exorcism: Switch from Push to Pull [A pi-calculus Specification of Prolog] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 00:25 +0200
Why do you even need a mpmc queue? [Thunder Kittens] (Re: Deadlock Exorcism: Switch from Push to Pull) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 08:45 +0200
Trivial balancing example for (int i=0; i<global_id; i++) (Re: Why do you even need a mpmc queue? [Thunder Kittens]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 08:55 +0200
The Pixel Phone AI Experiment Song (Enqueue/dequeue need not be fast and can spinn ["fairness" questions]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 09:19 +0200
Enqueue/dequeue need not be fast and can spinn ["fairness" questions] (Re: The Pixel Phone AI Experiment Song (Enqueue/dequeue need not be fast and can spinn ["fairness" questions]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 09:23 +0200
And, where did I talk about rockets? [Hint its about xAI's Grok] (Re: Why do you even need a mpmc queue? [Thunder Kittens]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-25 01:25 +0200
Why forget something, that was never on my mind (Re: And, where did I talk about rockets? [Hint its about xAI's Grok]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-25 09:49 +0200
Example Mandel Brot rendering [Faster with MIMD] (Was: Why do you even need a mpmc queue? [Thunder Kittens]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-25 09:56 +0200
Potential Python Recovery: Free Threading [3.13 release] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 10:21 +0200
The things XILINX braught to the AMD table (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 18:48 +0200
NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling] (Re: The things XILINX braught to the AMD table) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 19:13 +0200
Micro penis mother sung arias (Re: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 14:40 +0200
Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus (Re: Micro penis mother sung arias) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 15:27 +0200
Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care [(Re: Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus (Re: Micro penis mother sung arias) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 15:35 +0200
You are a moron, brainless putin payed (Re: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 18:01 +0200
Yeah keep reading my posts, uninspired fool (Re: You are a moron, brainless putin payed) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 19:47 +0200
Out of the blue accusation span 15 days [Empirical USENET study] (Re: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:27 +0200
A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy] (Re: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 18:41 +0200
I didn't use a Ryzen Halo, whats wrong with you? (Re: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:25 +0200
Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month (Re: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 00:07 +0200
Re: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling] (Re: The things XILINX braught to the AMD table) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 14:17 +0200
ASML stocks are plunging, bye bye dutchies (Re: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 14:18 +0200
Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 17:59 +0200
2008: 4 Blades + Tesla S1070 versus 2026: 1 AI Laptop (Re: Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 18:15 +0200
Budget AI Laptop 2026 versus Cray T3D 1995 (Was: Little Data Center on Your Palm) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-05 14:21 +0200
Re: Budget AI Laptop 2026 versus Cray T3D 1995 R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-08-05 21:11 +0000
AI Alarmist with Supercomputer on Yacht [Horsy Boy] (Was: Budget AI Laptop 2026 versus Cray T3D 1995) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-06 13:21 +0200
Re: AI Alarmist with Supercomputer on Yacht [Horsy Boy] R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-08-06 11:56 +0000
Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:37 +0200
Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta (Re: Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:58 +0200
Could take 3-4 months find machine / browser (Re: Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 21:16 +0200
The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S] (Re: Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-26 19:54 +0200
The turbo capping of AI Laptops (Was: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-26 20:00 +0200
Re: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S] (Re: Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 09:16 +0200
Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind (Re: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 09:16 +0200
miniTriton CUDA is an alternative to torch variants (Re: Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 09:52 +0200
Andrej Karpathy original gangster of Budget Laptop (Re: miniTriton CUDA is an alternative to torch variants) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 09:54 +0200
The evolution of hardware and GPT-2 training (Re: Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 10:57 +0200
How speed up π-WAM with vector operations (Re: The evolution of hardware and GPT-2 training) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 11:10 +0200
AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying] (Re: How speed up π-WAM with vector operations) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 13:21 +0200
The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Re: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 13:22 +0200
Re: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Re: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 07:34 -0700
Maybe they should have named it NVIDIA Einstein [Rossy Boy Toe Sucking] (Was: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 17:12 +0200
Re: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Re: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.com> - 2026-07-27 15:43 +0000
Re: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Re: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) R Kym Horsell <kymhorsell@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:46 +0000
π-WAM is not adding decimals, it is removing decimals (Was: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 18:34 +0200
In Budget Laptops the TOPS come with low energy footprint (Re: π-WAM is not adding decimals, it is removing decimals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 18:45 +0200
Potato Computer owner impressed by Ukraine Tech [Rossy Boys Brother?] (Was: Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 16:56 +0200
Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein (Was: Potato Computer owner impressed by Ukraine Tech) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 18:25 +0200
You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Re: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:12 +0200
Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:53 +0200
Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Re: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:55 +0200
Forget any arithmetization of product FSA (Re: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:58 +0200
Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:06 +0200
I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:25 +0200
Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris] (Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 22:52 +0200
A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:11 +0200
Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM] (Was: A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 11:25 +0200
I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch [4 Months total JavaScript, Python and Java] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:37 +0200
For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:51 +0200
Corr.: 4 Months --> 4 Weeks (Re: For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 20:05 +0200
MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it] (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 22:32 +0200
Not declarative with PHI (Φ) nodes (Was: MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 22:38 +0200
Not declarative with PHI (Φ) nodes (Re: MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 22:39 +0200
Re: MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it] (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 09:52 -0700
Re: MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it] (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 10:00 -0700
Re: MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it] (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 10:07 -0700
Quo Vadis: Extend investigations to WebNN (Was: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch [4 Months total JavaScript, Python and Java]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-31 20:43 +0200
Standing on the shoulders of giants (Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 03:19 +0200
You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. (Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 15:19 +0200
How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop] (Re: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 17:58 +0200
Statistics gave up, no salient truth [Signal Collapse] Re: How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop] (Re: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 18:17 +0200
Got it. Or are you too stupid? [New Usenet Mantra] (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 18:59 +0200
Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 13:03 +0200
AI Accelerators and ISO Prolog multi-threading (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:02 +0200
Actor/Erlang is dead, no Thread and Mailbox conflation [golang channels] (Re: AI Accelerators and ISO Prolog multi-threading) (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:04 +0200
Can library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Re: Actor/Erlang is dead, no Thread and Mailbox conflation ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 02:32 +0200
Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 12:19 +0200
NPUs doing 2d chess comms (Manhattan Distance or L1 Norm) (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 14:12 +0200
NACK retransmission might double Manhattan Distance (Re: NPUs doing 2d chess comms) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 14:24 +0200
I am using WebGPU, and not WebGL (Re: NACK retransmission might double Manhattan Distance) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 00:47 +0200
Texture inside my compute shader makes no sense (Re: I am using WebGPU, and not WebGL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 02:40 +0200
Prolog inferencing and not canvasing fancy stuff (Re: Texture inside my compute shader makes no sense) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 02:42 +0200
It’s called . . . . enshittification (About the price tag for using a multifile/1) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-14 00:49 +0200
Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 13:58 -0500
Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Was: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 02:46 +0200
npm install webgpu [Google Dawn] (Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 03:03 +0200
GPU elasticity was already invented in 2008 with CUDA (Re: npm install webgpu [Google Dawn]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 00:01 +0200
Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project] (Was: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-08 09:17 +0200
Re: Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project] (Was: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) x3 <x@x.net> - 2026-08-08 11:45 -0700
Nice try Rossy Boy --> **plonk** (Was: Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-08 23:02 +0200
Ethernal September Idiots Gone (Was: Nice try Rossy Boy --> **plonk**) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-08 23:15 +0200
Six Proofs and Generally Inteligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism] (Re: Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 15:19 +0200
Everybody does eat and sleep [The SK hynix Story] (Was: Six Proofs and Generally Intelligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 18:47 +0200
Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:39 +0200
GPU Elasticity: Collective Communications Libraries (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-07 14:35 +0200
What are Flits and Phits? [Network on a Chip] (Was: GPU Elasticity: Collective Communications Libraries) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-07 18:05 +0200
The Mac Neo is a Budget Monster [GPU Channels] (Re: What are Flits and Phits? [Network on a Chip]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-11 16:25 +0200
The luminaries of duct-tape engineering [Sweeney and Torvald] (Re: The Mac Neo is a Budget Monster [GPU Channels]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-11 16:54 +0200
Cristallina: Thank you for the Beam (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-09 21:19 +0200
Re: Cristallina: Thank you for the Beam (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 14:56 +0200
Giant Shoulders for AI Surprises (Was: Cristallina: Thank you for the Beam) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 14:57 +0200
Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 16:23 +0200
How to shoot yourself in the foot (Was: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 16:42 +0200
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2026-08-09 21:19 +0200 |
| Subject | Cristallina: Thank you for the Beam (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) |
| Message-ID | <115ajs3$6g3f$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #896394 |
Hi, How it started: Filming a vitamin B12 photoreceptor in action https://www.psi.ch/de/news/science-features/filming-a-vitamin-b12-photoreceptor-in-action How its going: Elon Musk's potential FEL route could challenge EUV lithography https://www.kucoin.com/news/flash/elon-musk-s-potential-fel-route-could-challenge-euv-lithography Who will win the Nano Atom mover race, will the USA OutChip its competitor China and its supplier Asia in the next years? Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > Remember when first all local AI was Python > and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people started > using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story: > > How it started: > > GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large > language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI > in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a > generative pre-trained transformer model > designed to produce human-like text that > continues from a prompt. > https://www.eleuther.ai/ > > How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]: > > So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do > some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65 > billion parameters. You probably need about > 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So > this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?” > > Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically, > for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture > with some modifications, like some extra memorization > layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the > existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply > modified it there, it happened pretty quickly. > https://changelog.com/podcast/532 > > Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging > Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips. > ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml > > Bye
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 14:56 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Cristallina: Thank you for the Beam (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) |
| Message-ID | <1161kpi$ma79$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #896625 |
Hi, Obviously to generate AI Surprises, you have to stand on the shoulder of giants. Otherwise you will not discover surprises, right? Only mediocre deja vues. For this purpose, and maybe otherwise related, in a discussion concerning the future of the library, Marvin Minsky and Edward A. Feigenbaum endorsed the idea for books to ‘talk to each other’: LET DOCUMENTS TALK TO EACH OTHER Z. CHEN - 1993 doi.org/10.1108/eb026910 Now we have: THE MACHINES ARE STUDYING THE HUMANS ARE SCROLLING https://9gag.com/gag/a9yQ16o Bye P.S.: But who was Marvin Minsky, and would it be important to use symbolic AI? The Perceptron Controversy Yuxi Liu - 2024 https://yuxi.ml/essays/perceptron-controversy Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > How it started: > > Filming a vitamin B12 photoreceptor in action > https://www.psi.ch/de/news/science-features/filming-a-vitamin-b12-photoreceptor-in-action > > > How its going: > > Elon Musk's potential FEL route could challenge EUV lithography > https://www.kucoin.com/news/flash/elon-musk-s-potential-fel-route-could-challenge-euv-lithography > > > Who will win the Nano Atom mover race, > > will the USA OutChip its competitor China > and its supplier Asia in the next years? > > Bye > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> Remember when first all local AI was Python >> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people started >> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story: >> >> How it started: >> >> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large >> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI >> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a >> generative pre-trained transformer model >> designed to produce human-like text that >> continues from a prompt. >> https://www.eleuther.ai/ >> >> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]: >> >> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do >> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65 >> billion parameters. You probably need about >> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So >> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?” >> >> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically, >> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture >> with some modifications, like some extra memorization >> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the >> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply >> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly. >> https://changelog.com/podcast/532 >> >> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging >> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips. >> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml >> >> Bye >
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 14:57 +0200 |
| Subject | Giant Shoulders for AI Surprises (Was: Cristallina: Thank you for the Beam) |
| Message-ID | <1161krd$ma79$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #896625 |
Hi, Obviously to generate AI Surprises, you have to stand on the shoulder of giants. Otherwise you will not discover surprises, right? Only mediocre deja vues. For this purpose, and maybe otherwise related, in a discussion concerning the future of the library, Marvin Minsky and Edward A. Feigenbaum endorsed the idea for books to ‘talk to each other’: LET DOCUMENTS TALK TO EACH OTHER Z. CHEN - 1993 doi.org/10.1108/eb026910 Now we have: THE MACHINES ARE STUDYING THE HUMANS ARE SCROLLING https://9gag.com/gag/a9yQ16o Bye P.S.: But who was Marvin Minsky, and would it be important to use symbolic AI? The Perceptron Controversy Yuxi Liu - 2024 https://yuxi.ml/essays/perceptron-controversy Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > How it started: > > Filming a vitamin B12 photoreceptor in action > https://www.psi.ch/de/news/science-features/filming-a-vitamin-b12-photoreceptor-in-action > > > How its going: > > Elon Musk's potential FEL route could challenge EUV lithography > https://www.kucoin.com/news/flash/elon-musk-s-potential-fel-route-could-challenge-euv-lithography > > > Who will win the Nano Atom mover race, > > will the USA OutChip its competitor China > and its supplier Asia in the next years? > > Bye > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> Remember when first all local AI was Python >> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people started >> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story: >> >> How it started: >> >> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large >> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI >> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a >> generative pre-trained transformer model >> designed to produce human-like text that >> continues from a prompt. >> https://www.eleuther.ai/ >> >> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]: >> >> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do >> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65 >> billion parameters. You probably need about >> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So >> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?” >> >> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically, >> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture >> with some modifications, like some extra memorization >> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the >> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply >> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly. >> https://changelog.com/podcast/532 >> >> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging >> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips. >> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml >> >> Bye >
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 16:23 +0200 |
| Subject | Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group] |
| Message-ID | <1161pt7$mbl1$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #896676 |
Hi, Sometimes I think the Loderunner Enemy AI was way ahead of its time: Lode Runner - Broderbund - 1983 - Apple II https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJZJepU8law Meanwhile SWI-Prolog Prologers even don't know whether a Prolog text is CNF or DNF: Sets of rules as conjunctions and/or disjunctions https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/sets-of-rules-as-conjunctions-and-or-disjunctions/9779 No Wonder that the EyeProlog "why" feature produces nonsense. Even a Flea circus is less crazy. Bye P.S.: If only there would exist something like universities where one can take a basic course in FOL, and then a world wide web, where one can lookup clark equational theory, clark completion, curry howard correspondence, etc.. etc.. Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > Obviously to generate AI Surprises, > you have to stand on the shoulder of > giants. Otherwise you will not discover > > surprises, right? Only mediocre deja vues. > For this purpose, and maybe otherwise > related, in a discussion concerning the future > > of the library, Marvin Minsky and Edward A. > Feigenbaum endorsed the idea for books > to ‘talk to each other’: > > LET DOCUMENTS TALK TO EACH OTHER > Z. CHEN - 1993 > doi.org/10.1108/eb026910 > > Now we have: > > THE MACHINES ARE STUDYING > THE HUMANS ARE SCROLLING > https://9gag.com/gag/a9yQ16o > > Bye > > P.S.: But who was Marvin Minsky, and would it > be important to use symbolic AI? > > The Perceptron Controversy > Yuxi Liu - 2024 > https://yuxi.ml/essays/perceptron-controversy > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> How it started: >> >> Filming a vitamin B12 photoreceptor in action >> https://www.psi.ch/de/news/science-features/filming-a-vitamin-b12-photoreceptor-in-action >> >> >> How its going: >> >> Elon Musk's potential FEL route could challenge EUV lithography >> https://www.kucoin.com/news/flash/elon-musk-s-potential-fel-route-could-challenge-euv-lithography >> >> >> Who will win the Nano Atom mover race, >> >> will the USA OutChip its competitor China >> and its supplier Asia in the next years? >> >> Bye >> >> Mild Shock schrieb: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Remember when first all local AI was Python >>> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people started >>> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story: >>> >>> How it started: >>> >>> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large >>> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI >>> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a >>> generative pre-trained transformer model >>> designed to produce human-like text that >>> continues from a prompt. >>> https://www.eleuther.ai/ >>> >>> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]: >>> >>> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do >>> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65 >>> billion parameters. You probably need about >>> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So >>> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?” >>> >>> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically, >>> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture >>> with some modifications, like some extra memorization >>> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the >>> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply >>> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly. >>> https://changelog.com/podcast/532 >>> >>> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging >>> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips. >>> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml >>> >>> Bye >> >
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 16:42 +0200 |
| Subject | How to shoot yourself in the foot (Was: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group]) |
| Message-ID | <1161r1b$mchr$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #896677 |
Hi, The biggest joke, is to have logic somewhere in procedure and somewhere in declarative, and try to see different takes on logic. They really don't know what this mantra means: Algorithm = Logic + Control And cannot relate it to the ideas of declarative reading and procedural reading. The problem is a too lax introduction of this notions, prematurely before the notion "logic" is even understood. But nobody understands the meaning of the term "logic", i.e. a set of supposedly tautological sentences, as under- stood by mathematical logic. There is a subtle error again to conflate it with a "calculus", so this website has a very misleanding title, although they try hard to not commit the fallacy, and have subtitles "Proof System" and "Logic Level": Welcome to LogicProof https://6ximik9.github.io/naturalDeduction/ The there is this moron: There is only one “minimal logic”. The term denotes Johansson’s Minimalkalkül [1937] — intuitionistic logic without ex falso quodlibet — and nothing else. No rival system competes for the name. https://vidal-rosset.net/rule-correspondence-F.html Of course there are rival "Proof Systems" aka calculi, even when the "Logic Level" is minimal logic. It is as if Joseph Vidal-Rosset doesn't understand basic German. You have to look behind "Minimalkalkül" to find "Minimallogic". Right? To identify calculus with logic, is maybe a 1930's fallacy, but then we had model theory besides proof theory, and people should be more educated now. Model theory can be also expanded to non-classical logics and even minimal logic, to give a purely semantic reading. Ok some modern morons think they need to invoke the word "algebraic". Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > Sometimes I think the Loderunner Enemy AI > was way ahead of its time: > > Lode Runner - Broderbund - 1983 - Apple II > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJZJepU8law > > Meanwhile SWI-Prolog Prologers even don't know > whether a Prolog text is CNF or DNF: > > Sets of rules as conjunctions and/or disjunctions > https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/sets-of-rules-as-conjunctions-and-or-disjunctions/9779 > > > No Wonder that the EyeProlog "why" feature produces > nonsense. Even a Flea circus is less crazy. > > Bye > > P.S.: If only there would exist something like > universities where one can take a basic course in > FOL, and then a world wide web, where one can > > lookup clark equational theory, clark completion, > curry howard correspondence, etc.. etc.. > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> Obviously to generate AI Surprises, >> you have to stand on the shoulder of >> giants. Otherwise you will not discover >> >> surprises, right? Only mediocre deja vues. >> For this purpose, and maybe otherwise >> related, in a discussion concerning the future >> >> of the library, Marvin Minsky and Edward A. >> Feigenbaum endorsed the idea for books >> to ‘talk to each other’: >> >> LET DOCUMENTS TALK TO EACH OTHER >> Z. CHEN - 1993 >> doi.org/10.1108/eb026910 >> >> Now we have: >> >> THE MACHINES ARE STUDYING >> THE HUMANS ARE SCROLLING >> https://9gag.com/gag/a9yQ16o >> >> Bye >> >> P.S.: But who was Marvin Minsky, and would it >> be important to use symbolic AI? >> >> The Perceptron Controversy >> Yuxi Liu - 2024 >> https://yuxi.ml/essays/perceptron-controversy >> >> Mild Shock schrieb: >>> Hi, >>> >>> How it started: >>> >>> Filming a vitamin B12 photoreceptor in action >>> https://www.psi.ch/de/news/science-features/filming-a-vitamin-b12-photoreceptor-in-action >>> >>> >>> How its going: >>> >>> Elon Musk's potential FEL route could challenge EUV lithography >>> https://www.kucoin.com/news/flash/elon-musk-s-potential-fel-route-could-challenge-euv-lithography >>> >>> >>> Who will win the Nano Atom mover race, >>> >>> will the USA OutChip its competitor China >>> and its supplier Asia in the next years? >>> >>> Bye >>> >>> Mild Shock schrieb: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Remember when first all local AI was Python >>>> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people started >>>> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story: >>>> >>>> How it started: >>>> >>>> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large >>>> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI >>>> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a >>>> generative pre-trained transformer model >>>> designed to produce human-like text that >>>> continues from a prompt. >>>> https://www.eleuther.ai/ >>>> >>>> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]: >>>> >>>> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do >>>> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65 >>>> billion parameters. You probably need about >>>> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So >>>> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?” >>>> >>>> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically, >>>> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture >>>> with some modifications, like some extra memorization >>>> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the >>>> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply >>>> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly. >>>> https://changelog.com/podcast/532 >>>> >>>> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging >>>> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips. >>>> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml >>>> >>>> Bye >>> >> >
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