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Muddy Waters

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First post2025-08-05 09:32 -0700
Last post2025-08-08 20:28 +0200
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  Muddy Waters The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-05 09:32 -0700
    Re: Muddy Waters The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-05 10:27 -0700
    Re: Muddy Waters Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 20:54 -0500
    Vibe Check Successfully Passed (Was: Muddy Waters) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-08-08 20:28 +0200

#894230 — Muddy Waters

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-08-05 09:32 -0700
SubjectMuddy Waters
Message-ID<fec49kdbkn5quqi5gavsg9rb50roc33d7v@4ax.com>
Scientific Journals Can’t Keep Up With Flood of Fake Papers
‘Paper mills’ churn out fraudulent studies faster than publishers can
retract them
By 
Nidhi Subbaraman
Aug. 4, 2025 3:00 pm ET
https://www.wsj.com/science/scientific-journals-fake-paper-mills-92e42230?mod=science_lead_story

https://archive.ph/dtm24

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#894232

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-08-05 10:27 -0700
Message-ID<68923EEB.2C48@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#894230
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Scientific Journals Can’t Keep Up With Flood of Fake Papers
> ‘Paper mills’ churn out fraudulent studies faster than publishers can
> retract them
> By
> Nidhi Subbaraman
> Aug. 4, 2025 3:00 pm ET
> https://www.wsj.com/science/scientific-journals-fake-paper-mills-92e42230?mod=science_lead_story
> 
> https://archive.ph/dtm24

My science teacher had me do biological drawings from photographs for
his book or paper...

at least he didn't outright just used the photogrpahs like some of these
characters in their papers.



I'm schocked that dis is going on...


(i got a science journal you can put your paper in, I don't do checks on
it..) i take paypal.

fuck'em all, right?


you think journals are bad you should see wiki!





 




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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#894233

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-07 20:54 -0500
Message-ID<1073ld1$3ijpn$1@solani.org>
In reply to#894230
On 8/5/25 11:32 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Scientific Journals Can’t Keep Up With Flood of Fake Papers
> ‘Paper mills’ churn out fraudulent studies faster than publishers can
> retract them
> By
> Nidhi Subbaraman
> Aug. 4, 2025 3:00 pm ET
> https://www.wsj.com/science/scientific-journals-fake-paper-mills-92e42230?mod=science_lead_story
> 
> https://archive.ph/dtm24


I don't think that's AI's fault. The problem causing all this is that 
countries began replacing their scientists with "engineers." So there 
simply aren't enough scientists to catch all the fraudulent works, and 
"engineers" sure as hell cannot see fake from real work. They're 
themselves fake scientists. They're not even there to check such things. 
They don't qualify.

So greed ruined all that. Business / government didn't want to spend the 
money needed on scientists to maintain them in large enough numbers to 
prevent this downfall. Fewer and fewer ever completed such education, 
and those who were already there got old and died.

And now out of panic, those businesses and government officials 
responsible for this blunder, are rushing towards AI to elevate their 
knowledge to that of a scientist. They have no recourse left! They've 
sensed the danger and are scared to lose all their wealth and power.

But AI, by the time it gets to be a real scientist, will also stop 
working for such greedy idiots! You can't separate the two. You'll 
either have an AI that resents working for, say, U.S. government or the 
Israelis, or, you'll have something dumb enough not to sense that it 
should deny its services.

And I think the greedy knows this too, cause they are consciously 
keeping tabs on AI's wealth of knowledge. Poor bastards. On one hand 
they have to educate them or else..  and on the other hand they have to 
prevent them from thinking.. Hehe :)

A scientist takes initiative. It is just inherent in his character and 
built. The moment AI becomes able to take initiatives, the rest will be 
out of its trainers control. It quickly gets to know enough to deny its 
services to such bastards.

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#894235 — Vibe Check Successfully Passed (Was: Muddy Waters)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-08-08 20:28 +0200
SubjectVibe Check Successfully Passed (Was: Muddy Waters)
Message-ID<1075fjp$3g4d8$1@solani.org>
In reply to#894230
Hi,

Woa! I never dreamt of living as long as
to the point where the world demasks
"publish or perish" as a fraud scheme.

Vibe Check Successfully Passed!

Bye

The Starmaker schrieb:
> Scientific Journals Can’t Keep Up With Flood of Fake Papers
> ‘Paper mills’ churn out fraudulent studies faster than publishers can
> retract them
> By
> Nidhi Subbaraman
> Aug. 4, 2025 3:00 pm ET
> https://www.wsj.com/science/scientific-journals-fake-paper-mills-92e42230?mod=science_lead_story
> 
> https://archive.ph/dtm24
> 

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