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Re: Muddy Waters

From Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: Muddy Waters
Date 2025-08-07 20:54 -0500
Organization Modern Human
Message-ID <1073ld1$3ijpn$1@solani.org> (permalink)
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On 8/5/25 11:32 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Scientific Journals Can’t Keep Up With Flood of Fake Papers
> ‘Paper mills’ churn out fraudulent studies faster than publishers can
> retract them
> By
> Nidhi Subbaraman
> Aug. 4, 2025 3:00 pm ET
> https://www.wsj.com/science/scientific-journals-fake-paper-mills-92e42230?mod=science_lead_story
> 
> https://archive.ph/dtm24


I don't think that's AI's fault. The problem causing all this is that 
countries began replacing their scientists with "engineers." So there 
simply aren't enough scientists to catch all the fraudulent works, and 
"engineers" sure as hell cannot see fake from real work. They're 
themselves fake scientists. They're not even there to check such things. 
They don't qualify.

So greed ruined all that. Business / government didn't want to spend the 
money needed on scientists to maintain them in large enough numbers to 
prevent this downfall. Fewer and fewer ever completed such education, 
and those who were already there got old and died.

And now out of panic, those businesses and government officials 
responsible for this blunder, are rushing towards AI to elevate their 
knowledge to that of a scientist. They have no recourse left! They've 
sensed the danger and are scared to lose all their wealth and power.

But AI, by the time it gets to be a real scientist, will also stop 
working for such greedy idiots! You can't separate the two. You'll 
either have an AI that resents working for, say, U.S. government or the 
Israelis, or, you'll have something dumb enough not to sense that it 
should deny its services.

And I think the greedy knows this too, cause they are consciously 
keeping tabs on AI's wealth of knowledge. Poor bastards. On one hand 
they have to educate them or else..  and on the other hand they have to 
prevent them from thinking.. Hehe :)

A scientist takes initiative. It is just inherent in his character and 
built. The moment AI becomes able to take initiatives, the rest will be 
out of its trainers control. It quickly gets to know enough to deny its 
services to such bastards.

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