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  In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 07:58 -0500
    Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-15 17:40 +0000
    Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-15 13:13 -0500
      see my other item, not by poor aBu noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 18:07 -0700
    Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries Boris Mohar <borism_void_@sympatico.ca> - 2015-09-16 09:18 -0400
    Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 14:39 -0700
      Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 15:29 -0700
        Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 11:58 -0700
          Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-22 19:26 +0000
          Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-22 16:08 -0700
            Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-22 23:21 +0000
            Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-09-22 19:32 -0700
          Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 15:11 -0700
            Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 13:17 -0700
              Re: In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 17:21 -0700

#521252 — In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries

In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448

> They used two separate tree ring data sets that had been previously
> published, one that indicated changes in precipitation over time, and
> the other temperature. (Trees grow less in times of lean
> precipitation, and some trees can be sensitive to spikes and drops in
> temperatures.)
>
> Based on the 500-year record the team had, they calculated that the
> odds of such a low snowpack happening more than once over that time
> period were less than 5 percent, Trouet said. They estimated the
> return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years, but with a
> large amount of uncertainty attached to that, because of the inherent
> uncertainty in such historic records. (The return time also varied
> with elevation, happening more often at higher elevations than at
> lower ones.)
>

   The question everyone is asking--will the jimp see the word
   "uncertainty" and try to invalidate the validity of the tree ring
   data over the last 500 years.



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#521308

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448
 
>> return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years, but with a
>> large amount of uncertainty attached to that, because of the inherent
>> uncertainty in such historic records.

Or in other words, it is a wild assed guess, spamming shit head.

Tree ring data is hardly anywhere near a precise indicator of snow pack
levels, spamming shit head.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#521323

On 9/15/2015 7:58 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:

      they say it is largely uncertain.

>> They estimated the
>> return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years,

*but with a large amount of uncertainty attached to that*
*because of the inherent uncertainty in such historic records*

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#523210 — see my other item, not by poor aBu

it is really the same problem as drought, because
El ninO is a-coming

> *but with a large amount of uncertainty attached to that*
> *because of the inherent uncertainty in such historic records*

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#521450

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 07:58:06 -0500, Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:

>In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448
>
 
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/14/claim-sierra-nevada-snowpack-lowest-in-five-centuries/
-- 
Boris

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#522307

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:58:13 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
> > http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448
> 
> > They used two separate tree ring data sets that had been previously
> > published, one that indicated changes in precipitation over time, and
> > the other temperature. (Trees grow less in times of lean
> > precipitation, and some trees can be sensitive to spikes and drops in
> > temperatures.)
> >
> > Based on the 500-year record the team had, they calculated that the
> > odds of such a low snowpack happening more than once over that time
> > period were less than 5 percent, Trouet said. They estimated the
> > return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years, but with a
> > large amount of uncertainty attached to that, because of the inherent
> > uncertainty in such historic records. (The return time also varied
> > with elevation, happening more often at higher elevations than at
> > lower ones.)
> >
> 
>    The question everyone is asking--will the jimp see the word
>    "uncertainty" and try to invalidate the validity of the tree ring
>    data over the last 500 years.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

After this 100F weekend LA is ready for the Glazier Glacier.Even if used only to keep Bud on ice its worth every penny. Only cost is towing.Bud light might pick up the bill.

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#522577

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:39:31 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:58:13 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
> > > http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448
> > 
> > > They used two separate tree ring data sets that had been previously
> > > published, one that indicated changes in precipitation over time, and
> > > the other temperature. (Trees grow less in times of lean
> > > precipitation, and some trees can be sensitive to spikes and drops in
> > > temperatures.)
> > >
> > > Based on the 500-year record the team had, they calculated that the
> > > odds of such a low snowpack happening more than once over that time
> > > period were less than 5 percent, Trouet said. They estimated the
> > > return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years, but with a
> > > large amount of uncertainty attached to that, because of the inherent
> > > uncertainty in such historic records. (The return time also varied
> > > with elevation, happening more often at higher elevations than at
> > > lower ones.)
> > >
> > 
> >    The question everyone is asking--will the jimp see the word
> >    "uncertainty" and try to invalidate the validity of the tree ring
> >    data over the last 500 years.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > community, and physics-related social issues.
> 
> After this 100F weekend LA is ready for the Glazier Glacier.Even if used only to keep Bud on ice its worth every penny. Only cost is towing.Bud light might pick up the bill.

That tiny ice pack is melted away.t is hotter now than in July.LA is the center for global warming in the USA.All rain is east.All fresh water is east.All pretty girls are west.That is why "Go West is best"  O Ya  TreBert

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#522705

On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 3:29:14 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:39:31 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:58:13 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
> > > > http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448
> > > 
> > > > They used two separate tree ring data sets that had been previously
> > > > published, one that indicated changes in precipitation over time, and
> > > > the other temperature. (Trees grow less in times of lean
> > > > precipitation, and some trees can be sensitive to spikes and drops in
> > > > temperatures.)
> > > >
> > > > Based on the 500-year record the team had, they calculated that the
> > > > odds of such a low snowpack happening more than once over that time
> > > > period were less than 5 percent, Trouet said. They estimated the
> > > > return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years, but with a
> > > > large amount of uncertainty attached to that, because of the inherent
> > > > uncertainty in such historic records. (The return time also varied
> > > > with elevation, happening more often at higher elevations than at
> > > > lower ones.)
> > > >
> > > 
> > >    The question everyone is asking--will the jimp see the word
> > >    "uncertainty" and try to invalidate the validity of the tree ring
> > >    data over the last 500 years.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > 
> > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > > community, and physics-related social issues.
> > 
> > After this 100F weekend LA is ready for the Glazier Glacier.Even if used only to keep Bud on ice its worth every penny. Only cost is towing.Bud light might pick up the bill.
> 
> That tiny ice pack is melted away.t is hotter now than in July.LA is the center for global warming in the USA.All rain is east.All fresh water is east.All pretty girls are west.That is why "Go West is best"  O Ya  TreBert

Its hot no clouds no rain.Snow is a thing of the past.People this winter will go to Boston to see it snow.I left before it got 9 feet.My high rise van would be covered.Sking on Balda is a sport in the past. No gold  to pan.It does have lots of lucky nuggets that can sell for $5 each. TreBert

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#522707

reber g=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 3:29:14 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:39:31 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:58:13 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> > > In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
>> > > > http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448
>> > > 
>> > > > They used two separate tree ring data sets that had been previously
>> > > > published, one that indicated changes in precipitation over time, and
>> > > > the other temperature. (Trees grow less in times of lean
>> > > > precipitation, and some trees can be sensitive to spikes and drops in
>> > > > temperatures.)
>> > > >
>> > > > Based on the 500-year record the team had, they calculated that the
>> > > > odds of such a low snowpack happening more than once over that time
>> > > > period were less than 5 percent, Trouet said. They estimated the
>> > > > return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years, but with a
>> > > > large amount of uncertainty attached to that, because of the inherent
>> > > > uncertainty in such historic records. (The return time also varied
>> > > > with elevation, happening more often at higher elevations than at
>> > > > lower ones.)
>> > > >
>> > > 
>> > >    The question everyone is asking--will the jimp see the word
>> > >    "uncertainty" and try to invalidate the validity of the tree ring
>> > >    data over the last 500 years.
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > -- 
>> > > 
>> > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> > > community, and physics-related social issues.
>> > 
>> > After this 100F weekend LA is ready for the Glazier Glacier.Even if used only to keep Bud on ice its worth every penny. Only cost is towing.Bud light might pick up the bill.
>> 
>> That tiny ice pack is melted away.t is hotter now than in July.LA is the center for global warming in the USA.All rain is east.All fresh water is east.All pretty girls are west.That is why "Go West is best"  O Ya  TreBert
> 
> Its hot no clouds no rain.Snow is a thing of the past.People this winter will go to Boston to see it snow.I left before it got 9 feet.My high rise van would be covered.Sking on Balda is a sport in the past. No gold  to pan.It does have lots of lucky nuggets that can sell for $5 each. TreBert

With an expected high of 66 F, Mt Baldy in the Summer is indeed lacking
in snow.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#522742

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 11:58:09 AM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 3:29:14 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:39:31 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:58:13 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
> > > > > http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448
> > > > 
> > > > > They used two separate tree ring data sets that had been previously
> > > > > published, one that indicated changes in precipitation over time, and
> > > > > the other temperature. (Trees grow less in times of lean
> > > > > precipitation, and some trees can be sensitive to spikes and drops in
> > > > > temperatures.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Based on the 500-year record the team had, they calculated that the
> > > > > odds of such a low snowpack happening more than once over that time
> > > > > period were less than 5 percent, Trouet said. They estimated the
> > > > > return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years, but with a
> > > > > large amount of uncertainty attached to that, because of the inherent
> > > > > uncertainty in such historic records. (The return time also varied
> > > > > with elevation, happening more often at higher elevations than at
> > > > > lower ones.)
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > >    The question everyone is asking--will the jimp see the word
> > > >    "uncertainty" and try to invalidate the validity of the tree ring
> > > >    data over the last 500 years.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > 
> > > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > > > community, and physics-related social issues.
> > > 
> > > After this 100F weekend LA is ready for the Glazier Glacier.Even if used only to keep Bud on ice its worth every penny. Only cost is towing.Bud light might pick up the bill.
> > 
> > That tiny ice pack is melted away.t is hotter now than in July.LA is the center for global warming in the USA.All rain is east.All fresh water is east.All pretty girls are west.That is why "Go West is best"  O Ya  TreBert
> 
> Its hot no clouds no rain.Snow is a thing of the past.People this winter will go to Boston to see it snow.I left before it got 9 feet.My high rise van would be covered.Sking on Balda is a sport in the past. No gold  to pan.It does have lots of lucky nuggets that can sell for $5 each. TreBert


You should find a way to introduce artificial snow to the ski slope.  Could manke very you rich! $$$!

Double-A

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#522747

Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 11:58:09 AM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 3:29:14 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:39:31 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:58:13 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> > > > In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
>> > > > > http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448
>> > > > 
>> > > > > They used two separate tree ring data sets that had been previously
>> > > > > published, one that indicated changes in precipitation over time, and
>> > > > > the other temperature. (Trees grow less in times of lean
>> > > > > precipitation, and some trees can be sensitive to spikes and drops in
>> > > > > temperatures.)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Based on the 500-year record the team had, they calculated that the
>> > > > > odds of such a low snowpack happening more than once over that time
>> > > > > period were less than 5 percent, Trouet said. They estimated the
>> > > > > return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years, but with a
>> > > > > large amount of uncertainty attached to that, because of the inherent
>> > > > > uncertainty in such historic records. (The return time also varied
>> > > > > with elevation, happening more often at higher elevations than at
>> > > > > lower ones.)
>> > > > >
>> > > > 
>> > > >    The question everyone is asking--will the jimp see the word
>> > > >    "uncertainty" and try to invalidate the validity of the tree ring
>> > > >    data over the last 500 years.
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > -- 
>> > > > 
>> > > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> > > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> > > > community, and physics-related social issues.
>> > > 
>> > > After this 100F weekend LA is ready for the Glazier Glacier.Even if used only to keep Bud on ice its worth every penny. Only cost is towing.Bud light might pick up the bill.
>> > 
>> > That tiny ice pack is melted away.t is hotter now than in July.LA is the center for global warming in the USA.All rain is east.All fresh water is east.All pretty girls are west.That is why "Go West is best"  O Ya  TreBert
>> 
>> Its hot no clouds no rain.Snow is a thing of the past.People this winter will go to Boston to see it snow.I left before it got 9 feet.My high rise van would be covered.Sking on Balda is a sport in the past. No gold  to pan.It does have lots of lucky nuggets that can sell for $5 each. TreBert
> 
> 
> You should find a way to introduce artificial snow to the ski slope.  Could manke very you rich! $$$!
> 
> Double-A
 
Again many decades too late.

Mt. Baldy has had snow making machines for many, many decades but with
a daytime temperature of 66F and nights in the high 40's to low 50's it
would be a little difficult to make any snow.

One needs to wait until Winter when it will get cold.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#522774

"Double-A" <double-a3@hush.com> wrote in message 
news:21c1bd4c-81de-4157-8cd6-bb1e2cd6d08c@googlegroups.com...
On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 11:58:09 AM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 3:29:14 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:39:31 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:58:13 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
> > > > > http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448
> > > >
> > > > > They used two separate tree ring data sets that had been 
> > > > > previously
> > > > > published, one that indicated changes in precipitation over time, 
> > > > > and
> > > > > the other temperature. (Trees grow less in times of lean
> > > > > precipitation, and some trees can be sensitive to spikes and drops 
> > > > > in
> > > > > temperatures.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Based on the 500-year record the team had, they calculated that 
> > > > > the
> > > > > odds of such a low snowpack happening more than once over that 
> > > > > time
> > > > > period were less than 5 percent, Trouet said. They estimated the
> > > > > return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years, but 
> > > > > with a
> > > > > large amount of uncertainty attached to that, because of the 
> > > > > inherent
> > > > > uncertainty in such historic records. (The return time also varied
> > > > > with elevation, happening more often at higher elevations than at
> > > > > lower ones.)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >    The question everyone is asking--will the jimp see the word
> > > >    "uncertainty" and try to invalidate the validity of the tree ring
> > > >    data over the last 500 years.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > >
> > > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > > > community, and physics-related social issues.
> > >
> > > After this 100F weekend LA is ready for the Glazier Glacier.Even if 
> > > used only to keep Bud on ice its worth every penny. Only cost is 
> > > towing.Bud light might pick up the bill.
> >
> > That tiny ice pack is melted away.t is hotter now than in July.LA is the 
> > center for global warming in the USA.All rain is east.All fresh water is 
> > east.All pretty girls are west.That is why "Go West is best"  O Ya 
> > TreBert
>
> Its hot no clouds no rain.Snow is a thing of the past.People this winter 
> will go to Boston to see it snow.I left before it got 9 feet.My high rise 
> van would be covered.Sking on Balda is a sport in the past. No gold  to 
> pan.It does have lots of lucky nuggets that can sell for $5 each. TreBert
>
Double A wrote:
You should find a way to introduce artificial snow to the ski slope.  Could 
manke very you rich! $$$!
Double-A
>
hanson wrote:
They do make artificial snow every year  and have done so for decades,
2 mountain ranges further north of the North slope of Mt Baldy in the
Mountain High Resort in Wrightwood California. Google for it.
To late for Swine Glazier to make a buck! Pity.
>
Factoid:  On the North slope, in a semi-cave of Mt. Throop and
Mt Baden Powell there used to be a 50-100 ft wide 30 ft deep
crevice that had/s snow all year round It was the southern most
"glazier" in the USA and was visible & acessible from Highway 2.
But Swine Glazier, the self ascribed mountain man doesn't know that.
>
Re: Mt. Baldy:
There is/was a ski-lift at the end of they road to Baldy in walking
distance from the car [parking lot. It gets you up to Baldy Notch
where there's a Restaurant (which burnt down).
There are/were 4-6 different skim runs.
>
To get to the Mt Baldy Summit, the easy way is still a tough 3-4 hrs
hike from the 7800ft Baldy Notch that gets you along the "Devils back
Bone" and over Mt. Harwood finally to the 10000+ ft Baldy Summit
Swine Glazier has never been there, except in his lunacy when
Glazier posted that Social Security ought to build him a house
up there... ROTFLMAO!

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#523190

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 11:58:09 AM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 3:29:14 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:39:31 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:58:13 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
> > > > > http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448
> > > > 
> > > > > They used two separate tree ring data sets that had been previously
> > > > > published, one that indicated changes in precipitation over time, and
> > > > > the other temperature. (Trees grow less in times of lean
> > > > > precipitation, and some trees can be sensitive to spikes and drops in
> > > > > temperatures.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Based on the 500-year record the team had, they calculated that the
> > > > > odds of such a low snowpack happening more than once over that time
> > > > > period were less than 5 percent, Trouet said. They estimated the
> > > > > return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years, but with a
> > > > > large amount of uncertainty attached to that, because of the inherent
> > > > > uncertainty in such historic records. (The return time also varied
> > > > > with elevation, happening more often at higher elevations than at
> > > > > lower ones.)
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > >    The question everyone is asking--will the jimp see the word
> > > >    "uncertainty" and try to invalidate the validity of the tree ring
> > > >    data over the last 500 years.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > 
> > > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > > > community, and physics-related social issues.
> > > 
> > > After this 100F weekend LA is ready for the Glazier Glacier.Even if used only to keep Bud on ice its worth every penny. Only cost is towing.Bud light might pick up the bill.
> > 
> > That tiny ice pack is melted away.t is hotter now than in July.LA is the center for global warming in the USA.All rain is east.All fresh water is east.All pretty girls are west.That is why "Go West is best"  O Ya  TreBert
> 
> Its hot no clouds no rain.Snow is a thing of the past.People this winter will go to Boston to see it snow.I left before it got 9 feet.My high rise van would be covered.Sking on Balda is a sport in the past. No gold  to pan.It does have lots of lucky nuggets that can sell for $5 each. TreBert

High is 86 as I type.Sun very strong.Dry as a comet.It is nice being on Baldy in the Summer.I was the lone old man of the mountain.It was lonely but I had the pick of the nuggets. If it had a stream I figured out how to analyze stuff on the river floor with ease. TreBert

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#523292

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 3:11:36 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 11:58:09 AM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 3:29:14 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 2:39:31 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:58:13 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > > In California, a Paltry Snowpack Not Seen in Centuries
> > > > > > http://www.climatecentral.org/news/california-centuries-low-snowpack-19448
> > > > > 
> > > > > > They used two separate tree ring data sets that had been previously
> > > > > > published, one that indicated changes in precipitation over time, and
> > > > > > the other temperature. (Trees grow less in times of lean
> > > > > > precipitation, and some trees can be sensitive to spikes and drops in
> > > > > > temperatures.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Based on the 500-year record the team had, they calculated that the
> > > > > > odds of such a low snowpack happening more than once over that time
> > > > > > period were less than 5 percent, Trouet said. They estimated the
> > > > > > return period for such a low snowpack at 1 in 3,100 years, but with a
> > > > > > large amount of uncertainty attached to that, because of the inherent
> > > > > > uncertainty in such historic records. (The return time also varied
> > > > > > with elevation, happening more often at higher elevations than at
> > > > > > lower ones.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >    The question everyone is asking--will the jimp see the word
> > > > >    "uncertainty" and try to invalidate the validity of the tree ring
> > > > >    data over the last 500 years.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > 
> > > > > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > > > > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > > > > community, and physics-related social issues.
> > > > 
> > > > After this 100F weekend LA is ready for the Glazier Glacier.Even if used only to keep Bud on ice its worth every penny. Only cost is towing.Bud light might pick up the bill.
> > > 
> > > That tiny ice pack is melted away.t is hotter now than in July.LA is the center for global warming in the USA.All rain is east.All fresh water is east.All pretty girls are west.That is why "Go West is best"  O Ya  TreBert
> > 
> > Its hot no clouds no rain.Snow is a thing of the past.People this winter will go to Boston to see it snow.I left before it got 9 feet.My high rise van would be covered.Sking on Balda is a sport in the past. No gold  to pan.It does have lots of lucky nuggets that can sell for $5 each. TreBert
> 
> High is 86 as I type.Sun very strong.Dry as a comet.It is nice being on Baldy in the Summer.I was the lone old man of the mountain.It was lonely but I had the pick of the nuggets. If it had a stream I figured out how to analyze stuff on the river floor with ease. TreBert

Same 86 again no clouds. At Anaheim park ducks stay in the water.To hot to fly.Will be at poolside most of this weekend,and do what the ducks are doing. TreBert

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#523335

El ninO is coming;
cover teh ground, same as for drought

> Same 86 again no clouds. At Anaheim park ducks stay in the water.To hot to fly.Will be at poolside most of this weekend,and do what the ducks are doing. TreBert

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