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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery |
| Date | 2015-10-31 19:06 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <q2gfgc-tod.ln1@mail.specsol.com> (permalink) |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery >> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/10/a-recipe-for-an-affordable-safe-and-scalable-flow-battery/ > >> Cheap membranes and simple chemicals could store massive amounts of >> electricity. >> >> A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery > >> Whether we are willing to admit it or not, we are all rather >> dependent on batteries. We mostly think about small batteries at the >> individual level?in our cell phones, watches, or laptops. But >> batteries can be used in technologies that support multiple people, >> like the hybrid car. As scientists develop batteries with larger >> energy storage capacity, we can begin to expand our outlook to even >> grander applications. >> >> If batteries could be designed to safely store large amounts of >> energy, they could be integrated into the existing power grid. This >> type of integration could be used to store energy harvested from >> renewable sources such as solar and wind, and to smooth out sudden >> surges in demand. Recent advancements in a technology called >> redox-flow batteries (RFB) hold out a promise for scalable energy >> storage. >> >> RFBs are composed of organic materials that are able to transport >> electrons (redox-active). Almost all RFBs are composed of two pools >> of liquid electrolyte separated by a membrane, which allows some ions >> to cross between the two liquids. In these systems, electrons then >> flow from the negatively charged liquid (anolyte) through to the >> positive charged liquid (catholyte). These electrons can either >> charge the system or be extracted for use. Since the key components >> of the batteries are liquid, things can be scaled up simply by making >> the holding tanks larger. >> >> A new, affordable battery platform >> >> In order for this energy storage technology to work, the membrane >> must meet a high list of demands. The corrosive nature of the >> electrolyte requires a membrane with very high chemical stability. To >> commercialize the systems, the membrane needs to be inexpensive. All >> the materials used in the system must also be easy to manufacture on >> a large scale. >> >> The quality of the membrane is also of the utmost importance to the >> RFB performance. It must allow solely for the flow of electrons and >> must retain the active chemicals. This is critical to prevent >> short-circuits and a self-discharge. The high cost of membranes that >> meet these criteria poses a large obstacle to the commercialization >> of many RFBs. One particularly common membrane, Nafion, accounts for >> 40 percent of the cost of an entire cell. >> >> A team of scientists developed a battery system that combines a >> water-based electrolyte with an organic reactive material and a >> low-cost membrane. Their design includes an organic polymer as the >> redox-active species, simple salt (NaCl) as the electrolyte, and a >> regular dialysis membrane (the team used a cellulose-based dialysis >> membrane). These membranes are very inexpensive and are typically >> used at lab-scale to separate polymers Yet another pie-in-the-sky flow battery, spamming shit head? Or is this just yet another article about the flow battery you cut and pasted a few days ago spamming shit head? -- Jim Pennino
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A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 13:23 -0500
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-10-31 15:02 -0400
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 14:45 -0500
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-10-31 16:07 -0400
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 15:12 -0500
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-10-31 16:28 -0400
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 15:37 -0500
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-10-31 17:09 -0400
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 17:43 -0400
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-10-31 18:10 -0400
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-31 23:57 +0000
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 17:31 -0400
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 18:01 -0500
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 12:12 -0700
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 17:26 -0400
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-31 19:06 +0000
Re: A recipe for an affordable, safe, and scalable flow battery gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-31 16:20 -0500
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