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Re: The N orbital

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: The N orbital
Date 2018-11-13 15:14 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>The 1:2 orbit is a standing wave of synchronized rotations in two 
>orthogonal planes. As we know from gyroscopes, a spinning object resists 
>being being moved out of the plane of the spin.

And that is exactly why your retarded precessing spinny things are such a
failure. Conservation of angular momentum means that spinning things
actually resist precession without an external torque, much less actually
get all retarded and precess on their own like your OCD keeps screaming
at you.

Try the following experiment. Mount a bicycle securely so that its front
wheel is off the ground and handlebars can be rotated. Get the front wheel
spinning really, really good. Now (try to) turn the handlebars rapidly and
tell us what happens.

Or do this: Get an old computer hard drive. The larger rotating mass the
better, get an ancient 5 1/2" drive if you can.  Connect it to a computer
power supply but without mounting it in a chassis. Hold it in your hands.
While it is spinning, try to turn/rotate it.  Just try to turn it as if
you want to precess it at right angle to the angle of rotation. It's
almost as if it fights back, or if someone is trying to wrest the drive
out of your hands.

> So an orbit like this 
>will resist being moved out of either plane, and all forces on it will 
>act to move it only along the intersection of the two planes.
>So individual atoms will only be affected by gravity along this intersection.

How the hell did you come up with something as stupid as that last 
sentence from the rest of what you wrote?

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The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-10 14:48 -0800
  Re: The N orbital Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-11-10 15:58 -0800
    Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 02:34 -0800
      Re: The N orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-11 17:39 +0000
        Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 09:51 -0800
          Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 20:51 +0000
            Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 04:27 -0800
              Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 12:52 +0000
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 05:21 -0800
                Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 17:25 +0000
            Re: The N orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-12 18:03 +0000
              Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 22:40 -0800
                Re: The N orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-13 07:02 +0000
                Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 12:35 +0000
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 04:39 -0800
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 05:09 -0800
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 05:40 -0800
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 05:47 -0800
                Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 13:48 +0000
                Re: The N orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-13 14:59 +0000
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 07:02 -0800
                Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 16:36 +0000
                Re: The N orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-13 18:20 +0000
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 13:56 -0800
                Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 01:31 +0000
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 20:26 -0800
                Re: The N orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-14 06:55 +0000
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 03:56 -0800
                Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 13:30 +0000
                Re: The N orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-14 16:21 +0000
                Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 13:30 +0000
                Re: The N orbital benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 11:58 -0500
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 12:45 -0800
                Re: The N orbital benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 16:51 -0500
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 14:50 -0800
                Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 00:00 +0000
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 17:02 -0800
                Re: The N orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-14 06:12 +0000
                Re: The N orbital "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 17:21 -0800
                Re: The N orbital moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-13 15:14 +0000
                Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 13:48 +0000
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 06:35 -0800
                Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 16:29 +0000
                Re: The N orbital john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 09:20 -0800
                Re: The N orbital Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 01:31 +0000

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