Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > sci.physics > #710550

Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change

Show all headers | View raw

On 10/31/2018 12:08 PM, Edward Prochak wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 12:43:30 PM UTC-4, Sergio wrote:
>> On 10/31/2018 11:17 AM, Edward Prochak wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 11:13:16 PM UTC-4, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:41:52 -0700 (PDT), Edward Prochak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 12:03:50 AM UTC-4, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:24:03 -0400, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has 
>>>>>>> warned of disastrous consequences if current trends of global warming 
>>>>>>> are not reversed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-45949323
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cue Ed to find the science content in the FUD above.
>>>>>
>>>>> The science is pretty clear. Care to state a case for FUD?
>>>>
>>>> Okay:
>>>> Fear: worry is born of fear.
>>>> Uncertainty: "disastrous consequences ***if*** current trends"
>>>> Doubt: "warned" is not "predicted with scientific certainty" so there
>>>> is doubt whether one must devote resources to prepare for the
>>>> advertised brand of "disastrous consequences."
>>>
>>> Failed.  Your claim was the report was FUD. All you did was define it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It certainly seems FUD is the policy of climate change deniers.
>>>>
>>>> How so?
>>>>
>>>> And who here are "climate change deniers?"
>>>
>>> You can't tell?
>>> benj, sergio, ...
>>
>>
>> I do not deny nor approve,
> 
> 
> I apologise.
> 
>>        I want to see the raw evidence, the data,
>> there are huge holes in the data, averaging upon averaging, inadequate
>> computer models parameters adjusted for a result, ignoring much of the
>> effects of the largest greenouse gas-water vapor, and ignoring much of
>> the other greenhouse gasses, direct political interference, direct
>> political redirection, many hollywood movies to brainwash the public
>> without refering to the raw data, and a huge industry selling fear has
>> resulted for unemployed journalists.
>>
>> the analysis of the raw data is deeply flawed, take one point for every
>> square mile on the earths surface, and take the daily average of that
>> point for the past 500,000 years. Do we have that data set ? NO !
>> so what do we have ?
>>
>>
>> I want to see an error analysis.
>>
> 
> Maybe we can research this together.
> here is one resource:
> https://globalchange.mit.edu/publications/peer-reviewed
> 
> (though some here might call MIT too liberal.)
> 
> Ed
> 

very active subjects, which means it is still being researched, most
have stepped ahead of what raw surface data can support and then paywall.

need an answer to this question;

where is Sattilite measurement of surface temperature error analysis,
from 1985 to present.

I believe they measure in 2 or 3 IR bands, which have been manualy
corrolated to temperature readings on the surface (someone measured
serface temperature to help calibrate the satellites) However, water
vapor can obscure the IR in these bands, so the surface was not being
directly measured.

  AN error analysis is analysis of all sources of possable error for the
measurments and estimates  the distribution of error.


I have an Error analysis for GPS done by the Canadian Government, it is
about 900 pages.

I question sattilite here, as that is more consistant and known than
surface(air) field measurments, which are loaded with more error sources.

Back to sci.physics | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Why India needs to worry about climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 10:24 -0400
  Why India needs to worry about climate change sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-10-29 13:40 -0700
    Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-29 14:03 -0700
      Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-29 16:23 -0500
        Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 08:11 -0700
  Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 15:27 -0700
    Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-29 15:54 -0700
      Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-30 00:46 -0500
        Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 13:11 -0400
  Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-10-30 00:03 -0400
    Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-30 00:47 -0500
      Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 13:13 -0400
        Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-30 13:01 -0500
          Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-30 13:55 -0500
            Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 18:19 -0400
            Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Libtard <libtard@sandernistas.edu> - 2018-10-31 03:29 +0000
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-31 11:26 -0500
          Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-11-01 01:02 -0400
    Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 08:41 -0700
      Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-10-30 23:13 -0400
        Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 09:17 -0700
          Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 12:38 -0400
            Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 10:00 -0700
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-31 14:08 -0500
                Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 12:38 -0700
                Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-01 16:40 -0500
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 17:57 -0400
          Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-31 11:43 -0500
            Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 10:08 -0700
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-31 12:23 -0500
                Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 12:26 -0700
                Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-01 23:35 -0500
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 18:06 -0400
                Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 12:45 -0700
          Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-11-01 00:41 -0400
            Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 12:58 -0700
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-11-01 23:02 -0400

csiph-web