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Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change

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On 10/31/2018 11:17 AM, Edward Prochak wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 11:13:16 PM UTC-4, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:41:52 -0700 (PDT), Edward Prochak wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 12:03:50 AM UTC-4, Wally W. wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:24:03 -0400, kensi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has 
>>>>> warned of disastrous consequences if current trends of global warming 
>>>>> are not reversed:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-45949323
>>>>
>>>> Cue Ed to find the science content in the FUD above.
>>>
>>> The science is pretty clear. Care to state a case for FUD?
>>
>> Okay:
>> Fear: worry is born of fear.
>> Uncertainty: "disastrous consequences ***if*** current trends"
>> Doubt: "warned" is not "predicted with scientific certainty" so there
>> is doubt whether one must devote resources to prepare for the
>> advertised brand of "disastrous consequences."
> 
> Failed.  Your claim was the report was FUD. All you did was define it.
> 
>>
>>> It certainly seems FUD is the policy of climate change deniers.
>>
>> How so?
>>
>> And who here are "climate change deniers?"
> 
> You can't tell?
> benj, sergio, ...


I do not deny nor approve, I want to see the raw evidence, the data,
there are huge holes in the data, averaging upon averaging, inadequate
computer models parameters adjusted for a result, ignoring much of the
effects of the largest greenouse gas-water vapor, and ignoring much of
the other greenhouse gasses, direct political interference, direct
political redirection, many hollywood movies to brainwash the public
without refering to the raw data, and a huge industry selling fear has
resulted for unemployed journalists.

the analysis of the raw data is deeply flawed, take one point for every
square mile on the earths surface, and take the daily average of that
point for the past 500,000 years. Do we have that data set ? NO !
so what do we have ?


I want to see an error analysis.


> 
>>
>> <https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2015/04/07/asking-the-wrong-question/>
>> To ferociously insist – as politicians and activists do – that
>> man-made climate change is real is meaningless. That remark is worthy
>> of a child. It demonstrates no sophistication whatsoever.
>>
>> And let's quote a physicist from the same link:
>> "Man-made climate change certainly is real. There’s no doubt it’s
>> real. The question is: how much and whether it’s good or bad? Those
>> are quite separate questions. I would say it’s, on the whole, good.
>> Also, it’s not as large an effect as most people imagine."
>>
>> Note he used the word, "imagine."
> Why the mysterious "a physicist"? use his name, Freeman Dyson.
> 
> The point is well taken that there may be positive aspects.
> But even if in the end the global climate is better, that
> does not account for the disruptions and costs to many nations.
> 
>>
>> http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/02/07/the-great-delusion/#more-12926
>> "In centuries hence the global warming boogey man will be seen for
>> exactly what it is -- The Great Delusion.  Future generations will
>> wonder how so many people could have believed something so suicidally
>> ridiculous."
> 
> A fine example of the U in FUD. In one reference you cite the
> change is real and in the other citation labels it an illusion.
> You cannot claim both.
> 
> And an example of F with the "suicidally ridiculous".
> 
> Ed
> 

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Why India needs to worry about climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 10:24 -0400
  Why India needs to worry about climate change sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-10-29 13:40 -0700
    Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-29 14:03 -0700
      Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-29 16:23 -0500
        Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 08:11 -0700
  Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 15:27 -0700
    Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-29 15:54 -0700
      Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-30 00:46 -0500
        Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 13:11 -0400
  Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-10-30 00:03 -0400
    Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-30 00:47 -0500
      Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 13:13 -0400
        Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-30 13:01 -0500
          Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-30 13:55 -0500
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            Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Libtard <libtard@sandernistas.edu> - 2018-10-31 03:29 +0000
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-31 11:26 -0500
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    Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 08:41 -0700
      Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-10-30 23:13 -0400
        Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 09:17 -0700
          Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 12:38 -0400
            Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 10:00 -0700
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-31 14:08 -0500
                Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 12:38 -0700
                Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-01 16:40 -0500
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 17:57 -0400
          Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-31 11:43 -0500
            Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 10:08 -0700
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-31 12:23 -0500
                Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 12:26 -0700
                Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-01 23:35 -0500
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 18:06 -0400
                Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 12:45 -0700
          Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-11-01 00:41 -0400
            Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 12:58 -0700
              Re: Why India needs to worry about climate change Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-11-01 23:02 -0400

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