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Re: Carbon Dioxide Is Not Our Enemy -- the Greening of Earth

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Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> Wrote in message:
> On Tue, 8 May 2018 15:42:57 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Libor Striz wrote:
> 
Please, do proper quoting. Deletion of old stuff in the Android
 phone is inconvenient.

>>
>>My statement implicitly assumes that A change is bad, if you do
>> not know  it's consequences.
> 
> So if the consequences will be good, but you don't know they will be
> good, then the change is bad?

Would you put in a bet all your possession if you did know  the
 result ?
> 
> So Schrodinger's cat is necessarily dead because you don't know it is
> alive, right?

You would not put your beloved cat in that  box, would you ? 

>>----------------------------
>>> Is **all** climate change bad?
>>
>>Yes, every climate change is bad, but no climate change is  bad in
>> all its aspects.
>>----------------------------
> 
> So all climate stasis is good?

Living beings are adapted to stable  climate. Unstable one puts
 them  on the risk. 
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> 
> Or is it bad, but not bad in all its aspects?

Our world is not B/W. But some grey is darker than another.
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> 
> What a worthless, depressing dead-end of a religion is greenie-ism!

What a worthless illogical reasoning.
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>>> Has a climate never changed for the *better* ... anywhere in the
>>> world?
>>
>>Would killing one person ever change for better life anywhere in
>> the world ? Sometimes it would. But it does not make killing a
>> person a good thing.
> 
> You went too far off into a lala diversion there.

No, I have just pointed out the absurdness of your reading on an
 absurd analogy.

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> 
> The question was:  Has a climate never changed for the *better* ...
> anywhere in the world?
> 
Was already answered....

Has a poker player never  win money ? He won them mant times.
And he lost all money many times.

For now, observed climate changes bring much more troubles than gain.


>>----------------------------
> 
> So we should have had Homo neanderthalensis instead of you?

No, we should have chimps instead  of you, they are less dangerous
 to climate.
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> 
>>> If some climates change for the better and some change for the worse,
>>> is it a zero-sum game? 
>>
>>In era of human society, the rich ones abuse the change to get
>> more rich and poor will get more poor.
>>Would you call zero sum game ?
> 
> I asked for your opinion.

And I have given it.
> 
>>----------------------------

> 
> Why isn't forced climate stasis like Russian roulette?

Start thinking.
Change is pulling the trigger.
Stasis is a steady finger.

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>>Such change has many consequences and we are aware just about some
>> and only some we can predict.
> 
> Call it "predict" if you want, but the track record of
> climastrologists is lousy.
> 
Track record of people dishonesting opponents us just sad.

Track record of people having no climatology background is more lousy.
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>>If the "wash" would affect majority of population, would you
>> consider it good and healthy ?
> 
> Again, your wannabe point is meandering.

There is direct IT abalogy.
If you do not know what are you are doing, do not do it.
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> 
>>And if it would affect only your and neighbour countries, but
>> other would benefit from it to sell you supplies,
>>would you still consider it good and healthy ?
> 
> Still meandering.

Still not seeing consequences of your. ideas
> 
>>----------------------------
>>> 
>>> Is climate change "bad" only if it inconveniences humans?
>>
>>It is bad for its destroying  potential.
>>----------------------------
> 
> So is stasis bad for its destroying potential.

Are you still here ? If yes, then it refutes your statement.
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>>----------------------------


> 
> Evasive, diversionary, or something else or a combination of avodance
> techniques that miss the mark
 which is the goal of avoidance.

Yes, you try to avoid to see consequences of your ideas by any means.
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> Bottom line: greenie-ism is bullshit for masochists.

Rather, you have years long  ignorance record, as far as I observe.



-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

"Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
Miloš Forman


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  Re:Carbon Dioxide Is Not Our Enemy -- the Greening of Earth Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-08 08:04 +0200
    Re: Carbon Dioxide Is Not Our Enemy -- the Greening of Earth Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-08 08:06 -0400
      Re: Carbon Dioxide Is Not Our Enemy -- the Greening of Earth Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-08 15:42 +0200
        Re: Carbon Dioxide Is Not Our Enemy -- the Greening of Earth Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-09 01:00 -0400
          Re: Carbon Dioxide Is Not Our Enemy -- the Greening of Earth Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-09 07:53 +0200
            Re: Carbon Dioxide Is Not Our Enemy -- the Greening of Earth Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-09 07:55 -0400
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