Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft

From	"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sci.military.naval, can.politics, uk.politics.misc, rec.crafts.metalworking, sci.physics
Subject	Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft
Date	2018-04-24 14:42 -0700
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On 4/24/2018 1:50 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>   On 4/23/2018 11:17 PM, Juergen Nieveler wrote:
>> On 24.04.2018 07:17, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> Will taking off in an F16 soon be equal to taking off in an F22 wrt 
>>> the fact that they can both be seen!?
>>
>> I doubt it will happen "soon"... but it's a stern reminder that 
>> stealth technology is just a bet against the ingeniousness of physics 
>> grad students in the next 5 decades...
> 
> That has to be interesting to any pilot. They might find themselves up 
> against a shi% load of active SAM sites. Ahh, well, the SAMS that are 
> left after the initial barrages of HARM's and JSOW's are fired off by 
> coalition aircraft.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-88_HARM
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-154_Joint_Standoff_Weapon
> 
> The HARMS should target the SAMS, and the JSOW's should make the SAMS 
> fire off at projected phantom targets.

Love it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-154_Joint_Standoff_Weapon#/media/File:AGM-154_03.jpg

;^)

> 
> JSOW saturation can deplete a SAM of missiles and might force it to be 
> reloaded. HARM saturation should destroy its radar systems.
> 
> However, perhaps "in the future", the damn enemy has an experimental 
> weapon that is "theoretically" immune to HARM and JSOW, and can easily 
> see and target F-22's. It can also tell the difference between F-16, 
> F-15, F-22 and F-35 in real time and act accordingly... Oh SHI%! The 
> coalition must be trying to prevent the enemy from engaging within this 
> line of experimentation.
> 
> 
>> At least the F-22 is also a superb plane on top of being stealthy, so 
>> it could still fight on even terms with other fighters with the 
>> stealth advantage removed. 
> 
> Agreed. At least it has that handy Vulcan Cannon for a knife fight.
> 
> Imvvho, the pilots of an F-22 should not totally rely on hyper advanced 
> missile attack scenarios. I know they can fire on targets from a long 
> range via Phoenix, or medium range using AMRAAM. However, even the 
> newest versions of those missiles can fail to hit their targets...
> 
> 
>> The F-35 is a different topic...
> 
> Afaict, F-22's most likely can eat up F-35's for breakfast, lunch and 
> possibly dinner? Can the F-35 carry the newest Sidewinders? Does it 
> require an external pylon? If so, there goes stealth. Damn.
> 
> 
> Btw, I forgot about mentioning hardcore AAA fire:
> 
> https://youtu.be/XNucO0IZ0EU
> 
> Shit!

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Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft George <george.core@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-23 13:38 +0000
  Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2018-04-23 15:45 +0000
    Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-23 15:45 -0500
      Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-23 22:47 -0400
  Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-04-23 14:06 -0700
  Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 21:57 -0700
  Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-23 22:17 -0700
    Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Juergen Nieveler <juergen@nieveler.org> - 2018-04-24 08:17 +0200
      Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-24 13:50 -0700
        Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-24 14:42 -0700
          Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-25 10:21 -0500
            Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 11:05 -0700
              Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-25 14:06 -0500
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 13:34 -0700
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft jonathan <WriteInstead@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 19:02 -0400
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 22:55 -0700
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2018-04-27 18:56 +0100
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2018-04-27 18:37 +0100
              Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-25 15:29 -0700
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 21:29 -0700
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-26 00:42 -0500
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-26 22:25 -0700
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 02:58 -0700
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 13:52 -0700
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-01 17:26 -0500
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 17:57 -0700
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-01 19:43 -0700
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 07:33 -0700
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Juergen Nieveler <juergen@nieveler.org> - 2018-04-27 09:17 +0200
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 03:03 -0700
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Juergen Nieveler <juergen@nieveler.org> - 2018-04-27 14:27 +0200
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-27 11:27 -0500
                Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Peter Stickney <p_stickney@verizon.net> - 2018-04-27 16:50 -0400
        Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-24 14:52 -0700
      Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetemelo@ask.me> - 2018-04-29 10:16 +0200
  Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2018-04-24 11:56 +0200
    Re: Quantum radar will expose stealth aircraft Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-05-01 12:42 -0700

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