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On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 14:49:15 -0400, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:59:03 +0200, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
> Emeritus wrote:
>
>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>
>> vallor, in <news:dmbu0sFrg03U3@mid.individual.net> did thusly jump head
>> first into the wood chipper again:
>>
>>> On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 08:02:30 +0200, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
>>> Emeritus wrote:
>>
>>>> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Spankard), in
>>>> <news:1qsvfbl798o2nnif5v4oe6e8hijb14rtvn@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
>>>> first into the wood chipper again:
>>
>>>> Have you figured out that d/dx [sin(x)] = cos(x) yet, Mathematical
>>>> Moron? LOL
>>
>>> First point of order:
>>>
>>> FNVHe said he needed the value of "d" in a derivative.
>>
>> I was taunting Shiny Tinfoil Spankard to get him all worked up so I
>> could drop-kick him across Usenet more. It worked.
>>
>> <snicker>
>>
>>> Also, he said that all the derivative did was shift things 90 degrees
>>> out of phase.
>>
>> Do you deny that cosine leads sine by 90 degrees when graphed?
>>
>> <http://i.imgur.com/PbEFER9.png>
>
> Nice misdirection.  I never said the function didn't.
>
> I said that as far as _you_ know, that's all there is too the derivative.
>
> What's it FOR, FNVWe?

you might as well ask him about real-world applications of fourier  
transforms.

>
>
>>
>>> Conclusion:  FNVHe has never used the derivative of a curve in his
>>> life, nor does he know what they are used for.
>>
>> Conclusion: Fanfic.
>
> Okay then -- what's a derivative FOR, FNVHe?
>
>
>>> He may figure it out, though, by his response to this post.  He's quite
>>> intelligent, you know.
>>>
>>> In this way, the totality of human knowledge expands just that much
>>> more.
>>
>> Of course... and as much as I've schooled that moron Shiny Tinfoil
>> Spankard, that's dragged the left end of the bell curve upward by
>> several orders of magnitude. LOL
>
> Nice misdirection, but it's obvious you haven't figured it out.
>
> What's a derivative _FOR_, FNVHe?

i predict many fakeyKrickets...

>
>> Remember, he's the moron who didn't even know
>
> Three strikes, you're out.
>
> The derivative of a curve gives the slope of the line tangent to the
> curve at each point on the curve.
>
> This is literally some of the most basic first year Calculus knowledge.

we had trig/pre-calc in 7th grade where i'm from.

>
> You know, Math 1 -- the course you managed to avoid, if...
>
>>> He saw the LaTeX cargo, and he cargo-culted it into his post.  FNVHe
>>> might as well be a chinese room, eh?
>>
>> No. I've known of LaTeX since college. You do realize they use that in
>> college nowadays, right? Because they have computers now, not slide
>> rules and abacuses.
>
> Funny you should be lecturing me about math in college, when you clearly
> haven't taken first year (or, I'll bet, first semester) Calculus.

HAHAHA

> That doesn't mean you didn't go to college, of course -- it just means
> you didn't end up with any higher math.  There's nothing wrong with that,
> either, until you start putting on airs about your prowess with something
> you don't have a grasp of.

you totally forget that he *totally* predicted that sum of 2550.25 using  
his euler signwave sumptification equayshuns.

> However, take heart -- thanks to the Net, it's possible to learn as much
> Math as you'd like.  So go for it. :)

it looks as if i've managed to get him on desmos.com.

i wonder if he ever was able to figure out why the phasor calculations  
exactly matched my "k0oky" idea of subtracting functions to determine the  
voltage difference between two conductors?

> I've already told you what you get from a derivative -- now go figure out
> what you get from an integral.

then, he'll graph the RMS sinewave.

-- 
the never-ending saga of fakey's "lotus"...
https://web.archive.org/web/20160324102816/http://i.imgur.com/S1Xr5PO.png

-

"sines, sines, everywhere there's sines
blocking up the snickerTurds, breaking his mind"
http://imgur.com/a/yMFsu

-

FNVWe attempts to rewrite physics texts in Message-ID:  
<3dcad3dd0a0d39727506717506883c26@dizum.com>

">>let's not forget that mine also had the correct applied mathematics
>> equations unlike fakey the supposed know-it-all:
>>  phase A: 120*sin(2*pi*60*x)
>> phase B: 120*sin(2*pi*60*x+pi)
>>  voltage difference between phase A and phase B at any point x in time:
>> 120*sin(2*pi*60*x) - 120*sin(2*pi*60*x+pi) = 240*sin(2*pi*60*x)

Wrong, as has already been proven. What does it say below, you fecking  
*moron*?

"The _sum_ E(θ) ≡ E(a) + E(b) can be written thusly:""

it says that you don't even know how to correctly apply mathematics to  
real-world AC electricity, snickerTurds.  it says that you're in denial  
about the inversion of your AC legs.

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-10/single-phase-power-systems/
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/02170.png
"To mathematically calculate voltage between “hot” wires, we must subtract  
voltages, because their polarity marks show them to be opposed to each  
other:"
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/12112.png

http://www.samlexamerica.com/support/documents/WhitePaper-120240VACSingleSplitPhaseandMultiWireBranchCircuits.pdf

on page 2:

** NOTE: The phase of Hot Leg 2 (Phase B) is in the
  opposite direction - i.e., 180° apart from the phase
  of Hot Leg L1 (Phase A)

*COUGH*
SPNAK!!

-

i know a guy on the internet who will draw a triangular sine wave in ASCII  
art if you ask nicely.</GROUCHO MARX>
see: Message-ID: <4ba4a50aaaebc7fb8a348293c5cf9f13@dizum.com>

-

snickerTurds can't seem to refute the following:

- begin snickerSinewaveStew.cpp --
/*
HOW TO RUN: download arbitrary precision libraries from:

http://www.hvks.com/Numerical/arbitrary_precision.html

place those files in a directory and save this file as  
snickerSinewaveStew.cpp inside that same directory.

compiles with:

gcc -Wall -I. precisioncore.cpp snickerSinewaveStew.cpp -lstdc++

run with:

./a.out

enjoy the LULZ ;)

*/
#include <fprecision.h>
#include <iostream.h>

using namespace std;

int main(){

   //float_precision MIN=float_precision(0);
   //float_precision MAX=float_precision(0);

   float_precision STEP=float_precision(.0001);
   float_precision t=float_precision(0);    // time variable
   float_precision sum=float_precision(0);  // sum of SnickerTurd's  
ridiculous sinewave mess
   float_precision snickerPrediction=float_precision(2550.25);  //  
snickerTurd's erroneous k0oK-k'lame Sum
   float_precision PI;
   PI =_float_table(_PI,25);

   // this while loop will run forever, but snickers doesn't understand why
   while(sum < snickerPrediction){

     // fakey's Sinewave Stew(TM) see: MID:  
<db672705e57e4932eba3632562e0a941@dizum.com>
     sum = (float_precision(150) * float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(120)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(20.25) * float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(33)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(1400)* float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(150)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +(float_precision(20)*  
float_precision(sin(float_precision(5013)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(600)*float_precision(sin(float_precision(13)*float_precision(2)*PI*t)))  
+  
(float_precision(360)*float_precision(sin(float_precision(1209)*float_precision(2)*PI*t)));

     // perhaps show a few values larger than +2300 to educate teh  
snickerTurds
     if(sum>float_precision(2300)){
       cout << "t=" << t << " sum=" << sum << std::endl;
     }
     t = t+STEP;
   }
/*

Message-ID: <c8523e6d9c31e3282bbe581fa525a2a8@dizum.com>
"Oh, yeah... it's 2550.25 volts... so why does your graph not even
reach 2500 volts, given that eventually all the sinewaves will
constructively interfere (ie: *add* to each other) to *sum* to 2550.25
volts?"

Fakey, it doesn't reach 2500 volts because the summation of your sinewaves  
never reaches that.  They never reach their max values at the same time.   
That's how stupid you are.

Message-ID: <731d08dcc702b9a8a13077ffc201e91f@dizum.com>
"I most certainly *did* prove otherwise. It can't even arrive at the
correct sinewave summation voltage of 2550.25 volts"

Fakey, you only *proved* that you are too inept to graph the equations and  
notice a few things about the interactions of their frequencies when  
summed.

the next line of code is never executed, but snickers DEFINITELY can't  
figure out why it isn't and instead has a bunch of lame excuses while  
still having not produced a value for t where the sum=2550.25, as he has  
k0okily proklamed in many usenet messages that are archived FOREVER.

*/
   cout << "snickerTurds was right! the sum is " << sum << " at time t=" <<  
t <<endl;
}
- end snickerSinewaveStew.cpp --

-

Fakey irrationally demands a theme song to foam to:
"all I really want your pathetic pwned ass to do is write me a classic  
rock song as tribute to your Usenet Lord and Master..."  
<f4f9193fa7d28b760a9de681e61427e7@dizum.com>

-

Somewhere Abouts Round Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:25:03 -0500, Friendly  
Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

<snicker>

Fag. LOL
Idiot. LOL
Moron. LOL
Tranny. LOL
Libtard. LOL
Crackhead. LOL
GableTard. LOL
DildoRider. LOL
Bad Musician. LOL
Stick Figure. LOL
Terrible Liar. LOL
Sinewave Spammer. LOL
Outerfilthing Stalker. LOL
Talentless FrothMonkey. LOL
Math Challenged Halfwit. LOL
Klimate Katastrophe Kook. LOL
Defeated Tearful Spankard. LOL
Waster Of Time To Save $10. LOL
Worst Maker Of Sinewaves In The History Of Usenet. LOL

<the band strikes up a rousing version of "on top of old smokey">

on top of old snick-ers, all covered with Fag. LOL
is where my usenet lord and mas-ter
can go straight to hell*

*hell doesn't exist.  hope everybody is having a productive evening.

-

http://i.imgur.com/2tH6zVB.jpg

http://cafepress.com/kooktown

http://i.imgur.com/pnWqhSG.jpg

-

If my poasts are offensive to you, you can always block all From: headers  
containing "root@127.0.0.1", unless you are an idiot who would like to  
yammer about "morphing" and maybe try to lodge some frivolous complaints  
to my news provider, then please be sure to ignore this helpful  
information and have fun making an ass of yourself in public.  :)

if that route of silencing those horrid opinions of mine that you  
downloaded to your computer under duress doesn't work you can always try:  
http://i.imgur.com/jlsN9JX.png?2

-

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
The Gish Gallop is often used as an indirect argument from authority — as  
it appears to paint the galloper as an expert in a broad range of subjects  
or with an extensive knowledge of an individual one. Simultaneously it  
presents opponents (in spoken debates) or refuters (in written,  
Internet-based ones) as incompetent bumblers who didn't do their homework  
before the debate. Such emphasis on style over substance is the reason  
many scientists disdain public debates as a forum for disseminating  
opinions. - Page #1 from the Gospel of SnickerTurd

-

Coming soon!  To a newsgroup near you!:

$ perl fakeyBot.pl
FakeyBot>       I'm FakeyBot. What's your name so I can Google-stalk you,  
look you up on Radaris, and hurl invective and probably-illegal harrassing  
bile from behind an anonymous dizum account?  <snicker>
You>    Robert Michael Wolfe
FakeyBot>       Oh look, you're back again to polish my size 16 steel-toed  
boot with your colon and listen to me talk about bestiality and cocks,  
Robert. <snicker>
Robert> you talk about cocks a lot.
FakeyBot>       Oh, I talk about sex a lot?
Robert> gay sex, mostly...
FakeyBot>       Fag!

(just as useful as the original!)

-

snickers the wonderturd describes how he alerted lots of his kiddie pr0n  
friends to the ensuing FBI sting in message  
<b5e7da79a455d0c9227b1b50e25e7ea1@dizum.com>:
"That's easy enough to do... how do you think my crew uncovered the
largest CP ring using Tor and I2P, which we promptly turned over to
the FBI? I discovered a way to uncover the IP addresses the I2P users were  
using, and a way of tracking Eepsites back to their IP addresses, then we  
figured out that we could DDOS a Tor IP address and modify Tor headers  
while checking whether a Tor hidden service was still up, then using  
process of elimination to pinpoint the IP address hosting that hidden  
service. It's not rocket science.

_The I2P community got all up in arms when I discussed on their forum how  
I was doing it, and that it'd be a good way of cleaning up I2P so it can  
get on with being a platform to research anonymous communication... my  
distinct impression was that the "anonymity
research platform" story was just a cover story to allow pervs to
trade CP._  (NOTE: admits to participating in what he "suspected" was a  
kiddie pr0n network.)

That Silk Road 2.0 was taken offline in the ensuing FBI Operation
Onymous was just icing on the cake."

-

Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016

 

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                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-04-06 05:57 -0700
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Skeet <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-07 21:44 -0600
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-06 16:18 +0200
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-04-07 07:46 +0000
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-08 09:05 +0200
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-04-06 17:16 +0800
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-06 17:00 +0200
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-04-07 01:01 +0800
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-07 08:46 +0200
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Skeet <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-07 21:46 -0600
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-08 08:54 +0200
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Skeet <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-08 07:51 -0600
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-08 18:33 +0200
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-04-08 12:49 -0400
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-09 08:38 +0200
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-04-09 23:58 -0400
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-10 06:58 +0200
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-04-10 01:25 -0400
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-10 17:57 +0200
                Re: Faketards answer to everything he has to run away from. Skeet <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-10 10:18 -0600
                Re: Faketards answer to everything he has to run away from. Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-04-11 09:42 +0800
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-09 08:00 +0200
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-04-10 15:09 +0800
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-12 07:48 +0200
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-12 07:40 +0000
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-04-12 09:04 +0100
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-04-12 18:18 +0800
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-04-06 19:37 +0100
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-04-06 20:54 +0000
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-04-06 17:45 -0400
                Re: Our very own "chinese room" Skeet <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-07 21:46 -0600
                Re: Nutcase Dude Gets Schooled on Tornadogenesis Skeet <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-02 12:41 -0600
                Re: Nutcase Dude Gets Schooled on Tornadogenesis "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-04-02 12:02 -0400
      Re: Nutcase Dude Gets Schooled on Tornadogenesis pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-03-25 13:07 -0700
    Re: Nutcase Dude Gets Schooled on Tornadogenesis James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 11:05 -0700
      Re: Nutcase Dude Gets Schooled on Tornadogenesis Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-04-09 07:16 +0200
  Re: Nutcase Dude Gets Schooled on Tornadogenesis James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 18:21 -0700

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