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Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards.

From kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid>
Newsgroups sci.physics, alt.fan.cyberchicken, alt.checkmate
Subject Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards.
Date 2017-02-11 06:44 -0500
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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On 2/11/2017 6:26 AM, Kadaitcha Man wrote:

> BTW, you still have this problem, fuckhead:
>
> σxσp ≥ ħ/2
>
> You have no idea what it is, do you!

The Heisenberg uncertainty principle, in the specific case of the 
momentum/position couplet? Of course I do. The very question is insulting.

It's also not relevant to your k'lame of time-irreversibility of quantum 
physics, which you backpedaled on sneakily by burying an admission that 
quantum physics is CPT-symmetric in the midst of your mass of ko0KscRe3d.

Nonetheless, you did imply the k'lame you later walked back, when you 
reacted to the concept of a "thermodynamic arrow of time" by calling it 
quasi-classical, implying you thought there was a non-thermodynamic, 
quantum-level arrow of time -- likely arising from some variation on the 
tired, hackneyed old theme of "wavefunction collapse". Of course, in the 
absence of magical collapse fairies making all the other Everett 
branches go away, there is a quantum arrow of time, but it's 
thermodynamic: branch decoherence is thermodynamically irreversible, as 
once the number of particles in different states/positions gets past a 
handful getting the two branches to exchange any significant amplitude 
ever again is like unscrambling an egg. (To the point that the math for 
that is very similar to that for unscrambling an egg.)

P.S. Quit trying to block replies to this article by sneakily adding 
extra froups and then hiding them "below the fold" in my client's UI. If 
your arguments require you to use such tactics to escape rebuttal, then 
you deserve to lose.

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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Quasar redshift vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2017-02-06 14:45 +0000
  Re: Quasar redshift kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2017-02-06 10:35 -0500
    Re: Quasar redshift john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 07:50 -0800
    Re: Quasar redshift vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2017-02-06 16:28 +0000
      Re: Quasars are dying out because gravity itself is evaporating away. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-06 18:23 +0000
        Re: Entropy increases, eternally, without beginning or end. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-06 21:47 +0000
          Re: Entropy increases, eternally, without beginning or end. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 13:59 -0800
        Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 16:31 -0500
          Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2017-02-08 13:04 -0500
            Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 12:34 -0800
              Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-02-08 16:22 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:08 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 22:00 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-09 17:33 -0500
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 15:07 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-09 18:30 -0500
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-02-09 15:31 -0800
                whence clocks whould tickenn noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 19:58 -0800
                Re: whence clocks whould tickenn noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 00:35 -0800
            Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 17:14 -0800
              Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-09 21:05 -0500
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 08:54 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-11 17:54 -0500
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 00:58 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 03:25 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-13 16:04 -0500
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 03:26 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-13 16:05 -0500
            Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 18:11 +1100
              Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2017-02-10 23:35 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 18:55 +1100
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2017-02-11 00:11 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 19:46 +1100
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2017-02-11 00:50 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:07 +1100
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2017-02-11 01:12 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:15 +1100
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2017-02-11 01:19 -0800
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:26 +1100
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2017-02-11 01:32 -0800
              Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2017-02-11 05:06 -0500
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 22:26 +1100
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2017-02-11 06:44 -0500
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 00:11 +1100
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2017-02-11 20:54 +0000
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 09:45 +1100
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2017-02-11 23:17 +0000
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 15:43 +1100
                Re: Clocks tick _forward, not backwards. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2017-02-12 05:09 -0500
  Quasar redshift HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 08:56 -0800
    Quasar redshift john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 09:12 -0800
    Re: Quasar redshift benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-07 16:53 -0500
      Re: Quasar redshift noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 15:47 -0800
    Re: Quasar redshift Serg Io <invliad@invalid.com> - 2017-02-07 18:47 -0600
      The dopplerianS noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 19:20 -0800

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