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Re: Compression of random binary data

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On 7/11/2016 12:50 PM, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> What kind of statistic law or mathematical conjecture  or is it even
> a physical law is violated by compression of random binary data?

compression means smaller, smaller means you threw out bits, so you dont 
have the same sequence as when you started.  In some apps that is OK, 
like video, audio.

In most others it is not.

there is a code that throws out sequential 1's or o's and does 
compression on binary data, it is lossless.

>
> I only know that Shanon theorised it could not be done, but were
> there any proof?

got a URL for Shannon doing that ? I dont think he did.


> What is to say that you can not do it if the symbolic representation
> is richer than the symbolic represenatation of the dataset.

no gain there

>
> Isn't it a fact that the set of squareroots actually depict numbers
> in a shorter way than their actual representation.

nope, they introduce more error via truncation

>
> Now the inpretator or program must know the rules. And i have very
> good rules to make it happen.

COBOL interperture ?

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Compression of random binary data jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-07-11 10:50 -0700
  Re: Compression of random binary data xxein1@att.net - 2016-07-11 13:12 -0700
  Re: Compression of random binary data Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-11 15:42 -0500
  Re: Compression of random binary data Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-11 13:58 -0700
    Re: Compression of random binary data Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 23:12 +0200
  Re: Compression of random binary data "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 15:20 -0700
    Re: Compression of random binary data Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-11 21:29 -0500
  Re: Compression of random binary data Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 17:48 -0500
  Re: Compression of random binary data Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-07-11 23:39 +0000
    Re: One _never_ knows if data is truly random or not. Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-07-12 14:33 +0000
      Re: One _never_ knows if data is truly random or not. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 18:37 +0200
    Re: One _never_ knows if data is truly random or not. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-12 19:26 -0400
  Re: Compression of random binary data Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-12 15:20 +1000
    Re: Compression of random binary data Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-12 13:29 -0700
      Re: Compression of random binary data Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-07-13 16:29 +1000
  Re: Compression of random binary data Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-07-14 00:54 -0400

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