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Re: Just As Einstein Predicted?

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On 2/25/2016 1:57 AM, jay moseley wrote:
> Sam..
>> Nope, just the opposite. General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong.
>
>> Every test of General Relativity to date, shows that nature is in agreement.
>
> GR makes no predictions that can also not be made with by a
> classical model. For instance take preccession of mercury. GR
> takes the newtonian prediction, adds in the extra observed
> preccession , and claims this is a successful prediction.

Not what happened, Jay. What you're talking about is an empirical fit, 
not a theory. That's not what GR is.

> One could make the same successful "prediction" for classical.
> Take the Newtonian prediction, add in the extra preccession
> and call that a successful prediction for a classical model.

Again, you're proposing dropping classical mechanics as a theory and 
simply doing an empirical fit. Not even Newton would buy that.

> Or,...
> the supposed observed relativistic energies for protons in colliders.
> In fact no individual proton energies have ever been measured.

And that's bullshit.

> What actually happens is the total beam energy is worked out,
> and then the total amount of protons in the beam is calculated.

And that's bullshit.

> Assuming that each proton has a certain energy. This isnt a successful
> prediction. It is a successful fiddling of data by relativists to validate
> a pseudoscientific theology.
> And finally... the LIGO results. Notice that the graphs touted as
> verification of GR. Nothing of the sort. The actual observation is
> the spectral image showing the anomaly in frequency/time. A single
> blurred image that shows no similarity to the template.

No similarity to you is a five-sigma significance to physicists. If you 
don't know what five-sigma means, then you have some reading to do.

> Then researchers have used just some of the data *selectively*
> by researchers to match to a preferred relativistic template.
> In fact the data could be used to equally as well match to a neutron
> star or any binary merger. Or even a template of a single asymetric
> 'wave' evolving from longer to shorter wavelength.
>

I don't know what your bias is that you say scientists FUDGE data to 
support models they politically favor, but you're WAAAAAY out of line. 
Bordering on slander.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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