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On 1/22/2016 9:03 AM, john wrote:
> Odd
> Now we're GETTING somewhere!!
>
> You say that gravitons DO NOT travel in
> straight lines.

No, of course not. They never have. That is something that you made up 
on your own.

> Can you then explain how the gravitational
> impetus is STRAIGHT towards VERY
> distant bodies?

Sure, that's the weighted sum of gravitational quanta traveling all over 
the place.

You know this already, John. You KNOW light does not travel in straight 
lines. Diffraction proves that. Light bending around corners is an 
experimental reality. And DESPITE that, common sense and sensory 
experience tells us that light moves in straight lines, even though it 
DOESN'T. So then the question is, how can the two be reconciled?

A simple-minded person would go polar and just reject one or the other 
out of hand. "If light didn't travel in straight lines, you'd never have 
a sharp-edged shadow, so light going all over makes no sense." or 
conversely, "Diffraction proves light must be a wave, so any particle 
concept of light must be flat wrong, including photoelectric effect." 
Polar rejection is not helpful. Being simple-minded is not helpful.

Instead, there is work needed to see how light can give every appearance 
of traveling in straight lines in everyday life, even though we know it 
does not, and that RECONCILIATION is how you learn what light really does.

> Those gravitons must
> have a memory of where they came from.
> Explain how that can be. (I'm not saying they
> can't, and I have an explanation for that, but please,
> PLEASE, answer this once, Odd.)
>

I'm not going to try to answer that online, John, sorry. I just read a 
book that took 60 pages to explain that. But for the case of light, 
which is very much the same kind of thing, with photons not traveling in 
straight lines even though there is the experience that light SEEMS to 
travel in straight lines. This is EXACTLY what Feynman described in his 
short little book called QED, which is aimed at nonmathematical people 
like you. So if you want to learn how light can not travel in straight 
lines but seem to, READ THAT BOOK. Then you will also have a glimmer of 
how that works for gravitons too.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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