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Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics

From Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics
Followup-To sci.physics
Date 2025-07-20 19:32 -0700
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In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 1:26:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 23:35:46 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:
>>>
>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 22:44:33 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 12:27:20 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You made nothing "to bust inertia", you made an uninstrumented, low
>>>>>>>> speed pipe roller Arindam.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But he did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a body
>>>>>>> with internal force. No need for instruments to see the evident.
>>>>>>> As a biased imbecile you cannot agree, of course. Apes are like that.
>>>>>>> Pig headed.
>>>>>>> Ask Chat.
>>>>>>> Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WOOF woof woof-woof
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bertietaylor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arindam’s response does not substantiate his original claim and instead
>>>>>> relies on rhetorical distraction, abuse, and a misunderstanding of
>>>>>> physics.
>>>>>> Here's a breakdown:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Claim: "He did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a
>>>>>> body
>>>>>> with internal force."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a misstatement of physics.
>>>>>> According to Newtonian mechanics, internal forces cannot change the
>>>>>> velocity of the center of mass of an isolated system.
>>>>>
>>>>> For mechanical systems, yes.
>>>>> But science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust inertia.
>>>>> Outdated science cannot be used to stop new science.
>>>>>
>>>>> Woof woof woof-woof woof we dead dogs of Arindam know far better physics
>>>>> than Nobel yokels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bertietaylor
>>>>
>>>> Arindam’s reply is a mix of misdirection, false equivalence, and
>>>> theatrical
>>>> rhetoric. Here's a focused evaluation:
>>>>
>>>> 1. “For mechanical systems, yes.”
>>>> This partial concession acknowledges Newtonian mechanics, but only as a
>>>> pretext to pivot away. The original objection was not limited to
>>>> mechanical
>>>> systems—it concerned any isolated system, including those governed by
>>>> electrodynamics or field theories. Arindam evades that generality.
>>>>
>>>> 2. “But science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust
>>>> inertia.”
>>>> This is vague and unsubstantiated. Electromagnetic forces, like
>>>> mechanical
>>>> ones, obey conservation laws. No known physical interaction—electrical,
>>>> magnetic, or otherwise—can change the center of mass velocity of an
>>>> isolated system via internal forces alone. The reference to
>>>> "electricity"
>>>> seems meant to dazzle rather than explain.
>>>>
>>>> 3. “Outdated science cannot be used to stop new science.”
>>>> This is a rhetorical move, not a rebuttal. Calling established physics
>>>> “outdated” doesn’t invalidate it—especially without evidence. Scientific
>>>> progress builds upon tested foundations; dismissing them wholesale
>>>> requires
>>>> rigorous demonstration, which Arindam does not provide.
>>>>
>>>> 4. “Woof woof…” mocking tone
>>>> The dog metaphor and mockery of “Nobel yokels” are meant to provoke and
>>>> distract rather than clarify. This performative posture replaces
>>>> argument
>>>> with attitude.
>>>>
>>>> Summary:
>>>> Arindam’s response fails to address the core objection: internal forces
>>>> cannot alter the motion of the center of mass of an isolated system. His
>>>> appeal to “electricity” is hand-waving without substance. His tone
>>>> attempts
>>>> to undermine critics with derision, not logic. The reply reinforces the
>>>> impression of physics-as-theater rather than physics-as-reasoned
>>>> inquiry.
>>>
>>> Point is, video evidence shows that Arindam moved the centre of mass of
>>> a body without external force thus busting inertia.
>>>
>>> Anyone can see that.
>>
>> No Arindam, only you see that. The rest of the world sees reality.
> 
> The rest of the world follows what esteemed institutions say but not
> being completely robotic yet they do give scope for new and challenging
> ideas. So Arindam is free still to write what he thinks correct and do
> what he can.

No, the rest of the world follows what has been proven time and again by
independantly verified experiments.

Yes, you are free to write what you think, but what you think is
actually delusional nonsense.

What you can actually do that might be of some help is to get help for
your delusions.

> 
> WOOF woof woof-woof woof

And be sure to mention that you bark like a dog.

> 
> Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs and his sole supporters)
>>
> 
> --

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  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-04 06:13 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-04 06:08 -0700
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 11:22 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-06 07:39 +0000
  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-04 19:46 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-04 21:41 +0000
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-04 15:19 -0700
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 23:28 +0000
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-13 16:45 -0700
            Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-14 01:25 +0000
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-13 19:02 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-14 14:13 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-14 07:39 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 00:51 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-14 18:06 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 07:53 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 05:27 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 22:28 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 15:44 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 23:01 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 16:35 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 00:40 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 18:26 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 01:39 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 19:32 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-21 07:31 +0200
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-14 22:09 +0200
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                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 16:47 -0700
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                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-16 22:25 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-17 02:02 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 19:49 -0700
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                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-18 15:38 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 00:29 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-18 18:31 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 03:51 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-19 06:21 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-19 15:53 +0200
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                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-19 21:29 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-19 21:29 +0200
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                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 12:39 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 06:46 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 22:16 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 17:57 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 00:13 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 18:34 -0700
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                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 05:33 -0700
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                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 18:16 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-17 01:53 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-18 22:21 +0200
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                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-21 22:38 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-24 20:21 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-25 21:38 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 00:51 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 18:45 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 01:48 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-22 21:59 +0200
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-05 19:32 +0000
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-05 19:44 +0000
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-11 03:12 +0000
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-10 20:56 -0700
            Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-12 08:01 +0000
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 06:34 -0700
            Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-12 22:36 +0000
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 17:42 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 01:00 +0000
  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 00:29 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 18:11 -0700
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 01:56 +0000
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 21:06 -0700
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 06:01 +0000
  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 00:36 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 18:04 -0700
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 06:31 +0000
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-21 05:32 -0700
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-21 15:09 +0200

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