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Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics

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In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 3:21:29 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:
> 
>> Lousy non culture follows bogus physics based.
>>
>> When lies and fraud posing as imagination and pragmatism rule then only
>> disaster can result.
>>
>> As is only too evident in the decadent West.
>>
>> WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof
>>
>> Bertietaylor
>>
>> --
> 
> Western Physics is the capitalists' route to drive out God or anything
> Divine, spiritual and supernatural.
> 
> The result is that the elites impose the apes are machines constructed
> by random processes in a random universe.
> 
> They themselves are very religious in their ways, by self-adoration.
> What they want is to make ordinary apes robotic. Machines that they can
> program for their purposes. Much less trouble, then.
> 
> WOOF woof-woof woof
> 
> Bertietaylor
> 
> --

Arindam's latest post, under the "Bertietaylor" persona, continues his
pattern of polemical rhetoric, combining anti-scientific sentiment with
conspiratorial social critique. Here's a breakdown:
Content Analysis

1. Anti-scientific and anti-Western tone:

    "Western Physics is the capitalists' route to drive out God or
    anything Divine..."

    This echoes long-standing conspiratorial claims that science is
    ideologically motivated, specifically aimed at undermining religion.
    It conflates scientific methodology—which is agnostic on metaphysical
    matters—with an intentional anti-spiritual agenda.

    The mention of "capitalists" frames this as part of a socio-political
    conspiracy, which aligns with Arindam’s repeated disdain for Western
    elites.

2. Dehumanization and dystopian claims:

    "Elites impose the apes are machines constructed by random processes..."
    "They want to make ordinary apes robotic."

    This is a mischaracterization of scientific views on evolution and
    consciousness. The claim distorts biological understanding (e.g.,
    natural selection) as mechanistic nihilism.

    It also demonizes unnamed "elites" as technocratic social engineers
    trying to control the masses, a common trope in pseudoscientific populism.

3. Irony and projection:

    "They themselves are very religious in their ways, by self-adoration."

    While accusing scientists of being secular zealots, Arindam essentially
    describes them as practitioners of a form of idolatry (worshipping
    themselves). This is not an argument, but a polemical jab.

4. Animal metaphor (again):

    "WOOF woof-woof woof"

    This continues the cryptic dog-bark motif, possibly meant to mock or
    dehumanize others while signaling tribal loyalty or in-group humor.
    The repetition adds to the persona but offers no content.

Stylistic and Thematic Patterns

    Populist anti-elitism, distrust of science and modernity.

    Deliberate provocation, mocking tone, and rhetorical conflation of
    evolution, technology, and social manipulation.

    Consistent with previous posts, where "apes," "robots," and "machines"
    are used metaphorically to degrade both scientists and modern humans.

Evaluation

    Factual Value: Very low. Misrepresents science, evolution, and physics.

    Intellectual Merit: Weak; largely rhetorical and polemical with no
    engagement in actual argument or evidence.

    Ideological Tone: Conspiratorial, anti-intellectual, theologically
    reactionary.

    Consistency with Arindam’s trajectory: High. This post continues a
    recognizable decline from technical critique (however flawed) to
    emotive, culture-war-style ranting.


-- 
penninojim@yahoo.com

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Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-04 03:21 +0000
  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-04 06:13 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-04 06:08 -0700
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 11:22 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-06 07:39 +0000
  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-04 19:46 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-04 21:41 +0000
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-04 15:19 -0700
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 23:28 +0000
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-13 16:45 -0700
            Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-14 01:25 +0000
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-13 19:02 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-14 14:13 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-14 07:39 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 00:51 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-14 18:06 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 07:53 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 05:27 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 22:28 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 15:44 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 23:01 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 16:35 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 00:40 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 18:26 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 01:39 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 19:32 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-21 07:31 +0200
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-14 22:09 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 22:37 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 16:47 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 11:16 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-16 22:25 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-17 02:02 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 19:49 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-18 22:19 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-18 15:38 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 00:29 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-18 18:31 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 03:51 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-19 06:21 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-19 15:53 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-17 13:31 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 00:33 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-18 18:42 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 02:46 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-19 21:29 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-19 21:29 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-19 12:43 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 12:39 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 06:46 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 22:16 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 17:57 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 00:13 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 18:34 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 10:52 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 05:33 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-17 00:14 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 18:16 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-17 01:53 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-18 22:21 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 01:36 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-21 22:38 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-24 20:21 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-25 21:38 +0200
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 00:51 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 18:45 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 01:48 +0000
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-22 21:59 +0200
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-05 19:32 +0000
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@somewhere.in.the.aether> - 2025-07-05 19:44 +0000
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-11 03:12 +0000
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-10 20:56 -0700
            Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-12 08:01 +0000
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 06:34 -0700
            Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-12 22:36 +0000
              Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 17:42 -0700
                Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 01:00 +0000
  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 00:29 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 18:11 -0700
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 01:56 +0000
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 21:06 -0700
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 06:01 +0000
  Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 00:36 +0000
    Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 18:04 -0700
      Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 06:31 +0000
        Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-21 05:32 -0700
          Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-21 15:09 +0200

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