Re: Climate change could make female orgasms rare and cause human extinction.

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	talk.politics.guns, sci.physics, alt.checkmate
Subject	Re: Climate change could make female orgasms rare and cause human extinction.
Date	2019-03-02 19:39 -0700
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On 3/2/19 3:27 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 13:50:06 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> <courteously trimmed>
> 
>> At least you are more open about your special entitlement views than
>> most conservatives. I back equal rights, as do most liberals.
> 
> Equal rights attempt to confer upon the less-well endowed equal abilities.

Like helping people get glasses or hearing aids?

> It doesn't work because, just like criminals don't register their guns,
> the more-well endowed male will not give up their superior natural
> endowments in order to lower themselves to a female level that needs
> legislated equal rights. If females were, indeed, equal they would grab
> those rights for themselves. They would not need them legislated.

And you went into la-la land where you are at least open about disdain 
for equal rights.

>> Keep in mind the main differences between liberal and conservative world
>> views:
>>
>> * Liberals: support equal rights and environmental protection, with a
>> focus on investing in the future and building a stronger tie between
>> hard work / productivity and financial reward.
> 
> Wrong. 

So show examples instead of just making accusations. I can show examples 
of what I say. It is trivial.

> Liberals want to weaken everybody except a ruling class
> down to a subsistence-level existence. They want to raise taxes
> on productivity so as to squelch it. The only financial reward there
> is enjoyed by the ruling class at the expense of the enslaved class.
> 
>> Additionally, Liberals want evidence-based regulation and oversight to
>> help ensure clean air and water, safe food, and human rights.
> 
> No, liberals don't care about evidence because they just make it
> up as they go along to fit their ruling class dictates.

And again you just make up attacks. To be fair there are individual 
regulations which are absurd... but you attribute to "liberals" 
something you cannot back.

>> This
>> includes following the scientific evidence about climate change and food
>> safety, and things like setting levels of lead and other harmful
>> substances allowed, and even to wanting to do research to reduce the
>> harm of tools such as cars and guns and swimming pools. This is a form
>> of control, and conservatives are right to note that. And they are right
>> to note that sometimes these measures are taken too far.
> 
> Taken too far and based upon bogus scientific evidence is right.

Your rejection of science does not make it "bogus". Your ignorance 
CANNOT weaken the actual science. I like that.

> Liberals want a free ride but they are too stupid to understand
> there is no free ride. They have Venezuela as a prime example
> of how socialism fails every time it's tried due to ruling class
> greed, mismanagement and lust for power but they ignore the
> failures. Liberals are stupid beyond belief and even more gullible.

More baseless accusations and claims. You do this because you know to be 
honest would be to change your view.

>> * Conservative: support special entitlements for whites, Christians,
>> males, heterosexuals, and the wealthy, with a focus on redistributing
>> wealth to the very richest in the nation with the idea that this will
>> somehow help others.
> 
> No, conservatives support keeping the fruits of their labor.

They actively work against this. I can show many examples of "corporate 
socialism" which is largely what conservatives back.

“Socialism” 101

SOCIALISM: The government owns most major industries and there is little 
if any private property. This system allows for little personal freedom 
and is closely aligned with Authoritarianism (rule by authority).

CORPORATE SOCIALISM: The government works largely for the benefit of 
wealthy corporations and the rich. Most major industries are privately 
owned (Capitalism), but their costs and risks are heavily subsidized 
through lower taxes, direct government subsidies, leniency by the 
justice system, and more. With Corporate Socialism the wealthy become 
even wealthier at the expense of the lower classes, and the split 
between productivity and financial gain is weakened.  This system is 
closely aligned with Plutocracy (rule by the wealthy).

DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM: This government works largely for the citizens as 
a whole, investing in infrastructure and the people. Most major 
industries are privately owned (Capitalism), but they get few government 
handouts and are generally held accountable for their own risks and 
costs. With this system the middle class does better, poverty decreases, 
and the environment suffers less harm. This system is closely aligned 
with Democracy (rule of the people).

> Conservative
> know that their time is a human right and their being taxed on their
> productivity to prop up the lazy and stupid and diseased is in violation
> of their GOD GIVEN rights to own their time. Conservatives have a
> proven record of greater charitable giving than liberals - much greater
> as conservatives morals call upon them the concept of Christian tithing.

And here you try to tie it to being Christian, even though religion does 
not make people more moral.

https://www.livescience.com/47799-morality-religion-political-beliefs.html
-----
Religion Doesn't Make People More Moral, Study Finds

The moral high ground seems to be a crowded place. A new study suggests 
that religious people aren't more likely to do good than their 
nonreligious counterparts. And while they may vehemently disagree with 
one another at times, liberals and conservatives also tend to be on par 
when it comes to behaving morally.
-----

>> Conservatives want regulation and oversight based on their own feelings
>> and what they believe has historically existed (which is often
>> incorrect), or even just based on their own religion. This includes
>> controlling which consenting adults can marry each other, what a woman
>> can do with her own body, and even insisting the government gets to
>> define YOUR gender. They also work to create regulations on voting to
>> limit who can vote, for if the people truly get a voice they know their
>> ideas are less likely to be accepted. Liberals are right to call
>> conservatives out on this also being a form of control and, I think, a
>> less defensible one.
> 
> No, you have it all wrong.

And yet I give many examples.

> Conservatives don't give a hoot what others
> do as longs as it doesn't interfere with our God-given human rights.

You have no issue if someone is gay. If someone is transgender? If 
someone wants an abortions? If someone wants their religion given equal 
representation (say adding "In the Flying Spaghetti Monster We Trust" on 
money, or having a version of the pledge that says "One Nation Under 
Satan"). Are YOU really OK with these things?

I bet not, at least with most. Remember, the conservative worldview is 
about special entitlements.

> Leave us alone, let us produce uninhibited and untaxed and unregulated
> and there will naturally be such abundance that life will be better for
> all including indolent and stupid liberals.

This is not at all what the Republican party stands for. Not even close. 
They back corporate socialism.


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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
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