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Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

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On 6/10/18 9:14 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> You picked some nits, were called out, then snipped those parts of the
>> discussion...
> No, you're the one doing the snipping.
> 
>> ... Then when called out you claim I "capitulated", showing
>> projection and dishonesty on your part.
> The dishonesty is yours. You lie when cornered.
> 
>> Fair enough: you have shown you are not interested in an honest
>> conversation and cannot defend your views. That is an issue for you to
>> deal with, not me.
> I defended my views and blew yours out of the water.
> 
>> And, predictably, you will reply with insults and accusations and NOT
>> responding to those points in an honest way....
> I responded to all of your red herrings, showing you the liar.
> 
>> ... If you ever do try the conversation will be so buried that neither of us
>> remember the details.
> That's what you're hoping for.
> 
>> It is not like your nonsense is clever or creative. :)
> It's not like yours is honest or honorable.
> 
> p.s. You should slink away now.
> 
> 
You did as predicted... and my points stand, unrefuted. Fair enough.

* Every free person is free to be armed. This is not true: free 
ex-felons often are denied arms. And of course this did not apply to 
women and others.

* The idea of having the right to arms included the "entire populace" 
which is just silly. Women and blacks, for example, were often denied 
not just arms but pretty much ANY property, the right to vote, and much 
more. It is an extremely ignorant thing to claim about our history as a 
country.

* It denies ANY gun laws work but we know that is complete and utter 
poppycock. Heck, the US is one of the few countries to have the problems 
with guns that it does, and it is in part because of the laws, and I 
gave references to laws that worked and studies showing groups of laws 
working. Also, the NRA and their supporters work to stop research, so 
they know this claim of theirs is a lie.

* He claimed to back research even as he worked against doing so.

* He looked to the NRA, a group that benefits from gun violence and 
other harm, as experts in the area of gun laws that would reduce gun 
violence and other harm.

* He spoke of other groups who sought to help the public defend 
themselves from the NRA and their backers as being against rights. That 
is absurd.


Those points are solid enough where the best you could do was pick nits 
(such as pointing to examples of poor white males having guns) and 
snipped (esp. with the third point where your snipping was extensive).

You will now insist that you have refuted those point... even though you 
have not (and had you, you would just copy and paste and NOT snip the 
points being made).

You have no interest in an honest discussion and focus on your emotion 
over evidence.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 15:46 -0700
  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 16:51 -0700
    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 19:44 -0700
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 19:50 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 21:14 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 21:21 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-11 06:39 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 06:48 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-11 07:10 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 11:04 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 11:03 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. will <willscranton@butchersboulevard.commypanprofile> - 2018-06-11 14:22 +0000

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