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Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

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In news:fo66c3Fcd58U1@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/10/18 7:44 PM, max headroom wrote:

[big snit snip]

> ...
>>> My comments before your snipping:

>>> Ah, so you just denied the evidence. OK.

>>> But speaking of history, notice how I talked about how the document YOU
>>> pointed to had SIGNIFICANT errors in its historical claims (and others).
>>> Those include:

>>> * Every free person is free to be armed. This is not true: free
>>> ex-felons often are denied arms.

>>> * The idea of having the right to arms included the "entire populace"
>>> which is just silly. Women and blacks, for example, were often denied
>>> not just arms but pretty much ANY property, the right to vote, and much
>>> more. It is an extremely ignorant thing to claim about our history as a
>>> country.

>>> [You responded by showing how some poor white males had access to
>>> guns... completely disingenuous of you]

>>> * It denies ANY gun laws work but we know that is complete and utter
>>> poppycock. Heck, the US is one of the few countries to have the problems
>>> with guns that it does, and it is in part because of the laws, and I
>>> gave references to laws that worked and studies showing groups of laws
>>> working. Also, the NRA and their supporters work to stop research, so
>>> they know this claim of theirs is a lie.

>>> * He claimed to back research even as he worked against doing so.

>>> * He looked to the NRA, a group that benefits from gun violence and
>>> other harm, as experts in the area of gun laws that would reduce gun
>>> violence and other harm.

>>> * He spoke of other groups who sought to help the public defend
>>> themselves from the NRA and their backers as being against rights. That
>>> is absurd.

>>> [You jumped in claiming I did not read far enough into the document to
>>> see he had done this even though I noted it! This was clearly dishonest
>>> of you.]

>>> Those are simple facts... from the document you brought up and suggested
>>> I look at.

>>> Maybe you should look at it. :)

>> Asked, and answered.

>> Your capitulation is acknowledged.

> You picked some nits, were called out, then snipped those parts of the
> discussion...

No, you're the one doing the snipping.

> ... Then when called out you claim I "capitulated", showing
> projection and dishonesty on your part.

The dishonesty is yours. You lie when cornered.

> Fair enough: you have shown you are not interested in an honest
> conversation and cannot defend your views. That is an issue for you to
> deal with, not me.

I defended my views and blew yours out of the water.

> And, predictably, you will reply with insults and accusations and NOT
> responding to those points in an honest way....

I responded to all of your red herrings, showing you the liar.

> ... If you ever do try the conversation will be so buried that neither of us 
> remember the details.

That's what you're hoping for.

> It is not like your nonsense is clever or creative. :)

It's not like yours is honest or honorable.

p.s. You should slink away now. 

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Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 15:46 -0700
  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 16:51 -0700
    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 19:44 -0700
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 19:50 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 21:14 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 21:21 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-11 06:39 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 06:48 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-11 07:10 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 11:04 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 12:12 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 11:03 -0700

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