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Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, alt.checkmate, talk.politics.guns
Subject Re: Slaughtering concert goers.
Date 2018-06-10 14:54 -0700
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On 6/10/18 2:33 PM, max headroom wrote:
...
>> You find historical fact to be "shoddy and disputable".
> 
> No, I found your sources shoddy and disputable.

Ah, so you just denied the evidence. OK.

But speaking of history, notice how I talked about how the document YOU 
pointed to had SIGNIFICANT errors in its historical claims (and others). 
Those include:

* Every free person is free to be armed. This is not true: free 
ex-felons often are denied arms.

* The idea of having the right to arms included the "entire populace" 
which is just silly. Women and blacks, for example, were often denied 
not just arms but pretty much ANY property, the right to vote, and much 
more. It is an extremely ignorant thing to claim about our history as a 
country.

[You responded by showing how some poor white males had access to 
guns... completely disingenuous of you]

* It denies ANY gun laws work but we know that is complete and utter 
poppycock. Heck, the US is one of the few countries to have the problems 
with guns that it does, and it is in part because of the laws, and I 
gave references to laws that worked and studies showing groups of laws 
working. Also, the NRA and their supporters work to stop research, so 
they know this claim of theirs is a lie.

* He claimed to back research even as he worked against doing so.

* He looked to the NRA, a group that benefits from gun violence and 
other harm, as experts in the area of gun laws that would reduce gun 
violence and other harm.

* He spoke of other groups who sought to help the public defend 
themselves from the NRA and their backers as being against rights. That 
is absurd.

[You jumped in claiming I did not read far enough into the document to 
see he had done this even though I noted it! This was clearly dishonest 
of you.]

Those are simple facts... from the document you brought up and suggested 
I look at.

Maybe you should look at it. :)



>> I think that sums it up well!
> 
> As do I.
> 
>>>> As far as the 1982 report, I have not read it all. I doubt you have
>>>> either: <http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/rkba.htm>. Looking at it, I see
>>>> Orrin G. Hatch starts the document and speaks of how every free
>>>> person should be armed. Do you agree with this? Do you think
>>>> convicted felons, upon release from prison and now free, should be armed?...
> 
>>> Depends on the crime. Financial crimes, for instance, seldom involve
>>> violence.
> 
>> Often many people are harmed by it... but that is a discussion for
>> another day. :)
> 
>>>> ...  Do you agree that at the start of the country:
>>>> -----
>>>> that when the Congress and the people spoke of a "militia", they had
>>>> reference to the traditional concept of the entire populace capable
>>>> of bearing arms...
>>>> -----
>>>> The entire populace? Blacks? Non-land-owning men? Women? No. It was
>>>> a tiny percent of the population... the "elite" who could be trusted
>>>> to control others....
> 
>>> How do you jump to this conclusion? Is that all you read?
> 
>> How did I jump to the conclusion that not all were welcome to have arms?
>> Sigh.
> 
> Exactly. If you can't explain yourself, just say so.
> 
>> And then you go off topic. You are just pushing off topic questions to
>> avoid responding. How amazing of you!
> 
> Oh, the irony! You accuse me of your actions!
> 
>>> "Richard Henry Lee, in his widely read pamphlet 'Letters from the Federal Farmer
>>> to the Republican' worried that the people might be disarmed 'by modeling
>>> the militia. Should one fifth or one eighth part of the people capable of bearing
>>> arms be made into a select militia, as has been proposed, and those the young and
>>> ardent parts of the community, possessed of little or no property, the former will
>>> answer all the purposes of an army, while the latter will be defenseless.' He
>>> proposed that 'the Constitution ought to secure a genuine, and guard against a
>>> select militia,'  adding that 'to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole
>>> body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young,
>>> how to use them.'
> 
>> Is this what makes you think women and blacks were allowed to have guns?
> 
> Yup. "[T]he whole body of the people...."
> 
>>> "The suspicion of select militia units expressed in these passages is a clear
>>> indication that the framers of the Constitution did not seek to guarantee a State
>>> right to maintain formed groups similar to the National Guard, but rather to
>>> protect the right of individual citizens to keep and bear arms. Lee, in
>>> particular, sat in the Senate which approved the Bill of Rights. He would hardly
>>> have meant the second amendment to apply only to the select militias he so feared
>>> and disliked.
> 
>> Is this what makes you think women and blacks were allowed to have guns?
> 
> Yup. "[T]he whole body of the people...."
> 
>>> "Other figures of the period were of like mind. In the Virginia convention, George
>>> Mason, drafter of the Virginia Bill of Rights, accused the British of having
>>> plotted 'to disarm the people - that was the best and most effective way to
>>> enslave them', while Patrick Henry observed that, 'The great object is that every
>>> man be armed' and 'everyone who is able may have a gun....
> 
>>> "A pamphlet written by Noah Webster, aimed at swaying Pennsylvania toward
>>> ratification, observed.
> 
>>> "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in
>>> almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust
>>> laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute
>>> a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense,
>>> raised in the United States."
> 
>> And that makes you think blacks and women had the right to arms?
> 
> Yup. "[T]he whole body of the people...."
> 
>>>> ... Is that really something you can support? But more importantly do you trust a
>>>> document which gets something so fundamental to the start of our country so
>>>> profoundly wrong?
> 
>>> How can I trust a someone who gets something so fundamental to the start of our
>>> country so profoundly wrong?
> 
>> So no answer from you. Quite telling.
> 
> Then let me rephrase it-- I can't trust a someone who gets something so fundamental
> to the start of
> our country so  profoundly wrong.
> 
>> Simple fact: women and blacks, except in rare cases, were not allowed to
>> have guns. The idea that this right was for "everyone" is absurd. It was
>> HEAVILY limited. It most certainly was not the "entire populace". That
>> is a gross twisting of historic fact.
> 
> Then you should have no trouble proving that.
> 
>>>> And it says:
>>>> -----
>>>> If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation
>>>> should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of
>>>> crime
>>>> rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a
>>>> century and a half of trying
>>>> -----
> 
>>>> But we have many examples of gun laws working. This document
>>>> references
>>>> some: https://www.icloud.com/pages/0XiBH5dWXdOBFSedm4D6Lw8mQ
> 
>>>> So it is wrong there, too....
> 
>>> Cool. Means we don't need any more.
> 
>> That is like saying we should have stopped improving cars and roads when
>> they death rates of vehicular accidents was reduced. We did not... we
>> KEPT and KEEP working on improvements.
> 
> Oh, I see: you want to see improvements in the mechanisms. Well, me too.
> 
>> Your claim that the improvement we have seen (gun deaths have gone
>> done... though they are back up over the last year or so) means we
>> should stop working to improve a clearly bad situation is not rational.
> 
> I made no such claim. Quit thinking with your ovaries.
> 
>> The right to life matters!
> 
>>> But I notice you like to cite a lot of medical sources and not law
>>> or criminology studies.
> 
>> The claim was these laws do not work. Evidence contradicts that... at
>> least SOME of these laws do. That was my point. It is a correct point.
> 
> I made no such claim. Quit thinking with your ovaries.
> 
>>> Try a change of pace:
> 
>>> http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0011128708321321
> 
>>> According to this description, (found at
>>> https://journalistsresource.org/studies/government/criminal-justice/effectiveness-policies-programs-reduce-firearm-violence-meta-analysis)
>>> - -
> 
>>> [A] 2012 study from Arizona State University and the University of Cincinnati
>>> published in Crime and Delinquency, "The Effectiveness of Policies and Programs
>>> That Attempt to Reduce Firearm Violence: A Meta-Analysis," reviewed the
>>> effectiveness of dozens of policies designed to reduce gun violence in the United
>>> States. The researchers examined 29 rigorous studies between 1983 and 2005 that
>>> assessed the effectiveness of four major areas of gun violence interventions:
>>> information, training, and storage campaigns; gun buy-back programs; gun laws; and
>>> law enforcement campaigns.
> 
>>> Key study findings include:
> 
>>>     a.. "The studies included in this analysis, on average, indicated a weak to
>>> moderate impact of these policies and programs on gun violence."
>>>     b.. While all interventions reduced gun crime, gun buy-back programs and
>>> stricter gun laws were found to be only marginally effective. Law enforcement
>>> efforts, however, were found to significantly reduce gun-related crimes.
>>>     c.. Of these legal interventions, probation strategies - increased contact with
>>> police, probation officers and social workers - proved most effective at
>>> curtailing gun violence; policing strategies and community programs were
>>> moderately effective, while "prosecutorial strategies" - harsher sentences and
>>> restricted bail opportunities - showed the least promise.
>>>     d.. Mandatory firearms waiting periods and background checks were shown to have
>>> no statistical effects on gun crimes, while bans on specific weapons were
>>> moderately effective.
>>>     e.. "The effect of safe-storage laws show they have been ineffective at
>>> reducing gun crime. The [studies] examined . found that, if anything, safe storage
>>> laws work to increase crime."
> 
>>> The researchers conclude that "law enforcement programs are clearly more effective
>>> than gun laws." They note that the "most effective programs combined both punitive
>>> and supportive strategies to effectively reduce gun violence.. The assessment of
>>> [gun violence prevention programs] provides clear guidance concerning which
>>> approaches are most likely to result in enhanced public safety - an outcome that
>>> should be attractive to policy makers regardless of their ideological persuasion."
> 
>> You moved goal posts to crime only, and even then noted your hand-picked
>> study showed SOME level of effectiveness...
> 
> Aren't we talking about injuries occurring during violent crimes? Or are we talking
> about the Supreme Court affirming an individual right to keep and bear arms?
> 
>> This does not change the fact that evidence shows laws CAN reduce harm
>> tied to guns.
> 
> No, they can't
> 
> Law enforcement can, and probation strategies most of all.
> 
>>>> ...  Then there is this:
>>>> -----
>>>> Immediately upon assuming chairmanship of the Subcommittee on the
>>>> Constitution, I sponsored the report which follows as an effort to
>>>> study, rather than ignore, the history of the controversy over the
>>>> right to keep and bear arms
>>>> -----
> 
>>>> But this is by someone who backed the RESTRICTION of research into how to reduce
>>>> the impact of guns on death and harm. It is not an honest statement at all.
> 
>>> Yours sure isn't, assuming you're referring to the Dickey amendment which, as all
>>> sentient lifeforms know, only forbids the CDC from promoting or advocating for
>>> more gun control laws.
> 
>> This has been covered in the past: it was an active effort to stop research (and it
>> worked).
> 
> It was an effort to stop the CDC from promoting and advocating gun control. Period.
> 
>>>> And the bias is extreme:
> 
>>> Oh, the irony!
> 
>>>> -----
>>>> In the interest of fairness and the presentation of a complete picture,
>>>> we also invited groups which were likely to oppose this recognition
>>>> of freedoms to submit their views.
>>>> -----
> 
>>>> He is claiming that those who understand the rights in different ways
>>>> are opposes to rights. This is a direct lie on his part. The he speaks
>>>> of allowing the NRA, a group that benefits from gun violence,...
> 
>>> As does the Brady Bunch.
> 
>> What? How about Gilligan's Island?
> 
> How about Everytown for Gun Safety?
> 
>>>> ... to have a say. The NRA! They are not a government organization
>>>> nor do they have ANY authority on the meaning of the second
>>>> amendment. They are not an impartial voice.
> 
>>> A pity that you read no further.
> 
>> A direct lie on your part.
> 
> Then why did you fail to mention National Council for a Responsible Firearms Policy
> and National Coalition to Ban Handguns?
> 
>>> You might have seen that they also included --
> 
>>> "Does the Second Amendment mean what it says?, by David J. Steinberg,
>>> executive director, National Council for a Responsible Firearms policy.
> 
>>> "National Coalition to ban handguns, statement on the Second Amendment, by Michael
>>> K. Beard, executive director, and Samuel S. Fields, legal affairs coordinator,
>>> National Coalition to Ban Handguns."
> 
>>> Looks like Orrin Hatch was actually a lot more impartial than you!
> 
>> As shown, he was not at all impartial.
> 
> As shown, you're a liar.
> 
>>>> On and on... it is clearly a very biased report, right from the start.
> 
>>> Because you didn't like it.
> 
>> My like or dislike of is not relevant.
> 
> My point exactly.
> 
>>>> Moving on from Hatch's very clearly biased comments we get to Dennis
>>>> DeConcini, who pulls quotes in from out of context and tries to push
>>>> the AZ constitution as applying to the US as a whole....
> 
>>> Look, if you're going to think with your ovaries instead of your brains,
> 
>> Misogynistic insults serve only to show your bigotry.
> 
>>> don't be surprised if you come off looking like a hysterical ninny. DeConcini made
>>> no such assertion. Do you even know what "for example" means?
> 
>> State law is not an example of federal and does not show the meaning of the Bill of
>> Rights.
> 
> He never claimed it does. He used the Arizona constitution to illustrate "[t]he right
> to bear arms is a tradition with deep roots in American society."
> 
>>>> ... To his credit, though, he does speak of how things have changed over
>>>> time:
>>>>   -----
>>>> All Supreme Court decisions on the second amendment's application to
>>>> the States came in the last century, when constitutional law was far
>>>> different than it is today.
>>>> -----
> 
>>> That's true. The fourteenth amendment expanded the Bill of Rights to the states.
> 
>> And the meaning of the second amendment was far different, too.
> 
> Nope. Hasn't changed a bit.
> 
> 


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:36 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:32 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:03 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:26 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:01 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:08 -0500
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:40 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:35 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:15 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:53 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:09 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:51 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:12 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 04:54 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:00 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 05:06 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:09 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:54 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                The Supreme Court got it wrong. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:51 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 11:59 -0400
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:43 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:25 -0400
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:28 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 19:45 -0400
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:08 -0600
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 23:24 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:12 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:15 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:37 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:48 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:00 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:32 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 21:38 -0400
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:49 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:49 +0000
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:45 -0700
                Permission to breath ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 19:10 -0700
                Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:13 -0700
                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:10 -0700
                Re: Permission to breath ? Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-06-02 20:36 -0700
                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:53 -0700
                Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 23:33 -0400
                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:42 -0700
                Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:57 -0400
                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:08 -0700
                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                Clarity. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-03 08:52 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:46 +0000
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:53 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 22:59 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 23:19 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 09:10 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:31 -0400
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:12 +0000
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:26 -0400
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:37 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:10 -0400
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:54 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 22:19 -0500
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:58 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 00:24 -0400
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 05:43 +0000
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 07:17 +0000
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:21 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 16:07 +0000
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:30 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 01:32 +0000
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:34 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:50 -0700
                "Natural Rights" aren't always wonderful. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 19:02 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:49 -0700
                Depressed Losers, slaughtering consert goers, is "natural" ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:21 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 02:18 -0400
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:25 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:38 -0400
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:16 -0400
                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:46 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:53 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-02 01:20 -0400
                Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:27 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:14 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:38 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:57 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:29 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:57 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:25 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:53 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:29 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:09 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 21:02 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:32 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:59 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:02 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:03 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:12 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:38 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:53 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:04 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:16 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:26 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:33 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:38 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:44 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:14 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 13:17 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:21 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:40 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:47 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:57 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:00 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:05 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:13 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:40 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:44 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:39 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:37 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:54 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:01 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:02 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:13 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:39 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:54 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:05 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:41 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:48 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:07 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:14 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:17 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:21 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-03 20:11 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:20 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:43 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:45 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:40 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 12:03 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:04 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 12:05 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 00:47 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:11 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:13 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:21 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 20:37 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:30 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:11 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 17:59 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 15:05 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:10 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:27 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:44 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:42 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:12 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:27 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:47 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-04 23:47 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:51 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:19 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:06 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 09:37 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:51 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:18 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:50 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:09 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:32 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:35 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:48 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 07:48 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:27 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:30 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 08:55 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:32 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:33 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:34 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:54 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:51 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:45 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:15 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:41 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:11 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:17 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:50 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:23 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:01 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:32 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:06 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 05:15 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:49 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 07:22 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:11 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:30 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:54 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:06 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:42 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:50 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:07 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:25 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:37 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:51 -0400
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:00 -0500
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 06:26 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:28 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:12 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:27 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:07 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:44 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:19 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:23 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 20:31 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 22:09 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 21:14 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 23:48 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:47 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:44 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:10 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:19 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 23:53 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:57 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:22 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:30 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ðŸķįŽ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-04 02:48 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:58 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:19 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 20:56 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:26 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:45 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:30 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 01:30 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:00 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:45 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:39 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:48 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:15 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 15:20 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:55 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:34 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:52 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 22:57 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:09 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:52 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 20:14 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:29 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:20 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:16 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 06:25 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:30 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:32 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:34 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:07 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:27 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 17:07 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 16:18 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 16:46 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 17:04 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:13 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 20:16 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:41 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 02:29 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:50 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:41 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 10:38 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 10:01 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 12:55 -0500
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 07:58 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:11 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 11:56 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-06-05 14:58 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 12:17 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:02 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:45 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 14:51 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:56 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:02 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:47 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:51 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-05 22:44 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:04 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:50 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:05 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:11 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:20 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:42 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:46 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:46 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:15 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:45 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:13 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:36 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:07 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:01 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:55 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:08 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:29 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:02 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:07 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:44 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:52 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-09 02:13 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 23:20 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 06:22 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:16 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 08:28 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:50 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 09:23 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:51 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 10:29 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 20:16 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 21:08 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 14:33 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 14:54 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 14:56 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:25 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:04 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:02 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 13:42 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:32 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 16:24 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:34 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 17:31 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 23:47 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:57 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:59 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:53 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:22 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:32 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:07 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:22 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:31 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                Truth Avoidance. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:11 -0700
                Re: Truth Avoidance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:33 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 10:09 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:20 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:31 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 21:12 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:31 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 18:41 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 15:46 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:43 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:50 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 17:08 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 17:11 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:32 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:55 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:53 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 00:16 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 02:01 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:03 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:20 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:06 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:33 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700

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