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Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars.

From jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Newsgroups sci.space.policy, sci.physics, rec.arts.sf.science, sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars.
Date 2017-07-17 21:53 +0000
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In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

>>> Not really - for example, if we're not at the limits of layer hardening time,
>>> then we can use multiple print heads, multiplying the print rate.
>>> I thought that was apparent, apparently I needed to explain it.
>>
>> But we are at those limits as well as how fast we can lay down a layer
>> without slopping it around.
>>
>> Did you think the issue is how fast a stepper motor goes or how fast you
>> can squeeze something out of a nozzle?
> 
> First of all, there are other technologies, the second of the new printers I 
> posted uses one of them.

All the technologies squirt out something that has liquid properties and
then is hardened somehow, all of them.

There are no Star Trek replicators where a complete object forms out of
thin air.

> Second, even something as simple as adding more print heads would multiply the 
> printing speed, as I've explained twice now.

What part of we are already at the limit of deposition rate is it you can not
grasp?

>>>>> "The BAAM was used to manufacture the first (almost) fully 3D printed car, the
>>>>> Strati, for together with Local Motors. With a deposition rate of up to 38 lbs
>>>>> of material per hour, it is possibly the fastest machine currently on the market."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Strati is little more than a $30,000 golf cart and the finish is an
>>>> abomination.
>>>
>>> Not the point, remember the whole "mature technology" thing?
>>> If we can do that *now*, imagine what we'll be able to do in 30 years time.
>>
>> Yes, it is the whole point.
>>
>> They get speed by using thick layers as there is no other way to do it. This
>> results in a crap finish.
> 
> Simply not true, see my points above.

Yes, it is true. Look at the pictures of the thing and read the companies
own press releases.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 07:04 +0100
  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 17:48 +0000
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 06:50 +0100
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-13 17:29 +0000
        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 05:51 +0100
          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 05:11 +0000
            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 06:36 +0100
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-15 00:27 -0600
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 08:52 -0400
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 06:40 +0100
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-16 16:02 -0400
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 06:02 +0100
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-17 20:31 -0400
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-18 06:32 +0100
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-18 21:10 -0400
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                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-19 20:17 -0400
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                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 06:23 +0100
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 03:35 -0700
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                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-20 16:24 -0400
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          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-15 17:39 +0000
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          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:52 -0400
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