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Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion
Date 2016-04-21 20:52 +1000
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On 21/04/2016 4:00 PM, benj wrote:
> On 04/21/2016 01:17 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 21/04/2016 2:10 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 04/20/2016 10:27 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 21/04/2016 4:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20/04/2016 7:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and that's that!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> any questions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are you on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is time an illusion, Mrs. Else?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An illusion is perceptual process that causes something to have an
>>>> appearance that differs significantly from its reality.
>>>>
>>>> So it is difficult to attach any real meaning to your question.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> It's difficult to attach any meaning to things Starfaker posts, but
>>> nevertheless the question is a valid one.
>>>
>>> Can you imagine a situation where time is an Illusion? What does that
>>> mean. Well, it would mean that in your PERCEPTION events would progress
>>> and develop to your perception from the past to the present to the
>>> future. But since it's an illusion, it would mean that in truth nothing
>>> is changing at all and all events and seeming actions are perpetually
>>> fixed and immutable.
>>
>> Just because one doesn't see the entirety of something doesn't mean it's
>> an illusion. At the moment, I can only see the front side of my monitor,
>> and part of its supporting base. There's no illusion there either.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> Are you sure the back side of your monitor doesn't disappear if you
> aren't looking at it?

I use a model of reality in which the back of the monitor continues to 
exist. So far, the model hasn't let me down.

>
> If you watch a movie on your monitor you only see the "now" of what
> appears to you as the "present" in the story. But in fact the entire
> story that takes 2 hours for you to watch unfold is already in existence
> in a file on your disk. So in essence the "time" that exists while you
> "experience" the action is an illusion.

It's registered by a clock.

> It's all ONE time as Rolf or
> someone here pointed out some time ago. It's the difference between
> parallel and series.

I think you're redefining the word, which isn't helpful.

Sylvia.

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Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 14:52 -0700
  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-19 16:57 -0500
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 15:38 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-19 17:44 -0500
  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 19:20 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 14:39 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 23:56 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-22 12:09 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 15:58 -0700
  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-20 19:31 +1000
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 11:48 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 12:27 +1000
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:10 -0400
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:26 -0700
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:44 -0400
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 23:11 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 23:47 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-22 11:57 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 22:55 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-25 23:29 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 11:58 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 15:17 +1000
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 22:56 -0700
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 02:00 -0400
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 20:52 +1000
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 11:23 -0400
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-23 13:25 +1000
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-23 01:14 -0400
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-23 15:32 +1000
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-23 02:19 -0400
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 03:43 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 04:11 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 04:25 -0700
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 15:52 -0700
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 22:35 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-25 23:36 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 11:53 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 14:49 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-27 00:07 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 00:54 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-28 11:08 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:28 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:45 -0400
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 23:18 -0700
  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 11:46 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion platopes <mitchperkins7@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 19:58 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:31 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:47 -0400
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  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 22:11 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 00:27 -0700
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