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Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen

From 7 <7@enemygadgets.com>
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Subject Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen
Date 2016-04-10 13:37 +0000
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Poutnik wrote:


>>> New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen
>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160408132647.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>> Scientists create a molybdenum-based material that could be a
>>>> low-cost alternative to platinum for splitting water to make hydrogen
>>>> fuel.
>> 
>> Hydrogen fuel has 20x less energy density than gasoline.
>> It requires a fuel tank 20x bigger to go the same distance.
>> 
>> And 20x many lorries to carry the fuel to the gas station.
>> 
> 
> There is nowhere written
> the hydrogen gas to be used the way you have supposed.
> 
> More and more electricity will be produced
> via cheap solar panels with peak production.
> 
> Therefore there is need to develop energy storage that
> 
> - can absorb large amount of energy
> - is cheap and simple
> - can be used for long term storage
> 
> One of ways is hydrogen and derived products like methane.
> Methane is already used to power cars as CNG / LNG.
> 
> See also
> http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=9991


Well I went to a lecture by the original US guy pushing this tech
and his visions are not electric.

His ideas were about safety and how it is all improved
over the ages to transport the stuff safely.

If hydrogen is being used as a battery, that doesn't bode
well either. The current ideas all go around improving cheaper
flow batteries. Hydrogen has no viable future
because its infinitely more dangerous to handle the stuff.

Also there are more cheaper solid state batteries coming
on to the market. How long before you put in a sodium
battery behind each solar panel is an interesting question.

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New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:58 -0500
  Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-10 12:04 +0000
    Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 13:54 +0200
      Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-10 13:37 +0000
        Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:48 +0200
          Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-10 14:15 +0000
            Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 16:23 +0200
              Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-10 18:23 +0000
                Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:56 +0200
                Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-10 19:19 +0000
                Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 21:39 +0200
                Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-10 20:10 +0000
                Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 22:42 +0200
                Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-11 22:19 +0000
        Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 16:21 +0200
          Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-10 20:12 +0000
            Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 22:50 +0200
    Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 14:46 +0200
    Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-10 13:39 -0700
      Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 21:03 +0000
      Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 16:26 -0500
        Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-04-10 18:08 -0400
          Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 17:15 -0500
        Re: New microwave synthesis technique produces more-affordable hydrogen Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-10 15:12 -0700

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