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Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim

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From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
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Subject Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim
Date Sun, 24 Jan 2016 15:06:26 +1100
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On 24/01/2016 2:20 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>> On 23/01/2016 1:20 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>>>> On 23/01/2016 5:46 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>>>>> Life on other planets would likely be brief and become extinct
>>>>>> very quickly, say astrobiologists from The Austroyan National
>>>>>> University (ANU).
>>>>> ----------
>>>>> A fairly stupid supposition.
>>>>> First they don't define 'brief'. Life on earth has existed for a
>>>>> brief period too...a few billion years. It has survived and even
>>>>> flourished in the face of unrelenting extinction level events.
>>>>> Be it asteroids, massive seismic activity, lava flows over 25% of the
>>>>> earth's surface and the almost total covering of the earth in ice,
>>>>> life persists, adapts and evolves.
>>>> The anthropic principle applies. The fact that life survived may have
>>>> been an extraordinary fluke. We have no way of knowing.
>>>> Sylvia.
>>> Which means we also don't know if a universe filled with life is normal.
>> No. The only thing we know about life's probability is that it's
>> possible. The Earth might be the only place in the observable universe
>> where there's life at all. Or the universe could be teeming with life.
>> Finding life elsewhere - such as on Europa - would change that,
>> particularly if it's clearly a different kind of life (nothing
>> resembling DNA for example).
>> As for intelligent life - our appearance on Earth was the result of a
>> sequence of freak events, and the final push to our current level of
>> intelligence arose from a drought in Africa that nearly wiped us out,
>> and could easily have actually done so. So even if life turns out to be
>> common, it could still be that intelligent life is very rare indeed.
>> Sylvia.
>
>
> Well this may be part of the problem right here.
> There are many forms of intelligent life on earth.
> To some extent even single-celled creatures exhibit a form on
> intellect.
> Even simple artefacts can apparently exhibit intelligent
> behvaiour if the glossy ads are to be beleived.

It's not helpful to seek to redefine words. We have a general sense of 
what we mean by intelligent life, and it doesn't include any of the 
single celled life on Earth.

Sylvia.

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          Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-24 01:43 +0000
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