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Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim
Date 2016-01-24 12:39 +1100
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On 23/01/2016 1:20 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>> On 23/01/2016 5:46 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>>
>>>> Life on other planets would likely be brief and become extinct
>>>> very quickly, say astrobiologists from The Australian National
>>>> University (ANU).
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> A fairly stupid supposition.
>>>
>>> First they don't define 'brief'. Life on earth has existed for a
>>> brief period too...a few billion years. It has survived and even
>>> flourished in the face of unrelenting extinction level events.
>>>
>>> Be it asteroids, massive seismic activity, lava flows over 25% of the
>>> earth's surface and the almost total covering of the earth in ice,
>>> life persists, adapts and evolves.
>>>
>>
>> The anthropic principle applies. The fact that life survived may have
>> been an extraordinary fluke. We have no way of knowing.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> Which means we also don't know if a universe filled with life is normal.
>
>

No. The only thing we know about life's probability is that it's 
possible. The Earth might be the only place in the observable universe 
where there's life at all. Or the universe could be teeming with life.

Finding life elsewhere - such as on Europa - would change that, 
particularly if it's clearly a different kind of life (nothing 
resembling DNA for example).

As for intelligent life - our appearance on Earth was the result of a 
sequence of freak events, and the final push to our current level of 
intelligence arose from a drought in Africa that nearly wiped us out, 
and could easily have actually done so. So even if life turns out to be 
common, it could still be that intelligent life is very rare indeed.

Sylvia.

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The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 11:32 -0600
  Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim Lawrence Senreich <lawest@galaxyredeems.org> - 2016-01-22 17:59 +0000
    Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-22 12:43 -0600
  The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 10:46 -0800
    Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-23 12:48 +1100
      Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-23 02:20 +0000
        Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-24 12:39 +1100
          Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-24 02:12 +0000
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              Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim GogoJF <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-23 20:00 -0800
            Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-24 15:06 +1100
              Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-01-24 05:18 +0000
          Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 23:00 -0800
          Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 23:00 -0800
            Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 02:19 -0500
          Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 12:11 -0800
            Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-01-24 12:29 -0800
    Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 02:17 -0500
    Re: Is is alive ? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 10:33 -0500
    Re: Is is alive ? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-24 12:41 +1100
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  Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-22 18:53 +0000
    Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 10:22 -0600
      Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-23 19:21 +0000
        Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-24 12:46 +1100
          Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-24 02:17 +0000
            Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-24 15:04 +1100
              Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-24 06:16 +0000
          Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 02:13 -0500
            Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2016-01-25 06:33 -0500
              Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 10:53 -0600
  Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 12:11 -0800
    Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-22 20:26 +0000
    Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 16:13 -0800
      Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-01-22 17:15 -0800
      Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-23 02:21 +0000
        Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 15:40 -0800
          Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-24 01:43 +0000
      Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-24 15:07 +1100
    Re: The aliens are silent because they're dead Jim benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 02:30 -0500
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