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Re: Rocky's latest brain fart

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups alt.conspiracy, sci.physics
Subject Re: Rocky's latest brain fart
Date 2015-09-17 17:25 +0200
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Am 17.09.2015 08:26, schrieb Thomas Heger:
..
>
> But possibly you miss a calculation about gravity...
>
> Well, maybe I should do that.
>
> Gravity is actually easy. Acceleration is 'a' and the value for Earth
> gravity at ground level
>
> a_Earth_gravity = 9.81 m/s²
>
> (This acceleration is also called '1 g'.)
>
>
> A (non-moving) mass of 1kg applies a force of 9.81 N upon its support.
>
>
> The upper level of WTC 1 had maybe 40 floors above the impact zone,
> hence a force of roughly 10% of the buildings mass of 500,000 was
> pushing downwards.


This was an obvious error. I wanted to say, that there were 40 m above 
the impact zone, not 40 floors.

But this number seem s a little too small and the are had been more 
meters of the upper floors. (will try to find out the correct numbers).


> that is about 440,500,000 N pushing on the remains of the steel still
> present in these floors.
>
> Sound like a lot. But think about all the steel and concrete, upon what
> this force was distributed.
>
> The exact dimensions I don't know. But lets assume, that about 5% of a
> floor-level was actually build from steel.

5% is too much. But - unfortunately - I don't have the correct numbers. 
Maybe this area ( you would get, that is steel only, if you make an 
imaginary cut through the building) is less then 5% of the entire floor 
area.

Sorry, but I don't know this figure. 5% was a rough guess.

In any case, this is only a demonstration about how such a calculation 
could be made, not a proper calculation.

This is an own profession (calculation of the steel frames for 
skyscrapers). But certainly there are a few of these professionals, who 
could actually make such a calculation.

In any case: the steel frame of the WTC-towers seemed to be more than 
sufficient to keep the buildings upright.


TH

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Re: AE911 Truth & Firefighters for 911 Truth Demonstrate at NY Times (9-11-15) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-16 17:40 -0500
  Re: Rocky's latest brain fart jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-16 22:56 +0000
    Re: Rocky's latest brain fart Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-17 05:54 +0200
      Re: Rocky's latest brain fart Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 14:24 +1000
        Re: Rocky's latest brain fart Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-17 06:50 +0200
          Re: Rocky's latest brain fart Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 15:26 +1000
            Re: Rocky's latest brain fart Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-17 08:26 +0200
              Re: Rocky's latest brain fart Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-17 17:25 +0200
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            Re: Rocky's latest brain fart "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-17 13:30 -0500
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                Re: Rocky's latest brain fart Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-18 23:03 +0200
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                Re: Rocky's latest brain fart Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-19 03:19 +0200
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                Re: Rocky's latest brain fart Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-24 22:54 +0200
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                Re: AE911 Truth & Firefighters for 911 Truth Demonstrate at NY Times (9-11-15) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-26 08:59 +0200
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