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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.space.policy, sci.physics, sci.astro, rec.arts.sf.science |
| Subject | Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin |
| Date | 2016-04-12 18:25 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <95rvtc-3gf.ln1@mail.specsol.com> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 4 groups.
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.space.policy Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're reasonable if they work. SpaceX is trying to avoid adding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other engines to the Falcon 9 first stage. The stage could hover >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and land, for example, if it added Super Draco engines to the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage. But, they require different fuel and oxidizer than the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage carries. This would mean adding completely different tanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plumbing, and etc. for those engines. Also, if Super Dracos were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used, it would be advantageous to deplete the kerosene and then vent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any remaining LOX in the tanks before landing. So, any "leftover" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuel and oxidizer would be "wasted". In my book, this would not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a good trade to make. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If one wanted to give the Falcon 9 first stage the ability to hover, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wouldn't the most straightforward way to do that be create a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>deeply-throttled Merlin? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Straightforward, perhaps, but it's a very big design change so you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start with having to requalify as if it's a whole new engine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yet you were just saying in another thread space stuff doesn't have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bureaucrat bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cite? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sure, it was by someone called Fred J. McCall talking about nuclear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reactors on Mars being cheap for lack of bureaucrat bullshit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, you REALLY don't comprehend English, do you? Either that or >>>>>>>>>>>>> you're just so intellectually dishonest everything sounds different to >>>>>>>>>>>>> you. Note that even if you interpret that one instance the way you do >>>>>>>>>>>>> (which is twisted) it doesn't say what you claim I've said. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop making up lies, Chimp. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Stop taking mind altering drugs, space cadet. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Stop begging to suck my dick, Chimp. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Sounds like someone would really like being in an all male isolated >>>>>>>>>>environment. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, but it doesn't matter how much you beg. You're not my type. I >>>>>>>>> prefer them female, smart, cute, and human. You miss on all four. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Yet you seem to know nothing about them such as they have been putting >>>>>>>>diapers on their babies since antiquity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's called 'cloth', not 'diapers', you stupid twat. >>>>>> >>>>>>Cloth is raw stock. >>>>>> >>>>>>Diapers, shirts, pants, sheets, etc. are finished goods, you stupid twat. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And BOTH cloth and finished goods were IMPORTED to the Colonies, you >>>>> dumb cunt. >>>>> >>>> >>>>So what, space cadet? >>>> >>> >>> So your claims in this regard, like so many of your claims, are >>> chimpshit, chimpshit. >>> >>>> >>>>Both cloth and finished goods are imported to the US from Sri Lanka. >>>> >>> >>> Yeah, they are, so we still don't qualify as a successful colony by >>> your definitions because we can't cloth ourselves without imports. >>> >>>> >>>>Does that mean you can not survive in the US without imports from >>>>Sri Lanka, space cadet? >>>> >>> >>> There's more of that chimpshit wriggling between "survive" and "live >>> in a rich suburb"... >>> >> >>Nope, I've never deviated from the facts that it is trivial to survive >>on the Earth just about anywhere and impossible to survive on Mars without >>21st century technology, and a lot of it. >> > > And you've never explained all those failed colonies and dead people. Sure I have but they have nothing to do with surviving on Mars. -- Jim Pennino
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Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-05 21:49 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-06 21:30 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:07 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 12:45 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-04-08 16:41 +0100
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-08 18:27 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> - 2016-04-07 17:43 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 12:56 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-08 18:26 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-10 08:40 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-11 06:11 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-04-11 06:37 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 23:13 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 22:01 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:27 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 08:08 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 19:03 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:20 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 21:17 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 20:22 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 06:11 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:43 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 17:09 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 17:39 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 19:13 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:59 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 06:10 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:12 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 18:25 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:36 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 23:19 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 22:23 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 18:18 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 13:06 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 20:44 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 19:24 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 04:29 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-14 01:06 -0600
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 18:22 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 00:56 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 18:28 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 14:42 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 22:35 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 17:22 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 00:47 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 19:30 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 21:45 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 16:09 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 00:02 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 02:59 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 17:03 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 11:28 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 19:17 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 12:52 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 20:50 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 19:40 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-17 05:24 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 23:59 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 12:42 -0700
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