Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists.

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Date	2017-06-03 19:35 -0700
From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.atheism
Subject	Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists.
References	<a4990056-a778-40d2-94e2-f38ae1c0d008@googlegroups.com> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.3--1.25pm.Seattle.2017>

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Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
> 
> Abhinav Lal wrote:
> > According to Eternalisim, all moments in time exist.
> > According to Presentism, only the present exists.
> >
> > I believe in Presentism, because I believe in free will,
> > and that the universe is non deterministic.
> > What do you believe in?
> 
> Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists.
> 
> Still:
> 
>   The ( four dimensional ) timescape is static, immutable;
>   the future is just as fixed as the past;
>   (semi)randomness is (semi)ignorance, nothing more.
> 
>   Humanity is just another way to consume exergy, like the stars.
> 
>   And there are many paths to follow; Science _Fiction is very profitable.
>   We get mad when our paths cross, like road rage,
>   but there's nothing anyone can do about it, nature programmed us.


Where, over here or over there?

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Time: Eternalisim and Presentism alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-06-02 15:59 -0700
  Re: Time: Eternalisim and Presentism Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 07:52 +0200
    Re: Time: Eternalisim and Presentism Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 09:30 +0200
  Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-03 19:35 -0700
    Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-05 07:14 -0500
      Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists. Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-06-05 12:02 -0400
      Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-05 11:20 -0700
        Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-05 13:23 -0500
          Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-05 14:16 -0700
            Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-06-05 19:05 -0400
              Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-06 07:00 -0500
                Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-06-06 20:26 -0400
          Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-06-05 23:21 +0000
            Re: Only "the present" ( a sea of "here and now" events ) exists. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-06 06:57 -0500
  Re: Time: Eternalisim and Presentism Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 06:34 +0200
  Re: Time: Eternalisim and Presentism Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-06-05 14:42 -0700

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