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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff |
| Date | 2017-02-13 09:46 -0800 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <58A1F0FC.4749@ix.netcom.com> (permalink) |
| References | <o7r866$9mo$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
Well, you are just doing what you always have done and the rest of the 'scientific community' does, Cut-and-Paste Science. http://www.northcountryradio.com/Articles/Construction%20of%20AM88%20Antenna.htm I suspect most homework turned in class today is Cut-and-Paste Science. Then they graduate with Cut-and-Paste Science Thinking. and you're part of the 100%... Serg Io wrote: > > Is sci.physics now 100 % clutter ? > > any real physics at all being posted ? > > At present, FCC restrictions require the use of an antenna with Part 15 > transmitters to be either 10 feet or less, or limit field strength to > 2400 / f in kHz. This applies in the the top of the AM broadcast band > and certain other frequencies. Consult current FCC rules. However, as > long as you are using 100 milliwatts and a 10 foot antenna, there is no > specific limit on range. Typical antenna efficiencies at 1.6 MHz are > about 0.5 to 1 percent. This limits effective radiated power to 1 > milliwatt or less. This sounds discouraging, but it is not really bad. > If an antenna radiating 1 milliwatt is placed at the center of a sphere > of 1 mile in diameter, all this power is still present at the surface, > less any losses inside the sphere (very small in most cases can be > considered zero as in free space). The following is a mathematical > demonstration of this but you can skip it and take our word for it > should you not care for the details. > > The surface area of a 1 km (1000 meters) radius sphere is 4 x pi x r > squared, where pi = 3.14159 and r squared = 1,000,000 > > Surface Area = 12.56 x 10 exp 6 (12.56 million square meters) > > Dividing 1 milliwatt (1/1000 of a watt) by this figure, we get the power > per square meter as (79 x 10 exp -12 watts) > > The signal in volts per meter can be calculated by realizing that free > space has an impedance of 377 ohms > > The signal strength in volts/meter is equal to the square root of the > power/sq meter x the impedance in ohms > > multiplying power/sq meter by 377 ohms and taking the square root we get > 172.5 microvolts/meter at 1 kM (1000 meters or 0.62 miles) > > At 1 mile this would be 107.15 microvolts/meter (uv/meter or uv/m) > > Now, 107 uV/meter is a fairly good signal level. As signal levels of 50 > uV/m are still useable a range of over 2 miles should be obtained with a > properly tuned antenna and 100 milliwatts. A decent AM receiver with a > ferrite loop antenna can easily pick this up. A good AM receiver with a > sensitivity of 10 uV per meter might hear this signal at several miles. > However, ambient noise and interference will be the limiting factor. > Using similar antennas (8 foot whip with loading coil), Amateur radio > operators have operated transmitters from automobiles on the nearby (in > frequency) 160 meter ham band (1800-2000 kHz) and with 10 watts, two way > contacts of 25 to 50 miles are possible. This would correspond to 2.5 to > 5 miles range with 100 milliwatts. Typical AM receivers equipped with > the usual ferrite rod or loop antennas have sensitivities ranging from 5 > uV/meter for excellent receivers with large loop antennas, to as poor as > 2000 uV/meter for cheap small AM portable sets. 50 to 300uV / meter is > typical for average AM BC receivers. This depends on antenna size, > receiver gain, and bandwidth. Note that this figure includes the loop > antenna and is not the same as that would be measured at the 50 to 600 > ohm input terminals of the receiver (if so equipped). In this case, in > order to get usable radiation, the antenna must take as much power from > the transmitter as possible and radiate it with maximum efficiency. This > requires a reasonable ground system and an antenna that is properly > matched to the transmitter. A 10 foot vertical or whip antenna has an > impedance of about 3000 ohms capacitive reactance in series with about > 0.1 ohm radiation resistance. The trick is to get as much current > flowing in this 0.1 ohm resistance as possible. For 1 milliwatt radiated > power this would be 100 milliamperes (0.1 ampere). To force this much > current through the impedance of the antenna, an RF level of 300 volts > is needed. This can be done by using a series inductance to cancel out > the capacitive reactance of the antenna. A simple indoor 3 foot whip > plugged into the transmitter, with no matching network, would look like > about 0.007 ohm in series with 8000 ohms capacitive reactance. About > 3000 volts of RF signal would be needed to have this antenna radiate 1 > milliwatt. Since 100 milliwatts. A 100 milliwatt transmitter would > supply about 2.3 volts of RF into 50 ohms. Open circuit or the level > delivered into this antenna would be around 4.5 volts. The radiated > power would be around 2 nanowatts. This would produce a very weak signal > barely detectable at more than a few feet from the transmitter. > > These high RF voltages appear on the antenna as a result of using a > loading coil to get a series resonant circuit together with the self > capacitance of the antenna. This capacitance depends on the antenna > dimensions and will be around 30 pf for a 10 foot vertical, depending on > its configuration and diameter. This capacitance can be calculated from > electromagnetic theory or inferred from an antenna analysis program such > as ELNEC. For frequencies in the 1.6 MHz region, around 350 to 400 uHy > will be needed. At 530 kHz around 3000 uHy will be needed. > > This inductance can be reduced by using a "capacity hat" on the top of > the antenna. This is made up of 4 or 6 lengths of wire (12 inches) > arranged horizontally like the spokes of a wheel, with one end connected > to the top of the antenna (see fig). The calculated capacitance of this > short vertical antenna is 36.3 pF and is fairly constant over the entire > AM broadcast band. This allows a coil of 220 to 2400 microhenries to > make this antenna resonant from 1700 to 530 kHz. The exact inductance > will be affected by antenna location, height above ground, length of > ground lead and size of ground plane, proximity to other objects, and > other environmental factors. Therefore it is best to start off with a > coil of somewhat higher inductance than actually needed, and adjust the > number of turns experimentally. Best radiation efficiency is at the > higher frequencies.
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Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 19:31 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-13 09:46 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 07:32 -0800
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Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-13 22:07 +0000
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-13 18:45 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-02-14 12:49 +0000
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Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 02:31 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff Serg Io <invliad@invalid.com> - 2017-02-14 07:57 -0600
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 07:28 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 05:23 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff Serg Io <invliad@invalid.com> - 2017-02-14 08:22 -0600
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 07:18 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff Serg Io <invliad@invalid.com> - 2017-02-14 09:49 -0600
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 08:04 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 07:29 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 07:41 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff edprochak@gmail.com - 2017-02-14 11:48 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 09:03 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 18:52 -0500
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 21:14 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 07:36 -0800
Re: Is sci.physics now 100 % scrap ? and AM transmitter antenna stuff noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 13:26 -0800
Michael Moroney can't/won't read me properly. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2017-02-14 18:18 -0800
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